Are Your Favorite Restaurants Being Shut Down? Who Is To Blame?

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    When I was young everybody went to the local Denny's when the bars closed. So everybody would bounce around the bars all night, then meet up again at Denny's and the party would continue only without booze, in bright light, add pancakes and chicken fried steak. People would move from table to table just like they were still at the bar, it was hilarious. We even had tiny juke boxes at the tables.
     
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    My stuffed gnocchi was pretty freaking good, and I've had authentic Italian gnocchi....
     
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    Totally flawed analysis. It's not that people cannot afford to go out to eat, it is that they choose to spend their money on other things. Today, every family has a cell plan that runs in the hundreds of dollars. 20 years ago, every house had a landline that cost, perhaps, $50/mo. 20 years ago a family might have a few TVs, with some of them being 20 years old. Now every family has newer, smart TVs. Housing and transportation expenses continue to rise as a percentage of household income. Going out to eat used to be as much a function of entertainment as of hunger. Now we are more content to stay home and enjoy our video game consoles and streaming services.
     
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    The steaks aren't that bad. I like the onion and their shrimp dishes, though, as chains go. Steak chains are a toss-up.

    Around here, the stand-alones are the best. RT's, Mt. Vernon Ave., Alexandria, VA. The best of Cajun, for example.
     
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    Did you have avocado toast? Yeah, I have a millennial son and his eating places are much different. His idea of going out is ordering online, free delivery and eating in. Even going out, these were places I wouldn't normally try, let alone know about, so that's how I got into looking at where they frequent. What popped up were the long-time chains and buffets going out of business including Subway. The downside. There may be other reasons, but one of the reasons was high college debt and not being able to get a job for months, years after graduation. It could be these places are going to pop up on Instagram, too. Yelp, yes. Instagram, no.

    Okay, one of the big things is millennials have to learn how to save or spend less than what they make. I even looked at one gal and what she spent money on. She spent too much on things that you and I would've scrimped on while on our first jobs. Part of it could be they don't know how to save or make do with less. I can't find the article again, but here are a couple of examples.

    Good and Bad
    10 Things Millennials Buy Far More Often Than Everyone Else

    Fitness?
    This Study Says Millennials Spend More Money On Fitness Than On College, But Do They?

    We wouldn't rent that long
    Millennials Spend About $93,000 on Rent by The Time They Hit 30
     
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    They aren’t gone.
     
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    I hated to see BlackEyedPea shut down.

    When I first read in the news about a historic sewing/fabric company shutting down on the East Coast, and then a historic "General Store," I thought there should be program to buy out historic businesses and create training storefronts for Vets or student interns on how to run operations. So while the business may still operate
    at a loss or nonprofit breaking even, the value of keeping it going would be as an educational workshop to train people in what steps
    and processes are involved in management. That way they can learn what fails and loses, without having to really set up and lose a business. The business storefront or factory grounds can be part of a campus program, similar to the Hotel/Restaurant at UH campus that is part of its management program but actually run as a business serving customers and clients.
    Once they learn how to operate successfully, THAT's when they can branch off and set up their own business having already gone down that curve.

    So why not use sites left behind by Walmart's moving out of towns.
    Why not buy out restaurants and businesses that close, and set up campuses for
    Vets, disabled or disadvantaged students to learn on hands work and management skills
    while they are earning their education as interns?

    Maybe we can still save historic sites and districts by using the shells left behind,
    and the business following to support education in property mgmt and financial viability.
     
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    They are different that is for sure. They view the world differently than we did, but than I do so differently than my parents did. I think they are given a bad rap far more than they deserve. My daughter called me a couple months ago because in the craziness that is nursing school she was 3 days late paying her electric bill and she was worried it would hurt her credit!

    When we were visiting last month she took us to what was essentially a tequila bar with a food menu. They had about 9 varieties of street tacos and it was some of the best food I have ever eaten. Would have never walked into the place on my own, but they knew about it and the food was simply to die for.

    We saw houses as the goal, as the sign we made it. Today more and more people see owning a home as an anchor they do not want. If a job opens up 3 states away they want to be able to go get it. Multiple studies have shown that home ownership slowed the recovery as much as anything. People were upside down on their homes and could not move to where the jobs where.

    I am in my mid-50s and have chosen to rent the current house I am in vice buying. My wife and I knew we only wanted a house this large for 4 years till my son graduated high school. large kitchen for me to cook in and a huge basement for the teenage boys to spend their time in. Our rent is less than what a mortgage and property taxes would be and we live worry free. When the roof needed replaced, it was not our $3500, or our $1000 to fix the water main in the front yard.
     
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    For breakfast out me and wife eat at 2 different local places or we eat Chic Fil A.
     
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    We did the same thing only at a Ram's Horn,
     
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