Are Republican women who take birth control considered "sluts" by the GOP?

[drsmith1072]

OK, so who is demanding that the catholic CHURCH provide them free of charge??

You drones need to pull your heads from your asses every so often, just so you can see what's going on in the real world.

So no valid response from you. Got it.

Please back up that claim.

Let me google that for you

So nothing specific or real to substantiate your claims. Got it.

Are conservatives who get their viagra covered by insurance leeches??

Only if they expect a church or other unwilling party to pay for it.

more with the church bs and nothing real here either.

Do you have anything real to offer or are your baseless opinions and deliberate misinterpretations all that you have?

 

[drsmith1072]

Desperate to keep the topic on birth control. You really are scared of talking about the real issues aren't you?

Republicans made this an issue when they tried to make the focus "freedom of religion" so it's funny how afraid they are to talk about it now that the focus has changed and it has now backfired on them.

Obama attacked the Catholic church with it 1st.

You liberals so STUPID.

Actually NO. The church was exempt from the get go.

Your attempts to equate a catholic church with a catholic institution of higher education only serves to make you look ridiculous.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What did you guys think democrats were going to talk about, Obama's annual trillion dollar deficits, first ever downgrade and record unemployment, foreclosures, poverty and food stamps?

 

[drsmith1072]

What did you guys think democrats were going to talk about, Obama's annual trillion dollar deficits,

which republicans have contributed to and done nothing about. Ryan's budget plan wouldn't have balanced the budget until around 2040 so the debt would still be going up and the debt ceiling would still have to be raised. So that isn't really something that the right wants to talk about either.

first ever downgrade

based on actions or inactions of republicans congress not obama. so please continue.

and record unemployment,

Damn If only those job creators were spending the millions of dollars they are wasting in ads for republicans to create jobs imagine where the numbers would be then?

foreclosures,

Yep the bubble bursting was all obama's fault. BTW, that is sarcasm.

poverty and food stamps?

You do know that poverty and food stamps existed before obama don't you?

Oh and back to those job creators who have had those taxcuts for over 10 years and haven't done much with them to create jobs. And don't give me that "uncertainty" line of BS there is NEVER 100% certainty in business and there is always risk. Furthermore if they don't know what is in the healthcare bill by now then they have only themselves to blame.

 

[Si modo]

What did you guys think democrats were going to talk about, Obama's annual trillion dollar deficits,

which republicans have contributed to and done nothing about. Ryan's budget plan wouldn't have balanced the budget until around 2040 so the debt would still be going up and the debt ceiling would still have to be raised. So that isn't really something that the right wants to talk about either.

first ever downgrade

based on actions or inactions of republicans congress not obama. so please continue.



Damn If only those job creators were spending the millions of dollars they are wasting in ads for republicans to create jobs imagine where the numbers would be then?

foreclosures,

Yep the bubble bursting was all obama's fault. BTW, that is sarcasm.

poverty and food stamps?

You do know that poverty and food stamps existed before obama don't you?

Oh and back to those job creators who have had those taxcuts for over 10 years and haven't done much with them to create jobs. And don't give me that "uncertainty" line of BS there is NEVER 100% certainty in business and there is always risk. Furthermore if they don't know what is in the healthcare bill by now then they have only themselves to blame.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFvujknrBuE]The Blues Brothers - Jake's Excuses - YouTube[/ame]

 

[boilermaker55]

I doubt many Republican women expect their contraceptives to be paid for by anyone but themselves.

That really is the issue isn't it? Nice post Si modo.

Yes, just like Bachman didnt take farm subsidy ( a grant by a government to a private person or company to assist an enterprise deemed advantageous to the public )
So I really don't think one can go there.

 

[theHawk]

Rick Santorum's wife lived with another man for 6 years and never had a baby.

Rush has been married 4 times and never had a baby.

One has to assume these wives are taking birth control or have taken birth control.

Could they be considered "sluts" by today's right wing?

If not, then why not?

Are they asking to get paid for their behavior by taxpayers?

 

[Uncensored2008]

If I am wrong then enlighten me. Why did he call her a prostitute?

Ask him.

But unless you can show that he said "medication causes women to be prostitutes" then you're just making shit up - lying like a fucking democrat.

Rush argued that because she wants insurance to cover the cost of birth control that she "wants to be paid to have sex"

Yeah?

She is asking for the Catholic Church to pay for her to have sex.

and then he called her a "slut" and a "prostitute" so what did I make up??

Pretty much everything.

 

[jillian]

I doubt many Republican women expect their contraceptives to be paid for by anyone but themselves.

That really is the issue isn't it? Nice post Si modo.

Yes, just like Bachman didnt take farm subsidy ( a grant by a government to a private person or company to assist an enterprise deemed advantageous to the public )
So I really don't think one can go there.

you forgot about bachmann's husband being paid by federal funds to pray away the gay.

 

[Uncensored2008]

you forgot about bachmann's husband being paid by federal funds to pray away the gay.

I wish he could pray away the lying skanks of the DNC....

Standard Disclaimer: I wouldn't pay him for it, it doesn't work.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Desperate to keep the topic on birth control. You really are scared of talking about the real issues aren't you?

Republicans made this an issue when they tried to make the focus "freedom of religion" so it's funny how afraid they are to talk about it now that the focus has changed and it has now backfired on them.

When did the focus change? I have yet to see anyone anywhere, not just on this board, articulate an argument that in any way makes sense when they try to say that me not paying for something for someone else is somehow denying it to them. Want to give it a shot?

 

[drsmith1072]

What did you guys think democrats were going to talk about, Obama's annual trillion dollar deficits,

which republicans have contributed to and done nothing about. Ryan's budget plan wouldn't have balanced the budget until around 2040 so the debt would still be going up and the debt ceiling would still have to be raised. So that isn't really something that the right wants to talk about either.



based on actions or inactions of republicans congress not obama. so please continue.



Damn If only those job creators were spending the millions of dollars they are wasting in ads for republicans to create jobs imagine where the numbers would be then?




Yep the bubble bursting was all obama's fault. BTW, that is sarcasm.

poverty and food stamps?

You do know that poverty and food stamps existed before obama don't you?

Oh and back to those job creators who have had those taxcuts for over 10 years and haven't done much with them to create jobs. And don't give me that "uncertainty" line of BS there is NEVER 100% certainty in business and there is always risk. Furthermore if they don't know what is in the healthcare bill by now then they have only themselves to blame.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFvujknrBuE]The Blues Brothers - Jake's Excuses - YouTube[/ame]

Thanks for showing that as usual you have nothing real or valid to offer to the discussion.

What did I say that was WRONG?? How is it wrong? Do you have the ability to debate or is posting clips all that you have to offer?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Only those who demand the Catholic Church provide them free of charge.

Are dumbocrats who demand free birth control considered leeches?

They are by anyone with a brain...

OK, so who is demanding that the catholic CHURCH provide them free of charge?? Please back up that claim.


Are conservatives who get their viagra covered by insurance leeches??

How much do Georgetown students pay for insurance through the school? Do you really believe that any significant portion of the students at one of the nation's elite law schools actually has trouble coughing up $100 a year for birth control? What does Viagra and contraception have in common, other than the left's fascination with sex?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

What's the "real" issue? Religious freedom?

Yeppers

That's been killed with the realization that Georgetown offers contraceptive coverage to its faculty.

Except for the minor detail that no one has yet proven that Goergetown actually provides contraception coverage to employees since it is not subject to any of the various state requirements that have employers cover contraception with copays. If you took your head out of your ass long enough to count to 1 you would know that no state regulations cover the District of Columbia.

Want to say something else to prove you are an idiot?

Is the "real" issue who pays for it? That's been killed by the wing-nuts who are advocating that students get someone else to pay for their contraception at free clinics, as opposed to them paying for health insurance that would cover it.

The real issue is who Fluke, and you, want to pay for it. Seeing that it is readily available for about $100 a year if you are forced to pay for it out of pocket, and for a lot less if you go to a clinic, why should insurance cover it? Can you actually explain that, or are you simply going to sputter about me twisting your words again?

Is the "real" issue the pretty little bunnies? Okay, you might have me there. The bunnies are pretty. But relying on the lucky rabbit's foot is not exactly the most effective way to deal with preventative health care.

Almost funny. It would have been funny if you had actually made sense at any point in your post, but it just looks pathetic tacked onto the lies you threw out here.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Simple. They do not ask for you to subsidize their birth control.

And who is asking for anyone to subsidize their birth control? The latest arguments coming from the right wingers on this board are that free contraception can be had at planned parenthood. Meanwhile, Fluke is advocating for a health insurance mandate whereby individuals would pay for their own insurance, and the insurance would cover contraception.

It's not Fluke who's arguing that students' contraception should be paid for by someone else.

excuse me? Since you keep arguing, quite erroneously, that people who pay insurance premiums are actually paying for other people who go to the doctor, how is getting contraception through an insurance company not asking other people to pay for your contraception? Do you really expect to get away with arguing two opposite positions just because you are too stupid to see the disconnect?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

An employer who has no moral objection to offering birth control.

Apparently Georgetown University has no moral objection to offering birth control either. Because the insurance it offers to its faculty covers it. It just denies it to its students. Maybe Georgetown just has a moral objection to children being born after wedlock. Who knows?

Prove it. Link to their actual insurance policy and highlight the part where it says it covers contraception.

I won't hold my breath.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Rick Santorum notwithstanding, I suspect there are a few rw's who indulge in recreational sex, sex without the intention of procreation. But maybe not.

Uncensored2008When has that happened? WHO did that? WHO has even mentioned it as a possibility?

Not fluke, not any Dem or lib.

Only fatso lushbo ad as we all know, he lies for a living.

Fluke testifying before Congress that the Catholic university she attends should cover contraceptives for students is not asking the Catholic Church to pay for contraceptives?

Do they take in tutition to cover the cost of running their university which is a separate entity from the CHURCH.
It is a catholic institution that serves to educate it's students for a fee and also requires that they buy a student health insurance plan. It is not a catholic church.

How does them taking money from students change the fact that it is run by an organization that exist to promote the belief in Jesus Christ and to expand knowledge of his creation? If you go to a church yard sale and someone talks to you about Jesus do you scream to the government because they offended you? The Constitution of the United States specifically forbids the government from defining what is, and is not, a church. If a church sets up a hospital it is still a church. If a church sets up a soup kitchen it is still a church. If a church sets up a school it is still a church. (I actually have a Supreme Court decision to back up that last one.) By extension, if a church sets up a university it is still a church. In fact, all of the Ivy League schools were set up by churches, and the government never had a problem with that until this year, now you want to jump on the bandwagon simply because you see a way to change the definition of church.

It ain't going to happen.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Fluke testifying before Congress that the Catholic university she attends should cover contraceptives for students is not asking the Catholic Church to pay for contraceptives?

No, it's not. It's asking the church to stay out of the way and stop preventing students from buying insurance that does cover contraception. Georgetown University offers health insurance options to its faculty that include contraceptive coverage. Why not the students? The whole religious argument has no merit or standing, considering that the University is already doing what you allegedly claim is against their morals.

Goergetown University does not cover contraception in its employee health care plan, and not offering it to students in no way gets in anyone's way.

Tell me something, if you can be honest. Since rights suddenly impel people to pay for things that they never had to pay for before, can an observant Jew demand that his employer pay for Kosher food in the break room even though that employer never paid for food before? If not, can you explain why?

 

[drsmith1072]

If I am wrong then enlighten me. Why did he call her a prostitute?

Ask him.

But unless you can show that he said "medication causes women to be prostitutes" then you're just making shit up - lying like a fucking democrat.

Did I actually say what you quoted?? NOPE so you LIED in order to call me a liar. LOL

here is my exact and REAL quote

Since rush believes that having insurance pay for the medication promotes sex and makes her a prostitute does he feel the same way about viagra and other such drugs when they are covered by insurance?

So why did you LIE?

Rush argued that because she wants insurance to cover the cost of birth control that she "wants to be paid to have sex"

Yeah?

She is asking for the Catholic Church to pay for her to have sex.

and then he called her a "slut" and a "prostitute" so what did I make up??

Pretty much everything.

So even though you agree with my interpretation with your "yeah" and then make your own argument that "She is asking for the Catholic Church to pay for her to have sex." which is basically the same thing rush said and which i pointed out that he said you still claim I made up "pretty much everything"?? Really??

LOL And that is coming from a hack like you who makes up a phrase puts it in quotes and attributes it to me so he can call me a liar over something I never said.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Okay, so you support college students having their contraception subsidized by the tax payer.

Doesn't matter if he supports it, just like it doesn't matter if you support the US bombing Iran, taxes already go where they go. At least make an honest argument, for a change.

Hmmm, I see your point. Maybe we should cut costs. Maybe we should stop using tax money to subsidize contraception. But what should we do, then, about all the people who won't have contraception? Oh, I know, how about we have that new health care law include a mandate where people would have to buy their own insurance that would cover contraception also? That'll do it!

All what people who do not have contraception? Can you give me a list? My guess is that you could count the entire number of women in the US who do not have contraception of some type available to them on the fingers of one hand and have enough fingers left over to count to 5. Care to take me up on it?

By the way, how will shifting how it is paid for actually cut costs? Contraception, unlike most medical care, has been going steadily down on cost over the years because insurance doesn't cover it. Hiding how much it costs, and adding more people in between the consumer and the manufacturer, is not going to reduce costs one iota.

I bet you know that though, and just think everyone else is too stupid to notice. As usual, you were wrong.

Well, if we're using taxpayer money to subsidize contraception, why would insurance rates rise? Hey, do you think that rising insurance rates might have nothing to do whatsoever to this discussion?

How would insurance rates not rise?