Are people this dumb or

You know what would make for a good thread...

Who do USMB members think are the greatest heroes of all time?
When God handed out brains you thought he said rains, then you claude your way to the bottom of society. :slap:
Good thing I don't give a van Damme.
You clever little fucker. :slap:
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History "literacy" is falling at most colleges and universities as are most of the core subjects that used to be required to graduate: composition, U.S. government or history, economics, literature, college-level math, science and intermediate-level foreign language. Many who still require at least some of these subjects teach to the test which literally means students learn very little concerning those subjects.
Take that and the fact that relatively few major in history or sociology let alone minor in those two subjects and it's not surprising students have a skewed view.
Here's an interesting tidbit:

History Literacy Failing Among American Students Study Faults Colleges Lack Of Core Subject Requirements SLIDESHOW

In an accompanying study, GfK Roper issued a multiple choice survey to 300 college graduates in an effort to gauge their American history literacy. The results were not very encouraging, seemingly echoing the findings of two viral videos from earlier this year that suggested students do not possess an adequate understanding of U.S. history and current political figures.
 
are they just regurgitating the stewpud they are taught?

Guess Who College Students Think Is More of a Villain Than Lenin Stalin and Mao


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Albert Einstein? Albert is the number 1 hero of all time?

good god, this makes me want to tell my kids to not go to college.
I don't believe it.

But that is beside the point that "yes" "people are that dumb"

I work with the public, and they are.
are they just regurgitating the stewpud they are taught?

Guess Who College Students Think Is More of a Villain Than Lenin Stalin and Mao


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Albert Einstein? Albert is the number 1 hero of all time?

good god, this makes me want to tell my kids to not go to college.
I don't believe it.

But that is beside the point that "yes" "people are that dumb"

I work with the public, and they are.
well if you can show me this is bullshit, I'll ask for the thread to be taken down.
You're right, I spoke too soon, because I thought this poll only polled American colleges and universities. When you factor in cross cultural differences it makes sense.

What it does not support are American right wing political notions that college doesn't teach people anything of value. This is to be expected when the strongest demographic the Republican base has is white men without college degrees. It's no wonder they'd be resentful of people who went to college because college graduates tend to make more money that people without college degrees

The World History Survey (WHS) involving 6,902 university students in 37 countries evaluating 40 figures from world history.

The highest consensus across cultures involved scientific innovators, with Einstein having the most positive evaluation overall.

Peaceful humanitarians like Mother Theresa and Gandhi followed.

There was much less cross-cultural consistency in the evaluation of negative figures, led by Hitler, Osama bin Laden, and Saddam Hussein.

Secular and Religious Idealists were overwhelmingly prevalent in Christian countries.

Political Realists were common in Muslim and Asian countries.

The countries were Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Bulgaria, Canada, China, Colombia, Fiji, France, Germany, Hong Kong, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Italy, Japan, Malaysia, Mauritius, Mexico, Netherlands, Norway, New Zealand, Pakistan, Peru, Philippines, Portugal, Russia, Singapore, South Korea, Spain, Switzerland, Taiwan, Tunisia, UK, and USA.

PLOS ONE Heroes and Villains of World History across Cultures
 
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"The 10 most positively evaluated historical figures across all countries were (in descending order): Albert Einstein, Mother Theresa, Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Isaac Newton, Jesus Christ, Nelson Mandela, Thomas Edison, Abraham Lincoln and Buddha. These are scientists, humanitarians, and religious figures with one exception of a political leader (Abraham Lincoln). It seems reasonable to argue that maybe Abraham Lincoln was perceived as a humanitarian, since it is known that he abolished slavery in the United States. The five most negatively evaluated historical figures across all countries were (from the bottom): Adolf Hitler, Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, George W. Bush and Joseph Stalin. These are 20th and 21st century figures known for their roles in dictatorships, terrorism, mass murder, and/or driving their countries into unjust wars. They were followed by Mao Zedong, Vladimir Lenin, Genghis Khan, Saladin and The Qin Emperor. The last two had evaluations close to the neutral point of 4.04 and so are not evaluated as “villains” by our samples. Clearly time has dimmed the ferocious reputation of Genghis Khan, whose rating also approached the midpoint."
Heroes and Villains of World History across Cultures

And:

"Participants
Data were collected initially from 6,902 university students who were citizens of 37 countries (Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Bulgaria, Canada, China, Colombia, Fiji, France, Germany, Hong Kong, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Italy, Japan, Malaysia, Mauritius, Mexico, Netherlands, Norway, New Zealand, Pakistan, Peru, Philippines, Portugal, Russia, Singapore, South Korea, Spain, Switzerland, Taiwan, Tunisia, UK, and USA). Sample sizes ranged from 78 (Peru) to 346 (Argentina) with an average of 182; most were collected between 2007 and 2008, but the UK sample was collected in 2010. Social science students were preferred, and specialists majoring in history were avoided. Participants with more than 33% missing values were excluded from the overall analyses (175 cases) because they were deemed to have demonstrated insufficient knowledge/interest in historical figures. Additional missing data in the LPA was estimated using FIML. The final sample thus consisted of 6,727 university students (60.8% were female, 36.7% were male, and 2.5% did not indicate their gender). Participants’ age ranged from 16 to 80 years (M = 21.73, SD = 5.19), with country age means ranging from 19.00 (Philippines) to 34.09 (Pakistan). This sampling approach ensures that our findings and conclusions derive from a truly cross-cultural sample that is not WEIRD (ie. Western-Educated-Industrialized-Rich-Democratic) [38]. Yet, the sample is homogenous in terms of educational levels, enabling us to be confident about the comparability of our findings across cultures."
Dang...you beat me to it
 
But that is beside the point that "yes" "people are that dumb"

I work with the public, and they are.



Just imagine how the public considers you.
They consider me to be a competent professional, because I tell them the truth, regardless of what they want to hear, or something untruthful.

That way they have realistic expectations to base their further action on.
 
But that is beside the point that "yes" "people are that dumb"

I work with the public, and they are.



Just imagine how the public considers you.
He's obviously an advocate for the public. Or at least he tries to be. Cut the bitch some slack, homie. :slap:
Truth be known...I'm a case worker for an insurance company and I process appeals and grievances for Obamacare policy holders
 

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