Are You Really Willing To Help The Recovery Effort?

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    The article states that recent polls indicat that Americans are willing to pay to rebuild New Orleans. "According to a CBS-New York Times poll released Wednesday, 73 percent expect their taxes will increase as a result of Katrina, and more than half said they were willing to pay more taxes to help with Katrina recovery, job training and housing for victims."

    Are you part of the 73% or the 27%?

    I don't want to sound cold but I'm not so sure about how much I am willing to pay.

    http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/15/D8CKNBVG2.html
     
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    Good observation and another ridiculous poll question. Don't worry about feeling cold-be proud of being honest. I have been volunteering my time at the Austin Convention Center and the average time by far that the average volunteer spends there is 1 shift. The well intentioned do-gooders are quickly overwhelmed when they discover that thay actually have to work there in an environment that is not safe, the chances of getting ill are quite high, the clients are often demanding and rude, and hundreds are so mentally ill that convesation with them is nearly impossible.

    One could ask any population if they expected that thier taxes would go up for no particular reason at all. I'm sure the results would be nearly identical.
     
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    I have done quite a bit here - mostly financially but have also delivered things purchased for survivors, etc. I commend you for the time you have spent volunteering.

    I grew up in Southern California - earthquakes, forest fires, etc. Always had the risk of losing everything. We prepared, saved money, etc because my parents said that if we ever lost everything, we would move where we didn't have to worry about so many things happening.

    I would love to buy a condo in the Destin/Panama City area but knowing the history of the area with hurricanes, forget it.

    You make decisions every day. The people who live in New Orleans, Florida, Southern California, Kansas/Oklahoma (tornado alley), know the risks they are taking by living there. And they should also be prepared for when something happens.

    There have been countless natural disasters where people have lost everything. Yes, I know...not to the magnitude of New Orleans, but the basic premise is the same. Take responsibility for yourself and your lives. Far too many people are expecting handouts.

    If they want to rebuild people's houses (which is the equvilant of giving them a new house-probably nicer than what they had to begin with for some of them), make them help. Elderly? They can paint, plant flours, etc. Young? Give them a saw and a hammer.

    If they have a hand in building their own place, and being hands on in the recovery effort, maybe those area will not end up so run down and derelict.
     
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    I have also gotten a real kick out of moveon.org people passing out flyers at the convention center. It offers a web site (hurricanehousing.org) where people can go to and offers of temporary housing from the moveon wackos.
    Try the site and click on the Austin link for example and tell me how successful you think these 250,000 some "offers" will be. :rolleyes:
     
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    I checked Austin. It is heartwarming to see how many people are offering their couch, futon, etc. Even if the survivors aren't allowed to bring meat into the house.

    Seriously, it is nice to see how people are opening their homes. Not something I would consider doing, but that is just me.

    I would donate time to build a home for a family, but when you start talking abou raising taxes, job training, etc...I hae a bit of a problem with that.
     
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    I have no trouble helping out with food or clothes or money. But I deffinately dont think taxes should be raised. If anything taxes should be cut again. Our economy took a huge hit with Katrina. We will need more money in the system to revitalize it.

    Also I find it morally reprehensible to increase taxes on others to make them pay for the people of New Orleans. Being free with your own money is good and i encourage that, but passing legislation to take that money to give the others is just wrong. it makes those who its taken from bitter and makes the people who receiving it ungrateful because they come to see it as an entitlement instead of a gift.
     
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    I guess my problem is that we pay $$ every month so that we will have insurance in case our home is damaged or destroyed for some reason. Are we going to have to pay through tax increases because others couldn't be bothered to adequately insure what they owend? And for those who didn't own a home, did they have renters insurance for their property? We did when we rented. If a family truly cannot afford a monthly premium, that's one thing, but I wonder how many could afford it but chose not to pay for it?
     
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    In other words, you are a responsible homeowner who values your property and possessions to the point that you will purchase something called insurance?

    What a brilliant idea. I bet you learned that from proper parental upbringing, among many other things.

    And I don't want to hear anything about not being able to afford insurance, homeowners or rental; I know for a fact that insurance would have been very inexpensive for a majority of those people.
     
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    I have not sent a dime...I for one chose to live where the odds of destruction are minimal to say the least...those who live in these disastor areas do so for the most part thru choice...if not I feel sorry for them...however our country sends billions of aid to countries outside the US and when we have a disastor...why is it we hear from our leaders "dip into your pocket to help!"
    Why not save our aid money from taxes to help our own rather then send to foreign (corrupt) governments to spend it on their own interests and arms to throw back at us a a later date! Just one mans opinion... :salute:
     
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    You have too. In the form of tax dollars. We have all together already agreed to send more than $60 Billion dollars, and it is expected to be over $200 Billion by the end of it all.
     

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