Arlington Cemetery crosses removed

[Micky G. Jagger]

Should all white crosses be removed from Arlington and all federal cemeteries? Since the US is looking at a stricter interpretation of the constitution regarding separation of church and state are the crosses violating this clause? Would a Muslim soldier buried there have a cross? A Jewish soldier?

Where does the Constitution grant the U. S. Government power to provide cemeteries?

Fortunately every law does not have to be spelled out in the Constitution.

"On July 17 of that year, Congress enacted legislation that authorized the President to purchase "cemetery grounds" to be used as national cemeteries "for soldiers who shall have died in the service of the country." Fourteen cemeteries were established that first year, including one in the sleepy Maryland town of Sharpsburg where 4,476 Union soldiers were laid to rest after the one day of terrible slaughter that was the Battle of Antietam. (By way of comparison, approximately 3,000 Americans, British and Canadians died on June 6, 1944, in the invasion of Normandy)."
General History - Burial & Memorials

Why aren't all of you constitutionalists demanding that Arlington Cemetery be turned over to the private sector?

 

[syrenn]

Since this is a Christian Nation, shouldn't all of the grave sties have a cross?

this isn't a christian nation.

or perhaps my jewish grandfather shouldn't have been a POW for this country...and my jewish father, uncles, father-in-law shouldn't have served??

Agreed.

 

[syrenn]

Where does the Constitution grant the U. S. Government power to provide cemeteries?

Fortunately every law does not have to be spelled out in the Constitution.

"On July 17 of that year, Congress enacted legislation that authorized the President to purchase "cemetery grounds" to be used as national cemeteries "for soldiers who shall have died in the service of the country." Fourteen cemeteries were established that first year, including one in the sleepy Maryland town of Sharpsburg where 4,476 Union soldiers were laid to rest after the one day of terrible slaughter that was the Battle of Antietam. (By way of comparison, approximately 3,000 Americans, British and Canadians died on June 6, 1944, in the invasion of Normandy)."
General History - Burial & Memorials

Why aren't all of you constitutionalists demanding that Arlington Cemetery be turned over to the private sector?

Arlington belongs in the private family hands of Robert E Lee not the private sector.

 

[Ozmar]

Fortunately every law does not have to be spelled out in the Constitution.

"On July 17 of that year, Congress enacted legislation that authorized the President to purchase "cemetery grounds" to be used as national cemeteries "for soldiers who shall have died in the service of the country." Fourteen cemeteries were established that first year, including one in the sleepy Maryland town of Sharpsburg where 4,476 Union soldiers were laid to rest after the one day of terrible slaughter that was the Battle of Antietam. (By way of comparison, approximately 3,000 Americans, British and Canadians died on June 6, 1944, in the invasion of Normandy)."
General History - Burial & Memorials

Why aren't all of you constitutionalists demanding that Arlington Cemetery be turned over to the private sector?

Arlington belongs in the private family hands of Robert E Lee not the private sector.

The government had acquired Arlington at tax sale in 1864 for $26,800.[4] Mrs. Lee had not appeared in person, but rather had sent an agent, attempting to timely pay the $92.07 in property taxes assessed the estate.[5] The government turned away her agent, refusing to accept the tendered payment. In 1877, Custis Lee, heir under his grandfather's will passing the estate in trust to his mother, sued the United States claiming ownership of Arlington. After the U.S. Supreme Court ruled 5-4 in Lee's favor in 1882, deciding that Arlington had been confiscated without due process,[5] Congress returned the estate to him. The next year Custis Lee sold it back to the government for $150,000 at a signing ceremony with Robert Todd Lincoln, Secretary of War.[6]

Arlington National Cemetery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


No, the government owns it.

 

[jillian]

Fortunately every law does not have to be spelled out in the Constitution.

"On July 17 of that year, Congress enacted legislation that authorized the President to purchase "cemetery grounds" to be used as national cemeteries "for soldiers who shall have died in the service of the country." Fourteen cemeteries were established that first year, including one in the sleepy Maryland town of Sharpsburg where 4,476 Union soldiers were laid to rest after the one day of terrible slaughter that was the Battle of Antietam. (By way of comparison, approximately 3,000 Americans, British and Canadians died on June 6, 1944, in the invasion of Normandy)."
General History - Burial & Memorials

Why aren't all of you constitutionalists demanding that Arlington Cemetery be turned over to the private sector?

Arlington belongs in the private family hands of Robert E Lee not the private sector.

spoils of war, hon.

 

[syrenn]

Why aren't all of you constitutionalists demanding that Arlington Cemetery be turned over to the private sector?

Arlington belongs in the private family hands of Robert E Lee not the private sector.

The government had acquired Arlington at tax sale in 1864 for $26,800.[4] Mrs. Lee had not appeared in person, but rather had sent an agent, attempting to timely pay the $92.07 in property taxes assessed the estate.[5] The government turned away her agent, refusing to accept the tendered payment. In 1877, Custis Lee, heir under his grandfather's will passing the estate in trust to his mother, sued the United States claiming ownership of Arlington. After the U.S. Supreme Court ruled 5-4 in Lee's favor in 1882, deciding that Arlington had been confiscated without due process,[5] Congress returned the estate to him. The next year Custis Lee sold it back to the government for $150,000 at a signing ceremony with Robert Todd Lincoln, Secretary of War.[6]

Arlington National Cemetery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


No, the government owns it.

Well how about that. You learn something new everyday. I did not know that fact. Thank you.

 

[syrenn]

Why aren't all of you constitutionalists demanding that Arlington Cemetery be turned over to the private sector?

Arlington belongs in the private family hands of Robert E Lee not the private sector.

spoils of war, hon.

yeah, i know. I didn't know the rest of it though...

 

[Ozmar]

Arlington belongs in the private family hands of Robert E Lee not the private sector.

The government had acquired Arlington at tax sale in 1864 for $26,800.[4] Mrs. Lee had not appeared in person, but rather had sent an agent, attempting to timely pay the $92.07 in property taxes assessed the estate.[5] The government turned away her agent, refusing to accept the tendered payment. In 1877, Custis Lee, heir under his grandfather's will passing the estate in trust to his mother, sued the United States claiming ownership of Arlington. After the U.S. Supreme Court ruled 5-4 in Lee's favor in 1882, deciding that Arlington had been confiscated without due process,[5] Congress returned the estate to him. The next year Custis Lee sold it back to the government for $150,000 at a signing ceremony with Robert Todd Lincoln, Secretary of War.[6]

Arlington National Cemetery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


No, the government owns it.

Well how about that. You learn something new everyday. I did not know that fact. Thank you.

No worries.

 

[jillian]

Arlington belongs in the private family hands of Robert E Lee not the private sector.

spoils of war, hon.

yeah, i know. I didn't know the rest of it though...

i didn't either. was very interesting.

 

[California Girl]

what a classy broad...

Most definitely when it comes to our service men and women. I guess I just grew up in a different time and different country ... and I don't very much like what's happened to it over the last several decades.

fauxrage....

Actually, jillian.... I know that many on the left don't understand words like 'patriotism' and 'respect' when it comes to our nation, but lots of us do. There ain't nothing 'faux' about it. Don't like it, that's fine. But don't mistake the right for people who go quietly into the night.

 

[Micky G. Jagger]

Arlington Nation Cemetery is Unconstitutional. Why should I have my money confiscated at gun point to provide a cemetery for lazy people? This cradle to grave socialism is not what the founders intended.

 

[Micky G. Jagger]

Most definitely when it comes to our service men and women. I guess I just grew up in a different time and different country ... and I don't very much like what's happened to it over the last several decades.

fauxrage....

Actually, jillian.... I know that many on the left don't understand words like 'patriotism' and 'respect' when it comes to our nation, but lots of us do. There ain't nothing 'faux' about it. Don't like it, that's fine. But don't mistake the right for people who go quietly into the night.

We need to respect the Constitution and get rid of all federal cemeteries, which are nothing but a foolish unnecessary and unlawful burden on the tax payers and step further down the road to socialism.

 

[Charles_Main]

Should all white crosses be removed from Arlington and all federal cemeteries? Since the US is looking at a stricter interpretation of the constitution regarding separation of church and state are the crosses violating this clause? Would a Muslim soldier buried there have a cross? A Jewish soldier?

Have you ever even been their brainiac? I have. Jews are buried under a star of David. I am sure A Muslim could have a crescent Head stone, and an Atheist can have a plane one.

However you do make a good point as far as the lefts war on religious symbols. It is only a matter of time before they demand the removal of them from cemeteries.

 

[zzzz]

Personally I think it should be up to the soldier’s family to decide what will eternally rest on their family member’s grave site. I think the whole argument about the separation of religion and state has gone far beyond what the framers of the Constitution intended. Here we have federal property and religious symbols being erected on a daily basis. Yet an individual or group cannot set up a monument to the 10 commandments in front of a federal courthouse. I can see this argument being used in the future as we, the USA, become more and more intolerant of any religious expression at all. Will it come to be that wearing crosses in public will be a finable offense because it intrudes on another person’s religion? Look at what has come to pass in today’s society that 50 years ago we never thought we would see. Anything is possible in time.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Since this is a Christian Nation, shouldn't all of the grave sties have a cross?

Okay, who left the door open and let the trash blow in?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Since this is a Christian Nation, shouldn't all of the grave sties have a cross?

this isn't a christian nation.

or perhaps my jewish grandfather shouldn't have been a POW for this country...and my jewish father, uncles, father-in-law shouldn't have served??

Please don't feed the trolls. It only encourages them.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Arlington Nation Cemetery is Unconstitutional. Why should I have my money confiscated at gun point to provide a cemetery for lazy people? This cradle to grave socialism is not what the founders intended.

Can I invite you to have a big, foamy glass of shut the fuck up? While I'm sure you're well aware that your posts are neither constructive nor productive, you seem to be laboring under the delusion that they're humorous. Stop wasting screen space.

 

[Micky G. Jagger]

Arlington Nation Cemetery is Unconstitutional. Why should I have my money confiscated at gun point to provide a cemetery for lazy people? This cradle to grave socialism is not what the founders intended.

Can I invite you to have a big, foamy glass of shut the fuck up? While I'm sure you're well aware that your posts are neither constructive nor productive, you seem to be laboring under the delusion that they're humorous. Stop wasting screen space.

Why don't you just point out the provision in the Constitution that grants Congress power to provide cemeteries?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Arlington Nation Cemetery is Unconstitutional. Why should I have my money confiscated at gun point to provide a cemetery for lazy people? This cradle to grave socialism is not what the founders intended.

Can I invite you to have a big, foamy glass of shut the fuck up? While I'm sure you're well aware that your posts are neither constructive nor productive, you seem to be laboring under the delusion that they're humorous. Stop wasting screen space.

Why don't you just point out the provision in the Constitution that grants Congress power to provide cemeteries?

Why don't you just ask me to point out the provision in the Constitution that grants Congress power to offer military servicepeople medical benefits while you're at it? Arlington is a military cemetery (as well as including Presidents and other federal government officials) and falls under the heading of providing for the military (because only dipshits like you think that morale and honor are non-essentials to maintaining a military).

Now run the fuck along and go try to stir up trouble somewhere else with people dumb enough to believe you matter.

 

[Micky G. Jagger]

Can I invite you to have a big, foamy glass of shut the fuck up? While I'm sure you're well aware that your posts are neither constructive nor productive, you seem to be laboring under the delusion that they're humorous. Stop wasting screen space.

Why don't you just point out the provision in the Constitution that grants Congress power to provide cemeteries?

Why don't you just ask me to point out the provision in the Constitution that grants Congress power to offer military service people medical benefits while you're at it?

Point out the provision in the Constitution that grants Congress power to offer military service people medical benefits.

Arlington is a military cemetery (as well as including Presidents and other federal government officials) and falls under the heading of providing for the military.

Point out the provision that grants Congress power to provide for a military.

morale and honor are non-essentials to maintaining a military.

Point out the provision that grants Congress power to maintain a military.