emilynghiem
Constitutionalist / Universalist
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Seriously C_Clayton_Jones
I would REALLY like to understand your mindset, and starting assumptions, that could explain why you don't feel anything is forced on anyone with these ACA mandates.
My guess is that you believe the costs are out there anyway, so "forcing people to buy insurance" is a given, they would pay those costs anyway so this isn't "adding" anything they aren't already paying for.
is that close?
So if that is what you are thinking, that is like telling someone
well, God made all the world and all the knowledge and science and everything in it.
You don't really have free will, you just think you do.
So it doesn't matter what you do, you have to follow God anyway, because God is in charge of all things, and even created you, and knows all your life in advance.
So you might as well be forced to follow God, and pay into Christian programs, because that's who has to do all the work anyway.
Christians are healing the sick and addicted in prisons, and paying for all the extra health care, homeless, hungry and orphaned.
Since there isn't enough money to cover the need,
you are going to be required to pay into a fund to cover more of these programs
SINCE THESE COSTS ARE INCURRED ANYWAY.
Before, you had a choice whether to pay into charity or not.
But after this bill, now you are REQUIRED to pay into a charity fund,
or else we will deduct money from your account and pay into a fund ANYWAY.
This isn't perfectly the same, C_Clayton_Jones
But if the shoe was on the other foot, and you were now REQUIRED to pay into prolife Christian health programs, instead of having the FREE CHOICE to pay or not,
OR ELSE YOU WOULD GET FINED BY GOVT
wouldn't you say you were being FORCED to do something you
weren't FORCED to do before?
Does this example (although imperfect) help demonstrate what it feels like
if you didn't agree with the choices that were now required to avoid a fine?
I would REALLY like to understand your mindset, and starting assumptions, that could explain why you don't feel anything is forced on anyone with these ACA mandates.
My guess is that you believe the costs are out there anyway, so "forcing people to buy insurance" is a given, they would pay those costs anyway so this isn't "adding" anything they aren't already paying for.
is that close?
So if that is what you are thinking, that is like telling someone
well, God made all the world and all the knowledge and science and everything in it.
You don't really have free will, you just think you do.
So it doesn't matter what you do, you have to follow God anyway, because God is in charge of all things, and even created you, and knows all your life in advance.
So you might as well be forced to follow God, and pay into Christian programs, because that's who has to do all the work anyway.
Christians are healing the sick and addicted in prisons, and paying for all the extra health care, homeless, hungry and orphaned.
Since there isn't enough money to cover the need,
you are going to be required to pay into a fund to cover more of these programs
SINCE THESE COSTS ARE INCURRED ANYWAY.
Before, you had a choice whether to pay into charity or not.
But after this bill, now you are REQUIRED to pay into a charity fund,
or else we will deduct money from your account and pay into a fund ANYWAY.
This isn't perfectly the same, C_Clayton_Jones
But if the shoe was on the other foot, and you were now REQUIRED to pay into prolife Christian health programs, instead of having the FREE CHOICE to pay or not,
OR ELSE YOU WOULD GET FINED BY GOVT
wouldn't you say you were being FORCED to do something you
weren't FORCED to do before?
Does this example (although imperfect) help demonstrate what it feels like
if you didn't agree with the choices that were now required to avoid a fine?