Are Wisconsin’s Public Employees Overpaid?

[shintao]

If you consider their extremely favorable Pension plans, No cost health care, and other benefits, and in the case of Teachers the 4 months a year they get off.

Wisconsin teachers already pay 6% toward health insurance and that the proposal is to increase it to 12.6%. So they do not have "no cost health care" currently.

(Less than many yes, that is true, but no cost is false.)

Last time I checked Wis had one of the highest cost per students in the country. Yet their students score very low comparatively.

Actually Wisconsin was ranked 18th in cost per pupil at $10,529 with the national average at $9,963. Much lower than the $15,100 for Vermont and clumped in 17-24 ranking for those spending in the $10,000 range. Link


For that cost per pupil Wisconsin students Rank #2 in composite SAT Scores (Link)

And

For that cost per pupil Wisconsin students Rank #3 in ACT Composite Scores (Link).



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I think we have already shown that the stupid children come from red states, regardless of how much each student gets, and the real dumb ones listen to Fox News.

 

[Big Fitz]

Here's a better question:

Are teachers WORTH what they are paid?

Nationwide, only 30 percent of public school eighth graders earned a rating of “proficient” or better in reading, and the average reading score on the NAEP test was 262 out of 500.

How is this value for our money when in WI they spend over 10k per pupil and that is more than a 4k jump from 1998 to 2008 with ZERO IMPROVEMENT?!?

And they wonder why privatization is the answer to education in America. You don't perform, you don't keep your contract and no union saves your incompetent butt.

Did the teachers pass their reading proficiency tests? Did 30% of students pass the proficiency tests? So it wasn't teachers, and it wasn't students who applied themselves.

Conclusion: You can't blame teachers or students who applied themselves to the task, so YES, teachers earned their money. It must have been governor Walker who stressed 66% of the children out.

With all the glory of success, you must take the hardships and blame as well as the kudos. If they are not responsible for the kids failiing, they are not responsible for them succeeding either, in which case, why need them at all?

Stupid logic...