Armoured suits are 'too goofy' say US troops

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American troops have complained that a new armoured body suit designed to be worn in Iraq makes them look "goofy".

The water-cooled "alien spacesuits" are being handed out to turret gunners in their notoriously vulnerable Humvee vehicles.

The protective suit, based on those worn by bomb disposal officers, was intended to cut spiralling casualties for one of the most dangerous jobs in modern warfare.

But some troops have complained that the armour and headgear is inelegant. Others say the water-cooling system, designed for the soaring temperatures of an Iraqi summer, regularly breaks down.

Nonetheless, the suits being tested in combat by US military police units in northern Iraq have produced good results.

Capt Larry Bergeron told the military newspaper Stars and Stripes that the armour was credited with saving the lives of three men sprayed with shrapnel from roadside bombs.

"One soldier's visor stopped a piece of shrapnel that hit dead centre," he said. "If he had not had that suit on, the effects could have been catastrophic."

Gunners on Humvees have high casualty rates. While newly-installed armour protects those inside, the gunner stands with the upper half of his body exposed, making him far more vulnerable to roadside bombs and gunfire. Others have been crushed as vehicles overturn.

But Specialist Michael Floyd, 19, said: "I am not a big fan of this thing. It is really hot and hard to move around in. I do feel safer, but only in an explosion. I would not feel safer in a rollover or in small-arms fire."

Critics say the heavy suits also restrict movement during combat.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...09.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/05/09/ixnewsnew.html
 
-Cp said:
American troops have complained that a new armoured body suit designed to be worn in Iraq makes them look "goofy".

The water-cooled "alien spacesuits" are being handed out to turret gunners in their notoriously vulnerable Humvee vehicles.

The protective suit, based on those worn by bomb disposal officers, was intended to cut spiralling casualties for one of the most dangerous jobs in modern warfare.

But some troops have complained that the armour and headgear is inelegant. Others say the water-cooling system, designed for the soaring temperatures of an Iraqi summer, regularly breaks down.

Nonetheless, the suits being tested in combat by US military police units in northern Iraq have produced good results.

Capt Larry Bergeron told the military newspaper Stars and Stripes that the armour was credited with saving the lives of three men sprayed with shrapnel from roadside bombs.

"One soldier's visor stopped a piece of shrapnel that hit dead centre," he said. "If he had not had that suit on, the effects could have been catastrophic."

Gunners on Humvees have high casualty rates. While newly-installed armour protects those inside, the gunner stands with the upper half of his body exposed, making him far more vulnerable to roadside bombs and gunfire. Others have been crushed as vehicles overturn.

But Specialist Michael Floyd, 19, said: "I am not a big fan of this thing. It is really hot and hard to move around in. I do feel safer, but only in an explosion. I would not feel safer in a rollover or in small-arms fire."

Critics say the heavy suits also restrict movement during combat.

wus09.jpg


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...09.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/05/09/ixnewsnew.html

Well it does look a bit 'goofy', sorta like he'd bounce if knocked down; but if movement can be done and it saves lives, well 'stupid is as stupid does...'
 
Kathianne said:
Well it does look a bit 'goofy', sorta like he'd bounce if knocked down; but if movement can be done and it saves lives, well 'stupid is as stupid does...'
There is no way a soldier can fight effectively in that outfit. Restricted movement and visibility coupled with the "tether" to the environmental support unit makes it a non starter. It might be great for dismantling bombs but it sure as hell does not lend itself to actually FIGHTING effectively. As always, there is a trade off between armor and maneuverability.
 
CSM said:
There is no way a soldier can fight effectively in that outfit. Restricted movement and visibility coupled with the "tether" to the environmental support unit makes it a non starter. It might be great for dismantling bombs but it sure as hell does not lend itself to actually FIGHTING effectively. As always, there is a trade off between armor and maneuverability.

Yeah, I can't say I'd want to engage in a firefight wearing that get-up. Like as not, when you "hit the dirt," you'd hear a loud pop! :laugh:
 
GunnyL said:
Yeah, I can't say I'd want to engage in a firefight wearing that get-up. Like as not, when you "hit the dirt," you'd hear a loud pop! :laugh:

I'm with the Gunny and the CSM. This thing needs to go back to the drawing board. It gets hot as hell in that suit when the cooling system goes out. The face shield might be effective, but I'd rather have an OTV and be able to shoot back.
 

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