Armed Guards???

[MikeK]

What is the difference between a National Guardsman and a Green Beret?

What is the difference between a "armed guard" and a trained gunfighter?

While performers in the political theater are calling for armed guards in schools, few if any are aware of the special circumstances involved in just about all of the massacres carried out by heavily armed, suicidal psychopaths who have carfefully planned to deal with "armed guards," if necessary.

What the anti-gun demagogues don't realize is with few exceptions an "armed guard" is either a rusty old retired cop who never drew his weapon on or off duty and who had a few hours of routine training at the firearms range once or twice a year, or some ordinary indlividual with no special capabilities who took a four hour course at a civilian pistol range to qualify for a carry permit and is barely able to put four out of six hits on a paper target at twenty feet. An "armed guard" is a guy with a visible gun whose main purpose is to discourage the average low-level hold-up or unarmed troubemaker.

Dealing with a heavily armed psychopath calls for well-practiced skill with firearms and the kind of repetitive mental conditioning which enables reflexively competent responses to threatening firearms encounters. In other words, trained gunfighters who react automatically and effectively rather than freeze and need to think about what to do when confronted. Such individuals have special capabilities to begin with, they are extremely well trained, and they require constant practice to remain readily responsive.

Put an ordinary "armed guard" in a school and he will be the first casualty of the next suicidal shooter.

 

[Sunshine]

What is the difference between a National Guardsman and a Green Beret?

What is the difference between a "armed guard" and a trained gunfighter?

While performers in the political theater are calling for armed guards in schools, few if any are aware of the special circumstances involved in just about all of the massacres carried out by heavily armed, suicidal psychopaths who have carfefully planned to deal with "armed guards," if necessary.

What the anti-gun demagogues don't realize is with few exceptions an "armed guard" is either a rusty old retired cop who never drew his weapon on or off duty and who had a few hours of routine training at the firearms range once or twice a year, or some ordinary indlividual with no special capabilities who took a four hour course at a civilian pistol range to qualify for a carry permit and is barely able to put four out of six hits on a paper target at twenty feet. An "armed guard" is a guy with a visible gun whose main purpose is to discourage the average low-level hold-up or unarmed troubemaker.

Dealing with a heavily armed psychopath calls for well-practiced skill with firearms and the kind of repetitive mental conditioning which enables reflexively competent responses to threatening firearms encounters. In other words, trained gunfighters who react automatically and effectively rather than freeze and need to think about what to do when confronted. Such individuals have special capabilities to begin with, they are extremely well trained, and they require constant practice to remain readily responsive.

Put an ordinary "armed guard" in a school and he will be the first casualty of the next suicidal shooter.

There really needs to be a security specialty. Retired cops are as you describe. Another option others have mentioned has been retired soldiers. But I don't think that is feasable either as soldiers really have an aversion to turning their guns of fellow citizens. Either would be equally wrong. Some young entrepreneur really needs to collect a team of people, weapons experts, psychologists, psychiatrists, etc. People in psych hospitals and clinics are given extensive training on how to predict and prevent violence. School security really needs to be a specialty geared towared working in and around young children and teens with as little disruption to the school setting as possible.

 

[MikeK]

There really needs to be a security specialty. Retired cops are as you describe. Another option others have mentioned has been retired soldiers. But I don't think that is feasable either as soldiers really have an aversion to turning their guns of fellow citizens. Either would be equally wrong. Some young entrepreneur really needs to collect a team of people, weapons experts, psychologists, psychiatrists, etc. People in psych hospitals and clinics are given extensive training on how to predict and prevent violence. School security really needs to be a specialty geared towared working in and around young children and teens with as little disruption to the school setting as possible.

Back in the 1970s an epidemic of pharmacy holdups prompted NYPD to organize and train a special unit called the Stakeout Squad. This unit consisted of 24 specially selected Patrolmen and Detectives who spent four weeks at the firearms range undergoing intensive confrontation training. Members of this unit were then "planted" in pharmacies believed to be potential targets for hold-up. They set up dummy concealment panels which they hid behind -- and waited. Those who were not on stakeout were at the range practicing.

Within six weeks after this unit was deployed they had confronted and killed five armed robbers. Several witnesses to their method told reporters what they had seen was nothing short of cold-blooded murder. This negative publicity led to disbanding of the Stakeout Squad, which had effectively put an end to the drug-store robberies.

 

[Sunshine]

There really needs to be a security specialty. Retired cops are as you describe. Another option others have mentioned has been retired soldiers. But I don't think that is feasable either as soldiers really have an aversion to turning their guns of fellow citizens. Either would be equally wrong. Some young entrepreneur really needs to collect a team of people, weapons experts, psychologists, psychiatrists, etc. People in psych hospitals and clinics are given extensive training on how to predict and prevent violence. School security really needs to be a specialty geared towared working in and around young children and teens with as little disruption to the school setting as possible.

Back in the 1970s an epidemic of pharmacy holdups prompted NYPD to organize and train a special unit called the Stakeout Squad. This unit consisted of 24 specially selected Patrolmen and Detectives who spent four weeks at the firearms range undergoing intensive confrontation training. Members of this unit were then "planted" in pharmacies believed to be potential targets for hold-up. They set up dummy concealment panels which they hid behind -- and waited. Those who were not on stakeout were at the range practicing.

Within six weeks after this unit was deployed they had confronted and killed five armed robbers. Several witnesses to their method told reporters what they had seen was nothing short of cold-blooded murder. This negative publicity led to disbanding of the Stakeout Squad, which had effectively put an end to the drug-store robberies.

Not advocating shooting students who act suspicious. I AM advocating for there to be school security people who are specially trained not unlike those who work in psychiatry. We get extensive training on how to spot potentially violent patients, how to intervene, and when. I would bet at least a cyber dollar that the kid who shot up the school in CT could have been readily identified AND stopped if there had been a closed circuit TV system with cameras in all the hallways and a trained person monitoring them. I mean, really, this isn't Buck Rogers. They waste more money in schools than it would cost for every school to be equipped this way. If psych hospitals can have this technology in halls and seclusion rooms so can schools.