Are republicans opposed to the leftwing simply because they don't understand it?

[The Rabbi]

Republicans seem to only use labels such as "socialism", "communism", or "facism" in regards to the left. They make outrageous claims like Obama and democrats want everyone to abandon their jobs and live off welfare. They think liberals wants to end capitalism as we know it.

None of this is based in reality but they believe it anyway. They just believe what they want to believe. Do they even understand what liberalism stands for? I think if they did understand it, they would embrace it.

When will facts permeate their stupidity bubbles?

Now... At some point you need to come to understand that reasonable people, who lent you the benefit of the doubt in opening your thread, did so in hopes that you were going to explain why Republicans are wrong.

Yet ya didn't.

Which, in case ya missed it, is YOU answering your own question.

Thats what makes it yet another Billy troll thread failure.

 

[zeke]

You cannot debate liars, or the deliberately ignorant.

You are so fucking stupid you think people "debate" in this format? LMAO What a fucking idiot.

 

[Ame®icano]

Republicans seem to only use labels such as "socialism", "communism", or "facism" in regards to the left. They make outrageous claims like Obama and democrats want everyone to abandon their jobs and live off welfare. They think liberals wants to end capitalism as we know it.

None of this is based in reality but they believe it anyway. They just believe what they want to believe. Do they even understand what liberalism stands for? I think if they did understand it, they would embrace it.

When will facts permeate their stupidity bubbles?

Liberals today are not liberals of the 19th century that stand for small government and free market. Between then and now, the enemies of liberalism succeeded by stealing its name. Classical liberals believed that function of the government is to do few things that couldn't be done by individuals or private market by voluntary association, such as police, court and defense.

Today's liberals are simply progressive statists that wants to control every aspect of your life, or what you can buy, feel or say. They share the same ideas with socialists and communists but they just use the name that is to Americans acceptable, such as liberals or democrats. So it's not that people on the right don't know who liberals are, because they do, people on the right are just calling them exactly what they are.

 

[zeke]

everything you buy will go up, it's just a tax on everyone who makes more than the 3% who work for minimum wage.

Prove it.
You think this is the first time a discussion about raising the MW has ever occurred in this country?
You think people like you right wingers didn't make EXACTLY the same arguments then?

That means there is a history of increasing the MW. Which in turn means there is a history of results being what you claim.

So prove that when MW increased that prices for EVERYTHING else increased PURELY AS THE RESULT OF A MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE.
Should be a piece of cake for an economist like you. Right?

There is a history of the dollar being worth less and less too.

Does that make it right?

You believe you answered my question? Fuck you are stupid.

 

[RKMBrown]

Republicans seem to only use labels such as "socialism", "communism", or "facism" in regards to the left. They make outrageous claims like Obama and democrats want everyone to abandon their jobs and live off welfare. They think liberals wants to end capitalism as we know it.

None of this is based in reality but they believe it anyway. They just believe what they want to believe. Do they even understand what liberalism stands for? I think if they did understand it, they would embrace it.

When will facts permeate their stupidity bubbles?

No. Republicans are opposed to the left because nearly everyone and everything the left stands for is a PIECE OF SHIT. Sure occasionally they get something right, but even a blind squirrel gets a nut every once in a while.

 

[Gadawg73]

Less than 3.5 million are on minimum wage, 4% of the work force.
Raise the MW to $15 a hour and multiply the gain of $7 a hour by the 3.5 million workers. The total gain of all MW workers would be 24 million dollars a hour. Total wages at $15 a hour for all MW workers would be around $52 million dollars a hour.
If the minimum wage worker spent ALL of that 52 million dollars ALL of them combined make in 1 hour of work it represents 1.2% of ALL the Gross Domestic Product of one hour's worth of work. For the layman, IOW someone that does not understand 3 grade math, at $15 a hour there is littl to no economic benefit to the economy to spend much time raising wages for low and no skilled labor.
As a former athlete, minimum wage earner and current owner of 3 businesses (none of which employ MW workers), how much playing time do players get and how much should a worker be paid?
Pay is always commensurate with the skills required for the job, same as playing time between the lines
Should a 16 year old saying "do you want fries with this" make $15 a hour, same wage as a certified nurse assistant? Raising the MW puts pressure on other low paying entry jobs with some skills. Most all government mandates increase the cost of doing business which always raises prices.
What does a single mother's maternal status have to do with her rate of pay? Nothing! Unfortunately the dumb masses demand this type of government. "The poor, OH WHOA'S ME"
I support safety nets helping the poor and the kids but making economic policy for the country based on emotion? That is what is happening and fools want it and fools offer it.

Most MW workers are high school and college kids. If you have a kid and are single and making minimum wage, DO NOT HAVE ANOTHER KID!!! If you are a family making the minimum wage DO NOT HAVE KIDS UNTIL YOU CAN AFFORD THEM. If you are single and making the MW and it is not enough $$$, get 2 jobs. Nights, weekends. Go TO WORK.
If you still believe raising the MW benefits the economy and helps workers get ahead ignore the above. You are a minimum wage worker, a socialist, someone that does not know 3rd math or all the above or all of the above.

 

[zeke]

No. Republicans are opposed to the left because nearly everyone and everything the left stands for is a PIECE OF SHIT. Sure occasionally they get something right, but even a blind squirrel gets a nut every once in a while.

Republicans are opposed to the left cause that's all they've got. Opposition.
It's pretty easy to be opposed to any idea the other side puts up. Lots harder to come up with ideas of your own.
Which has been the failing of the Repubs for a long time.

NO good ideas. Everything the Republicans do get through, fails. Some one list a Republican idea that worked.
Why in the fuck ANYONE other than another Republican would believe ANYTHING a Republican says is beyond me. Earnest liars, everyone of them

 

[Roadrunner]

No. Republicans are opposed to the left because nearly everyone and everything the left stands for is a PIECE OF SHIT. Sure occasionally they get something right, but even a blind squirrel gets a nut every once in a while.

Republicans are opposed to the left cause that's all they've got. Opposition.
It's pretty easy to be opposed to any idea the other side puts up. Lots harder to come up with ideas of your own.
Which has been the failing of the Repubs for a long time.

NO good ideas. Everything the Republicans do get through, fails. Some one list a Republican idea that worked.
Why in the fuck ANYONE other than another Republican would believe ANYTHING a Republican says is beyond me. Earnest liars, everyone of them

You sound scared your benefits are coming to an end soon.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Oh that bad bad Obama.
Mk kids (20, 24) have health care under my wife's plan (bad bad bad)
My oldest with cervical cancer can't be denied health care coverage with her new employer (bad bad bad)
I lost so much fucking money in investments and real estate values under George Bush that I thought I might never recover. Instead, under Obama, I got it all back plus. (bad bad bad)
Obama has been able to get the countries in the ME to take on their own home grown terrorists instead of sending 50 thousand of our troops to the ME. (bad bad bad)
Obama has spent on a yearly basis the least amount of money since who? Truman? (bad bad bad)
Corporate profits roaring. (bad bad bad)

I could go on. But it's just to bad that you Obama haters are such poor people that you didn't enjoy or benefit from ANY of the good things that happened under Obama's watch.

Ah well, what should I expect from a bunch of right wing haters?
Carry on with your Obama Derangement Syndrome.

btw, one thing is for sure. Had it been a Democratic President who had screwed the pooch like Bush did, and a Republican President had been elected and oversaw the exact same recovery that Obama has had, you right wingers would consider that hypothetical President the greatest President EVER Better than Reagan.. LMAO. And you know I am correct.

everything you buy will go up, it's just a tax on everyone who makes more than the 3% who work for minimum wage.

Prove it.
You think this is the first time a discussion about raising the MW has ever occurred in this country?
You think people like you right wingers didn't make EXACTLY the same arguments then?

That means there is a history of increasing the MW. Which in turn means there is a history of results being what you claim.

So prove that when MW increased that prices for EVERYTHING else increased PURELY AS THE RESULT OF A MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE.
Should be a piece of cake for an economist like you. Right?

zeke we can not Absolutely prove it just like the ultra left can not prove high taxes of the 50s created wealth or man made climate change is a fact, to many Variables to consider. But we can point to the 81s in my case when I started working , I worked for $3.35 part time at arbys, went to $6.00 bucks an hour in 83, 85 was making I think $14 at my plastic jobs
You started at what ? A $1.75 minimum wage?

Zeke you moved up by your skills and learning and getting better and better.

So why do you want to Artificially raise wages? For what purpose?

To screw the middle class?
Damn zeke if you were Really has street smarts and you would understand we live in a global economy now, 50% of Companies plus are small competing against the elite, the big boys, the 1% you cant screw the small Companies because That's what the 1% wants

 

[zeke]

Less than 3.5 million are on minimum wage, 4% of the work force.

Most powerful group of workers in the entire work force. More powerful than CEO's. It's the MW worker who get a small increase in their MW that can actually bring down the entire US economy. Right?

How did we ever let a bunch of poorly educated MW workers get so much power? Better hope those MW workers don't find out how much power they have.

 

[RKMBrown]

No. Republicans are opposed to the left because nearly everyone and everything the left stands for is a PIECE OF SHIT. Sure occasionally they get something right, but even a blind squirrel gets a nut every once in a while.

Republicans are opposed to the left cause that's all they've got. Opposition.
It's pretty easy to be opposed to any idea the other side puts up. Lots harder to come up with ideas of your own.
Which has been the failing of the Repubs for a long time.

NO good ideas. Everything the Republicans do get through, fails. Some one list a Republican idea that worked.
Why in the fuck ANYONE other than another Republican would believe ANYTHING a Republican says is beyond me. Earnest liars, everyone of them

It's easy to have ideas when they involve spending someone else's money.

 

[chikenwing]

Food stamps have doubled in 8 years with fewer restrictions and you claim Obama is a centrist. NO asset means test on ACA, folks with a million or 3 in the bank can qualify with low income, and Obama is a centrist. Roll me one out of your bag. Obama grows socialist programs.

Oh and had Obama been successful in raising the minimum wage, far less people would be eligible for food stamps. You didn't know that did you?

Just for Fed workers,not the rest of the country,so that a big fail

 

[zeke]

[QUOTE="bear513, post: 11079823, member: 36770"]zeke we can not Absolutely prove it[/QUOTE]


Honesty???????????????
Dude, I know you don't care for English and grammar (education is not a Repub thing) and I understand that.
But you made a declarative statement.
That means you need to be able to prove what you say. That is what gives you credibility and makes your responses worth reading.

If you can't do that (prove what you claim) then you might not want to make those kinds of statements. Makes you and your kind look bad. Which doesn't bother me at all. Still, try writing something like that and begin it with: IMO
(in my opinion) raising the MW is a tax on everybody yada yada yada..

Then you won't be made to look bad by people like me. I will know it's opinion only. And even I won't attack your opinion. Just what you state as "fact".

 

[Gadawg73]

No. Republicans are opposed to the left because nearly everyone and everything the left stands for is a PIECE OF SHIT. Sure occasionally they get something right, but even a blind squirrel gets a nut every once in a while.

Republicans are opposed to the left cause that's all they've got. Opposition.
It's pretty easy to be opposed to any idea the other side puts up. Lots harder to come up with ideas of your own.
Which has been the failing of the Repubs for a long time.

NO good ideas. Everything the Republicans do get through, fails. Some one list a Republican idea that worked.
Why in the fuck ANYONE other than another Republican would believe ANYTHING a Republican says is beyond me. Earnest liars, everyone of them[/QUOTE)

I am not opposed to you taking less of my $$ to fund your utopian dreams.

 

[zeke]

would understand we live in a global economy now, 50% of Companies plus are small competing against the elite, the big boys, the 1% you cant screw the small Companies because That's what the 1% wants

You need a big pay cut dude. You work in a "global economy". Is that what you are saying?
Those MW workers have all this ability to destroy our competitiveness in the global economy, imagine how bad you are hurting us with your 70k a year earnings.

Right? It's a global thing. There are plastic injection machine techs working in other countries doing exactly the same as you for a lot less money. If you would take a big pay cut, your company would be more competitive.

Will you do that for the company and the global economy or not?

 

[zeke]

It's easy to have ideas when they involve spending someone else's money.

Oh that is so fucking deep.

Is that really the best you got? Of course it is.

 

[RKMBrown]

It's easy to have ideas when they involve spending someone else's money.

Oh that is so fucking deep.

Is that really the best you got? Of course it is.

Why try to make it more complicated than it is?

 

[zeke]

It's easy to have ideas when they involve spending someone else's money.

Oh that is so fucking deep.

Is that really the best you got? Of course it is.

Why try to make it more complicated than it is?

Dude I am sure you expressed the deepest thought your pea brain is capable of. And of course, simple minds like yours need to grasp as what seems to be a simple solution. If only if were as simple as your mind.

 

[Ame®icano]

It's because we understand it all too well. So does anyone else familiar with history.

I haven't seen this post before I replied. You explained it more efficiently.

There is thing called "discipline in constant dealings". Who doesn't know what is it, Google it.

Over years, liberals gained this reputation of shameless and compulsive liars. Every time they got caught in the lie and people abandon them, they pull back, regroup and change name, then come out again with the same tactics. American voter recognized them for what they are and is now in abandoning phase...

 

[ClosedCaption]

Food stamps have doubled in 8 years with fewer restrictions and you claim Obama is a centrist. NO asset means test on ACA, folks with a million or 3 in the bank can qualify with low income, and Obama is a centrist. Roll me one out of your bag. Obama grows socialist programs.

Oh and had Obama been successful in raising the minimum wage, far less people would be eligible for food stamps. You didn't know that did you?

He knew that but republicans make storms then complain about the rain

They say no to raising the Minimum wage AND complain about the number of welfare

They support Citizens United AND complain about Money Influencing Politics

They defend Police abuse AND complain about a "Police State" and Rights being Violated.


Its a perfect circle of victimhood