Are the Democrats the new Communist party?

[daveman]

Communism ultimately seeks the dissolution of the State.

In theory. However, Communism always immediately devolves into a statist oligarchy.

The more you know...

 

[Mr.Nick]

Communism ultimately seeks the dissolution of the State.

In theory. However, Communism always immediately devolves into a statist oligarchy.

The more you know...

Not in theory, in practice.

History has proven it.

 

[daveman]

If you're a progressive, you're an authoritarian and authoritarians are generally communists.

Generally? I don't know about that. There is plenty of authoritarianism to go around on the right as well.

Yes...

What Mao Zedong said about liberalism

革命的集体组织中的自由主义是十分有害的。它是一种腐蚀剂，使团结涣散，关系松懈，工作消极，意见分歧。它使革命队伍失掉严密的组织和纪律，政策不能贯彻到底，党的组织和党所领导的群众发生隔离。这是一种严重的恶劣倾向。

Liberalism is extremely harmful in a revolutionary collective. It is a corrosive which eats away unity, undermines cohesion, causes apathy and creates dissension.

It robs the revolutionary ranks of compact organization and strict discipline, prevents policies from being carried through and alienates the Party organizations from the masses which the Party leads. It is an extremely bad tendency.
Combat Liberalism

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

Mao was talking about Classical Liberalism, which seeks to maximize personal liberty. Today's liberalism is about the collective, not individuals.

That's why the Soviet Union infiltrated leftist American groups in the '60s and '70s. They blended right in.

 

[elvis]

Communism ultimately seeks the dissolution of the State.

In theory. However, Communism always immediately devolves into a statist oligarchy.

The more you know...

Not in theory, in practice.

History has proven it.

When has communism been implemented?

 

[daveman]

No. However, one might offer a much more credible argument that the Republican Party has moved to the far right and has become a corporatist entity while adopting the hate and fear tactics and big lie strategy of one of the most evil empires of the 20th Century.

"Republicans want to kill old people!"

"Republicans hate all immigrants!"

"Republicans are all racists!"

There's a reason why Lenin is thought to have called American leftists "useful idiots".

 

[Mr.Nick]

In theory. However, Communism always immediately devolves into a statist oligarchy.

The more you know...

Not in theory, in practice.

History has proven it.

When has communism been implemented?

Where the fuck do you want me to start? Lenin? or we can talk shit about Mao or Stalin..

How about modern day North Kora or Cuba???

I can spit more....

 

[daveman]

Modern History:

Communism ends in millions Dead



Always does

"That's because America always interfered! When WE'RE in charge, it'll work GREAT!"

/American progressives

 

[Charles_Main]

Are the Democrats the new Communist party?

Um no that would be the American Communist Party.

I admit the Dem Party has been over run by the Far left, but I would not call em communists. Just misguided Socialist who think they are the ones smart enough to finally get it right.

 

[Charles_Main]

In theory. However, Communism always immediately devolves into a statist oligarchy.

The more you know...

Not in theory, in practice.

History has proven it.

When has communism been implemented?

Communism as written on paper has never been implemented. Precisely because it requires no deviation. Everyone must be a good little communist for true communism to work. Which means you need a large powerful State apparatus to enforce being good little communists.

Plus the Bureaucrats that Administer the government must be uncorrupted and faithful to true communism. Which of course they have never been.

So basically Communism in the true sense of the word will never exist. Because in order to achieve it you must force everyone to comply. You end up with Totalitarianism. You end up with the Soviet union, or a best a nation that morphs into a mesh of Totalitarian communism, and capitalism.(China)

Communism can only exist on a small scale, on a voluntary basis. Any attempt to implement it on a large scale is doomed to end in Totalitarian Oppressive Government. Period.

 

[Contumacious]

Are the Democrats the new Communist party?

They are part of it. But actually, the DEMOPUBLICANS are.

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[daveman]

Not in theory, in practice.

History has proven it.

When has communism been implemented?

Communism as written on paper has never been implemented. Precisely because it requires no deviation. Everyone must be a good little communist for true communism to work. Which means you need a large powerful State apparatus to enforce being good little communists.

Plus the Bureaucrats that Administer the government must be uncorrupted and faithful to true communism. Which of course they have never been.

So basically Communism in the true sense of the word will never exist. Because in order to achieve it you must force everyone to comply. You end up with Totalitarianism. You end up with the Soviet union, or a best a nation that morphs into a mesh of Totalitarian communism, and capitalism.(China)

Communism can only exist on a small scale, on a voluntary basis. Any attempt to implement it on a large scale is doomed to end in Totalitarian Oppressive Government. Period.

Indeed. What dooms Communism to failure, like all leftist Utopian schemes, is that it does not take human nature into consideration. That's because leftism does not see people as individuals but as a collective.

 

[Rodack]

Democrat Baby Communists are embarrassed about being communists


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