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No, it is you that doesn't have a clue as your continued predilection for irrelevancy demonstrates. Hawaii hasn't submitted anything to the Arizona Secretary of State pertaining to Obama that is verifiable, nothing. If you think otherwise, present the evidence.Sigh, I always get dragged back into these things for one more post...
My point had nothing to do with a State's right to choose who goes on their ballot.
My point had to do with the REASON Arizona is giving to keep him off the ballot, which is an illegal one.
Cleaver was kept off the ballot because he was too young to be president. That was a recorded, undisputed fact, and the argument did not contradict the legal records of another state.
The incident with Ike was due to the fact that he had not shown birth record at all. Again, no contradiction with the legal records of another state, they had simply not been presented.
If Arizona attempts to invalidate the legal documents and ruling of the State of Hawaii, however, they are specifically attempting to violate the Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution, which is an illegal act, and should be treated as such.
Once again, the only authority that has the right to validate or invalidate the birth records of Mr Obama is the State of Hawaii.
That is not my opinion, that is what is specifically written in the US Constitution.
To Wit:
The clause is perfectly clear, and does not leave room for error. One state simply cannot over-rule the "public acts, records, and judicial proceedings" of another state. It's ILLEGAL.
Now, having pointed that out, AGAIN, I will leave this thread to be posted on by fools and their manipulators.
Out.
Well Hawaii needs to send the Ken Bennett a original certified copy of Obama's long form birth certificate so it can be authenticated by independent document experts so it can be accepted under the FF&C. Do you agree?
No, Hawaii doesn't need to do anything except verify what was submitted to the SOS office is authentic. You really don't have a clue about the way this works do you? Go outside and play kid.
No, it is you that doesn't have a clue as your continued predilection for irrelevancy demonstrates. Hawaii hasn't submitted anything to the Arizona Secretary of State pertaining to Obama that is verifiable, nothing. If you think otherwise, present the evidence.
As Arizona takes another stupid pill
Just another r-wing extremist trying to circumvent the constitution. Looks like another r-wing wacko playing politics with our constitution.
Arizona official may keep Obama off ballot
The top elections official in Arizona says it is "possible" President Obama won't be listed on the state's November ballot because of questions about his birth certificate.
Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett said in a radio interview that he's been trying for eight weeks to verify with the state of Hawaii the facts in Obama's birth certificate.
"I'm not playing to the birthers. I'm not a birther," Bennett told KFYI host Mike Broomhead on Thursday. "I believe the president was born in Hawaii -- at least I hope he was.
"But my responsibility as secretary of State is to make sure the ballots in Arizona are correct and that those people whose names are on the ballot have met the qualifications for the office they are seeking," he said.
The Republican official is exploring a 2014 race for governor.
No, it is you that doesn't have a clue as your continued predilection for irrelevancy demonstrates. Hawaii hasn't submitted anything to the Arizona Secretary of State pertaining to Obama that is verifiable, nothing. If you think otherwise, present the evidence.
You made the claim, the burdern of proof is yours, so get to it. Begin with 2008 and certification of the ballot in Arizona. You will find out what a fool you sound like.
No, it is you that doesn't have a clue as your continued predilection for irrelevancy demonstrates. Hawaii hasn't submitted anything to the Arizona Secretary of State pertaining to Obama that is verifiable, nothing. If you think otherwise, present the evidence.
You made the claim, the burdern of proof is yours, so get to it. Begin with 2008 and certification of the ballot in Arizona. You will find out what a fool you sound like.
She doesn't have to. AZ has accepted it.
She doesn't have to. AZ has accepted it.
Arizona has never been presented anything from Hawaii. What do you think Hawaii presented them?
Has any person ever been denied on a presidential ballot of a state?She doesn't have to. AZ has accepted it.
Arizona has never been presented anything from Hawaii. What do you think Hawaii presented them?
Prove it.
Right, they should just roll over and play dead like you Liberals do.As Arizona takes another stupid pill
The Arizona Sec. of State said he's been trying to verify the facts of Obama's B.C. but to no avail.
Obama can just end all this by showing his real B.C. but he can't because it doesn't exist.
Also, it looks more and more like I'm gonna' win the bet. Obama will NOT be on the ballot in all 50 states!
The AZ secretarty of state has not ruled out asking Romney for his birth certificate as was reported yesterday.Right, they should just roll over and play dead like you Liberals do.As Arizona takes another stupid pill
The Arizona Sec. of State said he's been trying to verify the facts of Obama's B.C. but to no avail.
Obama can just end all this by showing his real B.C. but he can't because it doesn't exist.
Also, it looks more and more like I'm gonna' win the bet. Obama will NOT be on the ballot in all 50 states!
John McCain and George Romney, both Republicans, were foreign born..and ran for President.
Why no problem there..ace?
Just another r-wing extremist trying to circumvent the constitution. Looks like another r-wing wacko playing politics with our constitution.
Arizona official may keep Obama off ballot
The top elections official in Arizona says it is "possible" President Obama won't be listed on the state's November ballot because of questions about his birth certificate.
Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett said in a radio interview that he's been trying for eight weeks to verify with the state of Hawaii the facts in Obama's birth certificate.
"I'm not playing to the birthers. I'm not a birther," Bennett told KFYI host Mike Broomhead on Thursday. "I believe the president was born in Hawaii -- at least I hope he was.
"But my responsibility as secretary of State is to make sure the ballots in Arizona are correct and that those people whose names are on the ballot have met the qualifications for the office they are seeking," he said.
The Republican official is exploring a 2014 race for governor.
You joke but the Feds threatened that when Texas wanted to toss the TSA out. The Feds threated a blockade and Texas (James Dick Perry) backed down.Doesnt Arizona realize Obama is Commander in Chief?Right, they should just roll over and play dead like you Liberals do.
The Arizona Sec. of State said he's been trying to verify the facts of Obama's B.C. but to no avail.
Obama can just end all this by showing his real B.C. but he can't because it doesn't exist.
Also, it looks more and more like I'm gonna' win the bet. Obama will NOT be on the ballot in all 50 states!
He can just invade Arizona and lock everyone up until they provide official copies of their birth certificates and have them authenticated by the Secretary of State
Most Arizonans should be out of prizon in six to nine months
I HOPE Obama sends in the Military (or the UN) like you say, because it'll expose him for the Dictator that he is.
Just another r-wing extremist trying to circumvent the constitution. Looks like another r-wing wacko playing politics with our constitution.
Arizona official may keep Obama off ballot
The top elections official in Arizona says it is "possible" President Obama won't be listed on the state's November ballot because of questions about his birth certificate.
Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett said in a radio interview that he's been trying for eight weeks to verify with the state of Hawaii the facts in Obama's birth certificate.
"I'm not playing to the birthers. I'm not a birther," Bennett told KFYI host Mike Broomhead on Thursday. "I believe the president was born in Hawaii -- at least I hope he was.
"But my responsibility as secretary of State is to make sure the ballots in Arizona are correct and that those people whose names are on the ballot have met the qualifications for the office they are seeking," he said.
The Republican official is exploring a 2014 race for governor.
This would be just PURE STUPID. Creating this kind of controversy at this stage would only help not hurt Obama.
Yes they can. It's within the Secretary of States powers.we all know no state can keep Obama off the ballot.
and if they omitt Obama their asses will be in big trouble
