Are we Starting a Military Space Race?

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    Are we Starting a Military Space Race?
    https://townhall.com/columnists/lore...-race-n2516547
    Lorenzo Ortega -- Starting? When did it stop? The real question is: who’s paying for it now? Space has just come to the forefront because we now recognize how critical Space has become to our life. Civil space technology is now WAY ahead of our military. Strangely this is more a race between US Venture Capitalists and the Russians, Chinese, North Korea and Iran. The military is along for the ride. The Space Race has become one where our commercial companies are now developing and providing capabilities at a price that our military can only dream of and foreign country militaries just read about in shock and wonder if it’s all made up as a press relations stunt, right until they have to block it from the internet of their citizens, like Google maps... How do we stay ahead of the Russians, Chinese, Iranians and North Koreans? We take the commanding lead we have from our civil space, stay out of their way for profits, and we keep America First.


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    IMHO, no we are not starting a Military Space Race. It began some time ago.
    I'm pleased to see that we've finally awakened. As usual America has been sleeping, well, at least for the last eight years. I'm delighted that venture capital is being invested to further space exploration.
    Actually NASA has been encouraging the privatization of space for decades, ever since the ISS started construction, for the simple reason the author pointed out. Private industry with a profit motive can always do whatever your asking of it for less money and waste than the government.
    Maybe I missed it but the author failed to point out the fact that space has already been weaponized by China and Russia if not a few more. The Chinese have already conducted test re: the destruction of satellites. In time of war, they have the ability to start taking out our satellites ahead of time. Thereby crippling our military. Trump is wise and is responding to this, apparently Obama didn't see the need. While he was Fundamentally Transforming America.
     
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    2007 Chinese anti-satellite missile test - Wikipedia
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    On January 11, 2007, China conducted an anti-satellite missile test. A Chinese weather satellite—the FY-1C polar orbit satellite of the Fengyun series, at an altitude of 865 kilometres (537 mi), with a mass of 750 kg —was destroyed by a kinetic kill vehicle traveling with a speed of 8 km/s in the opposite direction (see Head-on engagement).It …
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    Anti-satellite weapon - Wikipedia
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    The first launch of the new anti-satellite missile took place in January 1984. ... approaching its target over time and then exploding a shrapnel warhead close enough to kill it. The missile was launched when a target satellite's ground ... The successful flight test of Russia’s direct ascent anti-satellite missile, known as PL-19 Nudol ...

     
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    Space force is about monitoring (perhaps more likely combating) international financial transactions between foreign nations in a time when our dollar is becoming of little value and at a time when more and more nations are joining the Asian and BRICs banks.

    We're seeing some interesting mergers between nations who are putting satellites in space. Those satellites serve a purpose, most likely to keep their transactions (and currencies used) secure and independent of the failing dollar.

    It should come as no surprise that the US wants to militarize space in this regard.

    Recall that the majority of NSA spying was not on our phone calls, the majority of the NSA spying was on the financial transactions of other nations. And the yresponded. Those nations have since merged in space. Again, those nations are also joing the Asian and BRICS banks.

    This has been going on for a few years, acually. But the war party can't justify militarizing space and interfering with economic transactions of other nations without ''patriotizing'' it to the electorate first.

    As usual, the propaganda to get it going will be cyber-security against those pesky Russians. And, of course, the people will love them for it. lolol.

    WWIII, in my humble view, will be purely digital. Almost silent. I have most of my eletronics in faraday cages just in case the rest of the world doesn't just sit by and tolerate it. lol. I'm a safety guy, so...

    Old Jeeps are also emp proof with just a few parts swaps. Very simple to do. But I digress. Heh heh.
     
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    I certainly hope so ... the last time we had a space race was 50 years ago and it led to a massive leap in space technology that has been stalled ever since it ended.
     
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    China certainly will not stop their space program if we fall behind we are screwed.
     
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    Only a life-form which is able to use - but not to misuse - titanic powers will be able to be a "space-race". Military power is always misuse of power and abortion is an indicator that the human race is only a killer race and not a star traveling race.

    With other words: Human beings, who have in the little finger the might to destroy planets or suns will destroy planets and suns - including their own futures.

     
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    It will be a millennium or more before we travel to the stars, if ever. I wouldn't mind a vacation on the moon just like we were promised back when I was a kid.

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    What good does keeping ones devices in a faraday cage do; when the systems, and infrastructure required to make them useful is destroyed?
     
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    When I grew up I was somehow sure today I will work in a space station or a moon in the orbit of one of our big gas planets Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus or Neptun. And where I am? In Germany in the internet communicating with someone who lives in the United Empire of Trump. :lol:

     
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