Are you fed up with The FED?

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  1. AVG-JOE
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    yes.

    Welcome back avg Joe!
     
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    I have been posting about this all day today because yesterday I re-watched Freedom to Fascism.

    I argued with one guy that Ron Paul agreed with the DVD and this guy was arguing with me. So I must have watched Freedom to Fascism before I knew who Ron Paul was, because he's in the dvd!!!! I love it.

    Check out a thread about Kucenich and I started one called Freedom to Fascism.

    Maybe you can answer why it is unconstitutional still, even after the 16th amendment ratified it.
     
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    The 16th Amendment didn't ratify the Fed sealy, the 16th Amendment made the income tax legal. Yes, the Fed should be abolished immediately.
     
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    Please post this in the conspiracy section.

    There are ridiculous untruths in this article and that is where it deserves to be.
     
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    Obviously Obama and the Democrats in Congress aren't. (The GOP is dead, so they don't really count anymore.)
     
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    editec Mr. Forgot-it-All

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    Yes...among other things.
     
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    In the dvd they explain how the Supreme Court ruled that the 16th Amendment gave Congress no new taxation powers.

    I think if you really really read the 16th amendment and had a chance to disect all the facts, I think you would conclude that the bankers got away with a silent coup in 1913.

    Out of everyone, I hope you get your hands on the Freedom to Fascism dvd. And wasn't it you that said Ron Paul does not agree with me about this? Well he's in the dvd. I didn't know who he was the first time I saw it. He admits, "no it is not constitutional or legal, but the people who have the guns say it is so I guess it is".

    And just look at all the quotes from Jefferson & Wilson and Ford I have posted. The Federal Reserve is definately shady.

    But of course they were very clever in passing the 16th amendment. It is very vague.

    Ok, here is your mission. Show me the law where it says I have to pay income tax.
     
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    Sealy challenges us to:

    Let us assume you are right, and that all the legal minds which current hold sway over our society overlooked writing a law that makes taxation legal.

    Then what?

    Wouldn't we have to pass such a law TODAY because governments NEED to be able to tax us in order to do what government do?

    the reason that the original constiution didn't mention personal income taxation is because the government USED to get the majority of its money from TRADE TARIFFS.

    Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm obsessed by tariffs and trade, but that because I read history and realize how much we've changed the way we think about the purpose of government in the last 40 or 50 years.
     
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    I didn't say Ron Paul didn't agree with you on the Fed or the income tax. He wants the Fed abolished, and the 16th Amendment repealed. I'm telling you that an amendment to the Constitution cannot be unconstitutional.
     

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