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    I saw this post on another board and thought I'd share. Every time WMD are brought up, all the libs and dems call Bush a liar, no WMD have been in Iraq since 1993. Are all these people liars too? Now remember, Bush has been in office since 2000, so some of these quotes are after he took office.

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    "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
    President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

    "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
    President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

    "Iraq is a long way from here, but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
    Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.

    "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
    Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

    "We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
    Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

    "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
    Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

    "Hussein has...chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destrution and palaces for his cronies."
    Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

    "There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
    Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

    "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
    Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

    "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
    Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

    "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
    Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

    "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
    Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

    "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
    Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

    "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
    Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

    "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have alway s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
    Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,

    "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
    Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

    "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
    Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

    "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real."
    Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.
     
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    This list is interesting....you have only two quotes between 1998-2000. Everything after 2000 is post 9/11, so the information these people are alluding to came from the Bush CIA. Several of the quotes rely on "intelligence information" this information has since been proven to be incorrect. In 1998, Saddam may well have had these weapons, but it looks like sometime between then and 2003, he got rid of them, because we haven't found squat.
     
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    ...That Dubbyuh's had a woody for Saddam from day one of his administration. And he had to lie through his teeth to get him. Lies are no basis for war, especially a war of agression.
     
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    Huh, I count seven.
    1. President Clinton Feb 4, 1998
    2. President Clinton Feb 17, 1998
    3. Madeline Albright Feb 18, 1998
    4. Sandy Berger Feb 18, 1998
    5. Senators Carl Levin, Tom Dascle, John F. Kerry Oct 9, 1998
    6. Nancy Pelosi Dec 16, 1998
    7. Madeline Albright Nov 10, 1999
     
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    Bzzzzzzz....Count 'em again!
     
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    Show me the quotes where they all agreed to end Hans Blix's inspections and launch a full scale invasion. Remember, Blix said he needed more time.

    Show me the quotes where they said to hell with inspections and diplomacy, let's mow down some Iraqis.

    -Bam
     
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    They were back in Oct. 2002 when the house and senate both voted in a landslide to give authority to Bush to use any means necessary to remove Saddam if he didn't fully comply.
     
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    You just don't get it. Mobilizing the troops outside Iraq was pretty effective and no one was getting killed. The Senate and the House did not declare war on Iraq. I am astounded that you are so deluded. Saddam WAS COOPERATING and the inspections were in process.

    -Bam
     
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    As I stated earlier, forces have been mobilized around Iraq since the first Gulf war, did that do anything to help Saddam abide by the resolutions?

    Iraq was playing cat and mouse games the whole time, even Blix said so himself in february. They were only playing stall tactics.

    You are the delusional fool.
     
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    Nobody has said the quotes where lies.
     

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