Are you ready to start voting third party yet?

[Ray From Cleveland]

And, how has that worked out for you? Can you say that things have gotten better politically speaking in our country while you have done that?

What else could we do?

What happened was NOTHING. A guy that spent his life helping to fund the establishment became president. And he is making sure no other "outsider" ever has a chance to win again. It is almost like that is what his role is supposed to be.

Trump was a businessman. Like many companies, he gave to everybody just to have some pull to benefit his companies. It's not all that unusual.

But he's not a businessman any longer, he is the President of the United States. He doesn't need to payoff or kiss anybody's ass. He may have made a lot of enemies in both parties, but doing the right thing would have kept him favorable with the people.

 

[dblack]

We have to change the voting system first. FairVote.org

 

[Votto]

I'll vote third party if its a good candidate. But if we really want to start a third party it needs to start with local races instead of focusing only on the white house

I never considered it until now. I've been pissed at the Republicans before and thought I would switch to Independent just to show them how they are losing us, but this time I will do it if a conservative party forms: the Tea Party, the Freedom Party, the Constitutional Party or anything like that.

Trump made a terrible move. He just lost his reelection bid anyway, and the House and Senate are going to go to the Democrats, so why didn't he take the risk and let them shutdown the government? He would at least kept his supporters on board.

It's hard to say just how diabolical Progressives are.

Did they threaten him personally or his family?

What I do know is, I never thought Trump was a pussy till now.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It's hard to say just how diabolical Progressives are.

Did they threaten him personally or his family?

What I do know is, I never thought Trump was a pussy till now.

There is something going on with these illegals in this country that the party and even Trump are willing to risk their demise. I can't put my finger on it. I mean, I do know why the Democrats are doing it, but for the life of me, I can't understand why the Republicans are selling us out too.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

And, how has that worked out for you? Can you say that things have gotten better politically speaking in our country while you have done that?

What else could we do?

Just imagine if everyone that did what you do every election had voted 3rd party instead.

What if in 2012 all you that voted for Romney while pinching their nose, had said instead, "you know, there really is not much difference between Romney and Obama (which is a cold, hard fact), maybe we should try something different this time".

It was once said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

 

[FJO]

A third party, on either side of the political spectrum, is simply NOT and never will be, in the DNA of the average American.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

And, how has that worked out for you? Can you say that things have gotten better politically speaking in our country while you have done that?

What else could we do?

Just imagine if everyone that did what you do every election had voted 3rd party instead.

What if in 2012 all you that voted for Romney while pinching their nose, had said instead, "you know, there really is not much difference between Romney and Obama (which is a cold, hard fact), maybe we should try something different this time".

It was once said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

And that's what's required--an imagination.

We could solve our drug problem if everybody taking illegal drugs would just stop.

We could solve poverty if all the poor people stopped having kids and got a job instead.

We could solve our job and pay problem if all Americans just purchased American made products.

In other words, you're not being realistic here. You're not going to get everybody to do one thing. It's a pipe dream at best.

 

[Votto]

It's hard to say just how diabolical Progressives are.

Did they threaten him personally or his family?

What I do know is, I never thought Trump was a pussy till now.

There is something going on with these illegals in this country that the party and even Trump are willing to risk their demise. I can't put my finger on it. I mean, I do know why the Democrats are doing it, but for the life of me, I can't understand why the Republicans are selling us out too.

It's easy enough to see.

Folks coming from these third world sh$t holes don't know anything other than dictatorships and socialism. So when they come to this country, they still don't know anything other than dictatorships and socialism. The end result is, they all vote "D".

Whites are being targeted because by in large they are conservative and believe in the Founding principles of the country, such as a limited government. As a result, they have created a race war to expunge "Whitey" from the country.

It has nothing really to do with race though, it's just that the color of your skin is a good indicator as to your politics, much like 99.999999% of blacks voting "D" every election.

The other end of it is, the government is controlled by globalists who don't want borders. They disdain national borders and national sovereignty, so they will do anything in their power to subvert it.

Meanwhile, they can continue to enjoy the fruits of cheap labor.

It will never change.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It's hard to say just how diabolical Progressives are.

Did they threaten him personally or his family?

What I do know is, I never thought Trump was a pussy till now.

There is something going on with these illegals in this country that the party and even Trump are willing to risk their demise. I can't put my finger on it. I mean, I do know why the Democrats are doing it, but for the life of me, I can't understand why the Republicans are selling us out too.

It's easy enough to see.

Folks coming from these third world sh$t holes don't know anything other than dictatorships and socialism. So when they come to this country, they still don't know anything other than dictatorships and socialism. The end result is, they all vote "D".

Whites are being targeted because by in large they are conservative and believe in the Founding principles of the country, such as a limited government. As a result, they have created a race war to expunge "Whitey" from the country.

It has nothing really to do with race though, it's just that the color of your skin is a good indicator as to your politics, much like 99.999999% of blacks voting "D" every election.

The other end of it is, the government is controlled by globalists who don't want borders. They disdain national borders and national sovereignty, so they will do anything in their power to subvert it.

Meanwhile, they can continue to enjoy the fruits of cheap labor.

It will never change.

Again, I understand why Democrats are doing it. But Republicans gain nothing from foreigners. If anything, it will hurt them as you stated.

The goal of the Democrat party is to make us whites a minority as quickly as possible. That way they have the ability to make this a single-party government forever. I mean......even the Republicans have to know this.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Until a third party presents a candidate that can win, it's a wasted vote.

While the Republicans are not shiny, the point right now is to keep the Democrats at bay.

Circular reasoning caused by brainwashing from the two parties....

A third party cannot win because nobody will vote for them, nobody will vote for them because they cannot win. It is also what is known as a self fulfilling prophecy.

Voting in America today is not about getting your guy in.....it's about keeping the other guy out. That's why it's difficult for a third party to arise.

I'm no different than many Americans. I don't vote because I want X in, I vote to keep Y out.

Since that is the goal for many of us, voting anything other than one of the two parties is throwing your vote away. I can't keep Hillary out if I vote Libertarian. I couldn't keep DumBama out by voting Independent. If I vote for anybody BUT a Republican, I might as well not vote at all.

It is that way because that is the way you have been programed to vote. Both parties know that there are enough people like you out there that they have nothing to worry about, they can do whatever they want and you will still vote for them. What a great system for them.

Here is a Repub strategy meeting:

"Wow, we added 540 billion added to the debt in 90 days"..."don't worry, they will still vote for us".

"look at this sweet 1.3 trillion spending bill we passed for the next 6 months"...."don't worry, they will still vote for us".

Tell me, what would be different in the US today had Hillary won?

Not partisan rhetoric, but cold hard facts.

There can be no cold hard facts, because she was not elected. But one can extrapolate what had gone before (H.W., Bill, George the Halfacrat, and Obama - all staunch globalists) to ascertain the direction Hillary would have pursued.

Both parties are shit, but one is more shitty than the other. I vote to keep the shit to as tolerable a level as possible.

 

[Desperado]

Trump is the closest thing we've ever had.

If we had a third party president, it would be exactly like we have now, where both parties work against him.

 

[dblack]

This would help a lot: The Two-Party System Is Facing Its Biggest Challenge In 70 Years

 

[JWBooth]

Until a third party presents a candidate that can win, it's a wasted vote.

While the Republicans are not shiny, the point right now is to keep the Democrats at bay.

Every vote is a wasted vote.