Are we free

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    A freind of mine posted a thread on face book about being free.
    And it was intresting to me.
    We are not free in the sense of true freedom .
    From the time of cave men banding together in loose society's we have had to conform to rules mortality and laws tax etc. So we are not really free in the totality of the word.

    Yet Americans have a lot of freedoms and rights not being seen in other nations.

    While we have become to a degree a socialist society we still are far from a true socialist nation which is just a hooe skip and a jump from a communist SOCIETY.

    After we loose certain freedoms and rights they are close to impossible to get back with the spilling of blood in mass.

    We have socialist like cortez hillary and sanders along with many others who would take more and more freedoms from us given the chance.
     
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    I used to think so, until 9/11.....~S~
     
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    911 changed our nation and opnions a great deal no doubt
     
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    There are different types of freedom even as a US citizen which accords you more political and religious freedoms than nearly any other country on Earth.

    For example, if you have extreme indebtedness you are not free at all. You are in a sense a slave to your debt.

    Another example if you have severe health problems then you are not free to explore the wilderness or other pursuits requiring physical strength and stamina.

    So perhaps the most free people in the world might be those individuals who live on their own, off the grid in Alaska. They have political freedom, financial freedom and physical freedom.
     
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    what is freedom to you folks?

    ~S~
     
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    we are only under the illusion of 'freedom'. if martial law was ever imposed, we will know exactly how free we really are.
     
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    What do you consider a 'true socialist nation'? Can you give us a few modern day examples? For example, is Canada a 'true socialist nation'? How about Sweden?
     
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    What is it you want to do but can't?
     
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    Freedom is always situational, with freedom existing while it is practiced. We're always able to do what we want until we can't.

    The greatest degree of freedom is found in a balance of powers. As any group or entity that possesses disproportionate power will strip freedom from those they have power over.
     
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    We are not free, we are all slaves.

    The issue is, who do you serve? Is it other people, God, or yourself?

    The better question is, what provides more satisfaction?
     
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