Are you entitled?

Are Americans entitled to medical care?


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The federal government is not empowered via the constitution to hand out any entitlement... it is an abuse of power that was assumed by those craving power within our government... this power was grabbed without amendment to the constitution
 
Americans and non citizens get medical free care. The high cost of "free" insurance and medical care has nothing to do with ACA
 
Well, a health care system based on an income tax all the way to the top, on all income, would adaquetely fund the system. And preventive care is far cheaper than care after the fact. Not only that, as is, you lose your employment, you lose your health care. Should you get sick while unemployed, the next thing you lose is your home. Then you get to file for bankruptcy.

Now that is a real smart system. When a family runs onto hard times just keep kicking them until they are down to the point that they cannot get back up.

The other industrial nations pay about half what we do per capita for their health care systems. They cover all their citizens, and have a longer life span, as well as far lower infant mortality. Results count.
 
As a practical matter yes, because we do not believe in letting people die in the streets (at least not from illness). The elephant in the room has been medical insurance, which has driven up health care costs to a point where even well-off individuals can't afford to pay these costs themselves. That is why health care is so much cheaper in most other countries. People are much more careful when spending their own money.

Unfortunately, the idea of medical insurance premiums as a tax free benefit (originally created for labor unions) has become so imbedded in our health care system that there is little we can do at this point. Other than its political implications, government-run health care may be no worse than the monster we have already created.
 
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I picked other, because i don't think anyone is entitled to free healthcare. However I think all americans are entitled to affordable health coverage, if they choose.

Federal government has the power to impose a price for a good or service??

I never said the goverment would set the price. I think the government could and should prevent price gouging and I do think we need healthcare reform.

I think every American who wants to pay for health insurance should be able to have it. That doesn't mean they get it for free, or that they get the best insurance.
 
The federal government is not empowered via the constitution to hand out any entitlement... it is an abuse of power that was assumed by those craving power within our government... this power was grabbed without amendment to the constitution

YEP. Thats why they ruled this stupid ass act a tax. Another lie by his administration
 
As a practical matter yes, because we do not believe in letting people die in the streets (at least not form illness). The elephant in the room has been medical insurance, which has driven up health care costs to a point where even well off individuals can't afford to pay these costs themselves. That is why health care is so much cheaper in most other countries: People are much more careful when spending their own money.

Unfortunately, the idea of medical insurance premiums as a tax free benefit (originally created for labor unions) has become so imbedded in our health care system that there is little we can do at this point. Other than its political implications, government-run health care may be no worse than the monster we have already created.

Insurance hasn't driven up the cost of care, it's the other way around.
 
I dont think we need this shit. Does healthcare need to be reformed? ABSOLUTELY. Why in the hell should someone get an MRI on a 15 year old machine, that is still paying the price to pay for it? It got paid for a long time ago! Its not a small business that makes stickers. If it would just be reformed, we wouldnt have to go through this BS.
 
Well, a health care system based on an income tax all the way to the top, on all income, would adaquetely fund the system. And preventive care is far cheaper than care after the fact. Not only that, as is, you lose your employment, you lose your health care. Should you get sick while unemployed, the next thing you lose is your home. Then you get to file for bankruptcy.

Now that is a real smart system. When a family runs onto hard times just keep kicking them until they are down to the point that they cannot get back up.

The other industrial nations pay about half what we do per capita for their health care systems. They cover all their citizens, and have a longer life span, as well as far lower infant mortality. Results count.

Those other countries are also smaller and with less people, don't have our obesity epidemic, and don't have brainless zombies for politicians. Not that I don't support universal care, but it will be a hell of a bumpy ride and will probably end up being quite a bit worse than what the rest of the world has.
 
Are you entitled to medical care? If you get sick, need medical attention, are you entitled to it, regardless that you can't afford it?

It seems this is a fundamental split in our nation, those that feel medical care is a right, and those that feel its not.


No one is entitled to anything. Period.

The fundamental split is that some in the country feel that their lives are owed to them and have a right to force others to carry them.


But if basic, bare bones, no frills, wait forever in lines...WITH limitation in care and a cap on how much will be spent on you is offered... the people who are are asking for that should stop complaining they want MORE of what they are already NOT paying for and getting for free.

for example... you are NOT going to that million dollar operation that MAY only extend your life for 6 months.

In other words... don't whine that you want same care the people who are paying for the care are getting.
 
As a practical matter yes, because we do not believe in letting people die in the streets (at least not form illness). The elephant in the room has been medical insurance, which has driven up health care costs to a point where even well off individuals can't afford to pay these costs themselves. That is why health care is so much cheaper in most other countries: People are much more careful when spending their own money.

Unfortunately, the idea of medical insurance premiums as a tax free benefit (originally created for labor unions) has become so imbedded in our health care system that there is little we can do at this point. Other than its political implications, government-run health care may be no worse than the monster we have already created.

Insurance hasn't driven up the cost of care, it's the other way around.

Well, if you mean rising health care costs have driven up the cost of medical insurance, you are correct. But the underlying cause of rising health care costs is that health care consumers do not even ask about the cost of any procedure or test; the sky is the limit when the service is "free." Add to that the increased cost of medical malpractice insurance due to unlimited claims awards and you arrive where we are today.
 
Like it or not - we are not the kind of people who are going to stand by and watch someone die on the street in front of us without lifting a finger.
Are people "entitled" to free healthcare. No, not imho, but they are going to get it. They could at least be grateful. And those who can afford to contribute to their own healthcare costs - should.

You can make all the logically sound and well-principled arguments you want - we are not the kind of people who watch others suffer and die right in front of us without lifting a finger.
 
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