Are Modern Democrats Just Socialists by Another Name?

Are modern Democrats Just Socialists by Another Name


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Are modern Democrats Just Socialists by Another Name?

Upton Sinclair: "The American People will take Socialism, but they won't take the label. I certainly proved it in the case of EPIC. Running on the Socialist ticket I got 60,000 votes, and running on the slogan to 'End Poverty in California' I got 879,000. I think we simply have to recognize the fact that our enemies have succeeded in spreading the Big Lie. There is no use attacking it by a front attack, it is much better to out-flank them."


Socialists in Congress: LINK

American Socialist Voter–
Q: How many members of the U.S. Congress are also members of the DSA?
A: Seventy

Q: How many of the DSA members sit on the Judiciary Committee?
A: Eleven: John Conyers [Chairman of the Judiciary Committee], Tammy Baldwin, Jerrold Nadler, Luis Gutierrez,
Melvin Watt, Maxine Waters, Hank Johnson, Steve Cohen, Barbara Lee, Robert Wexler, Linda Sanchez [there are 23 Democrats on the Judiciary Committee of which eleven, almost half, are now members of the DSA].

Q: Who are these members of 111th Congress?
A: See the listing below

Co-Chairs
Hon. Raúl M. Grijalva (AZ-07)
Hon. Lynn Woolsey (CA-06)

Vice Chairs
Hon. Diane Watson (CA-33)
Hon. Sheila Jackson-Lee (TX-18)
Hon. Mazie Hirono (HI-02)
Hon. Dennis Kucinich (OH-10)

Senate Members
Hon. Bernie Sanders (VT)

House Members
Hon. Neil Abercrombie (HI-01)
Hon. Tammy Baldwin (WI-02)
Hon. Xavier Becerra (CA-31)
Hon. Madeleine Bordallo (GU-AL)
Hon. Robert Brady (PA-01)
Hon. Corrine Brown (FL-03)
Hon. Michael Capuano (MA-08)
Hon. André Carson (IN-07)
Hon. Donna Christensen (VI-AL)
Hon. Yvette Clarke (NY-11)
Hon. William “Lacy” Clay (MO-01)
Hon. Emanuel Cleaver (MO-05)
Hon. Steve Cohen (TN-09)
Hon. John Conyers (MI-14)
Hon. Elijah Cummings (MD-07)
Hon. Danny Davis (IL-07)
Hon. Peter DeFazio (OR-04)
Hon. Rosa DeLauro (CT-03)
Rep. Donna F. Edwards (MD-04)
Hon. Keith Ellison (MN-05)
Hon. Sam Farr (CA-17)
Hon. Chaka Fattah (PA-02)
Hon. Bob Filner (CA-51)
Hon. Barney Frank (MA-04)
Hon. Marcia L. Fudge (OH-11)
Hon. Alan Grayson (FL-08)
Hon. Luis Gutierrez (IL-04)
Hon. John Hall (NY-19)
Hon. Phil Hare (IL-17)
Hon. Maurice Hinchey (NY-22)
Hon. Michael Honda (CA-15)
Hon. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (IL-02)
Hon. Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX-30)
Hon. Hank Johnson (GA-04)
Hon. Marcy Kaptur (OH-09)
Hon. Carolyn Kilpatrick (MI-13)
Hon. Barbara Lee (CA-09)
Hon. John Lewis (GA-05)
Hon. David Loebsack (IA-02)
Hon. Ben R. Lujan (NM-3)
Hon. Carolyn Maloney (NY-14)
Hon. Ed Markey (MA-07)
Hon. Jim McDermott (WA-07)
Hon. James McGovern (MA-03)
Hon. George Miller (CA-07)
Hon. Gwen Moore (WI-04)
Hon. Jerrold Nadler (NY-08)
Hon. Eleanor Holmes-Norton (DC-AL)
Hon. John Olver (MA-01)
Hon. Ed Pastor (AZ-04)
Hon. Donald Payne (NJ-10)
Hon. Chellie Pingree (ME-01)
Hon. Charles Rangel (NY-15)
Hon. Laura Richardson (CA-37)
Hon. Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA-34)
Hon. Bobby Rush (IL-01)
Hon. Linda Sánchez (CA-47)
Hon. Jan Schakowsky (IL-09)
Hon. José Serrano (NY-16)
Hon. Louise Slaughter (NY-28)
Hon. Pete Stark (CA-13)
Hon. Bennie Thompson (MS-02)
Hon. John Tierney (MA-06)
Hon. Nydia Velazquez (NY-12)
Hon. Maxine Waters (CA-35)
Hon. Mel Watt (NC-12)
Hon. Henry Waxman (CA-30)
Hon. Peter Welch (VT-AL)
Hon. Robert Wexler (FL-19)

More Socialists

Elena Kagan’s Socialist College Thesis Dedicated to her Radical Brother HERE
Obamas' Former Car Czars' Socialist Publications HERE AND HERE
Hillary Clintons' College thesison Saul Alinsky HERE
Obamas' Communication Directer Praising Mao HERE
Obamas' Communist Green Czar Van Jones HERE
Other Radicals in the White House HERE AND HERE
More on the Congressional Progressive Caucus HERE.




[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O00vEv8QXLU]Maxine Waters Admits She's a Socialist - YouTube[/ame]

Obama Supreme Court justice Quoting Socialist Norman Thomas
sonia-sotomayors-socialist-yearbook-quote-27126-1243426082-2.jpg


Appointees by Barack Obama who were Members of the Democratic Socialists of America

Ron Bloom Manufacturing Czar.
David Bonior Member of the Obama Economic Transition Team-now delegated by president Obama to negotiate the unification of the AFL-CIO and Change to Win labor federations.
Rosa Brooks Senior advisor to the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy, Michele Flournoy.
Carol Browner Energy Czar/Director of the White House Office of Energy and Climate Change Policy.
Heather Higginbottom Deputy Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy, formerly with the Obama for America campaign
Samantha Power National Security Council, as director for multilateral affairs.
Hilda Solis Secretary of Labor.


DSA Members who worked/works on Obamas Election Campaign

Harry Boyte Co-chairof the Civic Engagement Group of Barack Obama’s U.S. presidential campaign.
Eliseo Medina Served on Obama's Latino Advisory Council.
Cornel West Served on Obama's National Black Advisory Council.
Jose LaLuz also served as president of Latinos for Obama.


More on Obama and the Democratic Socialists of America HERE


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They are Progressives.


Which is worse.

I think there’s no doubt left among rational thinking Americans. The Democrat Party is the modern party of socialism, if not watered down socialism. Nevertheless, every country has a vibrant socialist party but us. Why? Democrats fill the necessary void.
 
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The OP poster assumes that calling someone a socialist has some specific meaning and that meaning is known. The problem with this lack of thinking is that socialism as used by wingnuts on the right has no meaning. It is associated in their limited minds with totalitarian, dictatorships, and communism, the wingnut does not understand these conceptual political philosophies either but that does not matter. Rational thought is missing from the minds of right wing ideologues. The level of their thinking is the school yard moron who can only name call and thinks in the name calling they have done something.

Now consider what socialism is and then consider today it is part and parcel of all modern societies. Government owns and operated numerous entities in America, ironically the people on the right who name call work in this very socialist community. The postal service, the roads, bridges, food inspection, health concerns and testing, internet creation, social security, airport regulation, even sports' stadium creation are all socialistic endeavors and all exist in America. Medicare and the military are socialistic.

Wingnuts live in a bubble that creates a narrow minded view of life and it is why in power they are such failures. In power they fail. In power they have never accomplished a single thing that was good for all America. But out of power, money bring them back to life and they whine and cry like children.
 
The OP poster assumes that calling someone a socialist has some specific meaning and that meaning is known. The problem with this lack of thinking is that socialism as used by wingnuts on the right has no meaning. It is associated in their limited minds with totalitarian, dictatorships, and communism, the wingnut does not understand these conceptual political philosophies either but that does not matter. Rational thought is missing from the minds of right wing ideologues. The level of their thinking is the school yard moron who can only name call and thinks in the name calling they have done something.

Now consider what socialism is and then consider today it is part and parcel of all modern societies. Government owns and operated numerous entities in America, ironically the people on the right who name call work in this very socialist community. The postal service, the roads, bridges, food inspection, health concerns and testing, internet creation, social security, airport regulation, even sports' stadium creation are all socialistic endeavors and all exist in America. Medicare and the military are socialistic.

Wingnuts live in a bubble that creates a narrow minded view of life and it is why in power they are such failures. In power they fail. In power they have never accomplished a single thing that was good for all America. But out of power, money bring them back to life and they whine and cry like children.

Are you retarded? I'm not asking to be provocative or mean, I'm serious.

If you have some form of mental retardation it would account for this "The postal service, the roads, bridges, food inspection, health concerns and testing, internet creation, social security, airport regulation, even sports' stadium creation are all socialistic endeavors and all exist in America. Medicare and the military are socialistic."
 
The OP poster assumes that calling someone a socialist has some specific meaning and that meaning is known. The problem with this lack of thinking is that socialism as used by wingnuts on the right has no meaning. It is associated in their limited minds with totalitarian, dictatorships, and communism, the wingnut does not understand these conceptual political philosophies either but that does not matter. Rational thought is missing from the minds of right wing ideologues. The level of their thinking is the school yard moron who can only name call and thinks in the name calling they have done something.

Now consider what socialism is and then consider today it is part and parcel of all modern societies. Government owns and operated numerous entities in America, ironically the people on the right who name call work in this very socialist community. The postal service, the roads, bridges, food inspection, health concerns and testing, internet creation, social security, airport regulation, even sports' stadium creation are all socialistic endeavors and all exist in America. Medicare and the military are socialistic.

Wingnuts live in a bubble that creates a narrow minded view of life and it is why in power they are such failures. In power they fail. In power they have never accomplished a single thing that was good for all America. But out of power, money bring them back to life and they whine and cry like children.

Here is your social/welfare programs ----->>> U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

Wow, I noticed that you are defending socialism. It’s almost that you’re lamenting that people are just too stupid to accept the idea of socialism. And sure, socialism is a form of dictatorial governance, where individual liberty takes second place to forced equality. Where no matter how hard you work or how skilled you become, you’re just the same as the next Joe over (See why unions denounce merit in favor of seniority). There is a reason why most socialist and communist countries are run by hard line dictators. When we think socialism or communism, we think Maxamillion Robespierre, Karl Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler (Yes NAZI = Nationalist Socialist German Workers party), Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, Castro, Che Guevara (Every liberals hero), Hugo Chavez, Ho Chi Minh, Benito Mussolini (Yes he was a lifelong socialist before he changed to fascist, socialisms’ little cousin), Kim Jong Il, Kim Jong Un, Kim Il Sung, Trotsky, etc etc etc… In every country that pure socialism has been tried it has ended up in mass starvations, death, no individual rights, and tyranny. In every country that has tried partial socialism, their socialist programs have gone bankrupt; unless of course, your one of those countries that have a worldwide monopoly. Those Programs yo speak of? Social security (BANKRUPT), Medicare (BANKRUPT), The Postal Service (BANKRUPT), Air Port Regulation (Cost ineffective and lead to many Airline Bankruptcy’s), The TSA ( Laughable in comparison to private security whom actually pass their random fake bomb tests), Medicaid (BANKRUPT), The Military (Not allowed to unionize and everyone willing to sacrifice their lives for their country want to be there to serve, not for money).The military also votes Republican 4 to 1. Go figure.

Now, I see your crying about money in politics. Funny that the liberal interpretation of Article 1 Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution (Not that you’ve ever read it) allows for your precious federal welfare/social and opened up the gateway to both individual welfare and corporate welfare, releasing the floodgates to lobbying and special interests. The Conservative view would have allowed for spending only for the enumerated powers (Not that you know what those are). That’s what we got with FDR who bullied the Supreme Court (See the switch in time that saved the 9).

Now how about this. Let’s use a little federalism. Let all your blue states become socialist states on their own. But no, you want the federal government to force all of the states to do the same socialist programs and why? Because liberals/socialists know that if one state became socialist then every person and every business who is worth a crap will move to a red state where they can prosper. Which is going on right now, believe it or not, according to the 2010 census with all of the blue state flight in to red states with lower taxes, less welfare programs, affordable prices, and conservative government. Wherever socialism has been tried it has failed. And that’s why modern democrats are socialists by another name. Obviously a fact that you don’t dispute.

Accomplished nothing for America? Private Property rights, individual liberty, and the idea that if you succeed, the success is your own, and if you fail, the failure is your own, is the driving force on what makes America Great. We put individual liberty before equality and we have a great deal of both. In all countries where equality has been placed before liberty they received neither. Whereas we have the unalienable, indisputable, irrefutable, self-evident right to life, liberty, and the PURSUIT of happiness, and not the “guarantee” of happiness. The value of my life is not how much I can contribute to society, but how much I can contribute to myself via hard work. No one owes you a dime for squirting out babies that you cant afford and no one owes you a living. Thats what makes America Great!



 
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Are Modern Democrats Just Socialists by Another Name?
No more than modern republicans are fascists by another name – to refer to democrats as ‘socialists’ or republicans as ‘fascists’ is equally idiotic.

Indeed, with regard to democrats, it’s particularly moronic to refer to them as ‘socialists’ given the fact democrats participate in, and are advocates of, free markets and capitalism.
 
Yep, they're authoritarian socialist... They'll deny it just like assholes deny they don't believe in Global Warming but they believe in "climate change" - same thing....

"No we're not socialists we're progressives."

These fucks use the same ideas but just change the title. They've been doing this for years....

Whole Language is responsible for this bullshit... Whole language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Progressives are dumb people that can easily be tricked into believing anything given the appropriate ruse...
 
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Are Modern Democrats Just Socialists by Another Name?
No more than modern republicans are fascists by another name – to refer to democrats as ‘socialists’ or republicans as ‘fascists’ is equally idiotic.

Fascism is a form of socialism, so it's idiotic to refer to republicans as fascists.

Indeed, with regard to democrats, it’s particularly moronic to refer to them as ‘socialists’ given the fact democrats participate in, and are advocates of, free markets and capitalism.

Democrats, advocates of capitalism?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Hysterical!
 
Are modern Democrats Just Socialists by Another Name?

Upton Sinclair: "The American People will take Socialism, but they won't take the label. I certainly proved it in the case of EPIC. Running on the Socialist ticket I got 60,000 votes, and running on the slogan to 'End Poverty in California' I got 879,000. I think we simply have to recognize the fact that our enemies have succeeded in spreading the Big Lie. There is no use attacking it by a front attack, it is much better to out-flank them."


Socialists in Congress: LINK

American Socialist Voter–
Q: How many members of the U.S. Congress are also members of the DSA?
A: Seventy

Q: How many of the DSA members sit on the Judiciary Committee?
A: Eleven: John Conyers [Chairman of the Judiciary Committee], Tammy Baldwin, Jerrold Nadler, Luis Gutierrez,
Melvin Watt, Maxine Waters, Hank Johnson, Steve Cohen, Barbara Lee, Robert Wexler, Linda Sanchez [there are 23 Democrats on the Judiciary Committee of which eleven, almost half, are now members of the DSA].

Q: Who are these members of 111th Congress?
A: See the listing below

Co-Chairs
Hon. Raúl M. Grijalva (AZ-07)
Hon. Lynn Woolsey (CA-06)

Vice Chairs
Hon. Diane Watson (CA-33)
Hon. Sheila Jackson-Lee (TX-18)
Hon. Mazie Hirono (HI-02)
Hon. Dennis Kucinich (OH-10)

Senate Members
Hon. Bernie Sanders (VT)

House Members
Hon. Neil Abercrombie (HI-01)
Hon. Tammy Baldwin (WI-02)
Hon. Xavier Becerra (CA-31)
Hon. Madeleine Bordallo (GU-AL)
Hon. Robert Brady (PA-01)
Hon. Corrine Brown (FL-03)
Hon. Michael Capuano (MA-08)
Hon. André Carson (IN-07)
Hon. Donna Christensen (VI-AL)
Hon. Yvette Clarke (NY-11)
Hon. William “Lacy” Clay (MO-01)
Hon. Emanuel Cleaver (MO-05)
Hon. Steve Cohen (TN-09)
Hon. John Conyers (MI-14)
Hon. Elijah Cummings (MD-07)
Hon. Danny Davis (IL-07)
Hon. Peter DeFazio (OR-04)
Hon. Rosa DeLauro (CT-03)
Rep. Donna F. Edwards (MD-04)
Hon. Keith Ellison (MN-05)
Hon. Sam Farr (CA-17)
Hon. Chaka Fattah (PA-02)
Hon. Bob Filner (CA-51)
Hon. Barney Frank (MA-04)
Hon. Marcia L. Fudge (OH-11)
Hon. Alan Grayson (FL-08)
Hon. Luis Gutierrez (IL-04)
Hon. John Hall (NY-19)
Hon. Phil Hare (IL-17)
Hon. Maurice Hinchey (NY-22)
Hon. Michael Honda (CA-15)
Hon. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (IL-02)
Hon. Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX-30)
Hon. Hank Johnson (GA-04)
Hon. Marcy Kaptur (OH-09)
Hon. Carolyn Kilpatrick (MI-13)
Hon. Barbara Lee (CA-09)
Hon. John Lewis (GA-05)
Hon. David Loebsack (IA-02)
Hon. Ben R. Lujan (NM-3)
Hon. Carolyn Maloney (NY-14)
Hon. Ed Markey (MA-07)
Hon. Jim McDermott (WA-07)
Hon. James McGovern (MA-03)
Hon. George Miller (CA-07)
Hon. Gwen Moore (WI-04)
Hon. Jerrold Nadler (NY-08)
Hon. Eleanor Holmes-Norton (DC-AL)
Hon. John Olver (MA-01)
Hon. Ed Pastor (AZ-04)
Hon. Donald Payne (NJ-10)
Hon. Chellie Pingree (ME-01)
Hon. Charles Rangel (NY-15)
Hon. Laura Richardson (CA-37)
Hon. Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA-34)
Hon. Bobby Rush (IL-01)
Hon. Linda Sánchez (CA-47)
Hon. Jan Schakowsky (IL-09)
Hon. José Serrano (NY-16)
Hon. Louise Slaughter (NY-28)
Hon. Pete Stark (CA-13)
Hon. Bennie Thompson (MS-02)
Hon. John Tierney (MA-06)
Hon. Nydia Velazquez (NY-12)
Hon. Maxine Waters (CA-35)
Hon. Mel Watt (NC-12)
Hon. Henry Waxman (CA-30)
Hon. Peter Welch (VT-AL)
Hon. Robert Wexler (FL-19)

More Socialists

Elena Kagan’s Socialist College Thesis Dedicated to her Radical Brother HERE
Obamas' Former Car Czars' Socialist Publications HERE AND HERE
Hillary Clintons' College thesison Saul Alinsky HERE
Obamas' Communication Directer Praising Mao HERE
Obamas' Communist Green Czar Van Jones HERE
Other Radicals in the White House HERE AND HERE
More on the Congressional Progressive Caucus HERE.




[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O00vEv8QXLU]Maxine Waters Admits She's a Socialist - YouTube[/ame]

Obama Supreme Court justice Quoting Socialist Norman Thomas
sonia-sotomayors-socialist-yearbook-quote-27126-1243426082-2.jpg


Appointees by Barack Obama who were Members of the Democratic Socialists of America

Ron Bloom Manufacturing Czar.
David Bonior Member of the Obama Economic Transition Team-now delegated by president Obama to negotiate the unification of the AFL-CIO and Change to Win labor federations.
Rosa Brooks Senior advisor to the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy, Michele Flournoy.
Carol Browner Energy Czar/Director of the White House Office of Energy and Climate Change Policy.
Heather Higginbottom Deputy Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy, formerly with the Obama for America campaign
Samantha Power National Security Council, as director for multilateral affairs.
Hilda Solis Secretary of Labor.


DSA Members who worked/works on Obamas Election Campaign

Harry Boyte Co-chairof the Civic Engagement Group of Barack Obama’s U.S. presidential campaign.
Eliseo Medina Served on Obama's Latino Advisory Council.
Cornel West Served on Obama's National Black Advisory Council.
Jose LaLuz also served as president of Latinos for Obama.


More on Obama and the Democratic Socialists of America HERE


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Yep, What's the difference between the new president of France and Obama? If you can't tar them apart. Then it's pretty hard to say I'm wrong. :eusa_shhh:
 
Wow, I noticed that you are defending socialism. It’s almost that you’re lamenting that people are just too stupid to accept the idea of socialism. And sure, socialism is a form of dictatorial governance, where individual liberty takes second place to forced equality. Where no matter how hard you work or how skilled you become, you’re just the same as the next Joe over (See why unions denounce merit in favor of seniority). There is a reason why most socialist and communist countries are run by hard line dictators....

Accomplished nothing for America? Private Property rights, individual liberty, and the idea that if you succeed, the success is your own, and if you fail, the failure is your own, is the driving force on what makes America Great. We put individual liberty before equality and we have a great deal of both. In all countries where equality has been placed before liberty they received neither. Whereas we have the unalienable, indisputable, irrefutable, self-evident right to life, liberty, and the PURSUIT of happiness, and not the “guarantee” of happiness. The value of my life is not how much I can contribute to society, but how much I can contribute to myself via hard work. No one owes you a dime for squirting out babies that you cant afford and no one owes you a living. Thats what makes America Great!

You remind me of the pampered children I know who have never worked a hard day in their life but somehow have made it on their own. The last time republicans ran America under Harding, Coolidge and Hoover we had the great depression, do you think that was some sort of accident? And please no revisionist history, if you blame democrats then be honest enough to look at your own. Reagan / Bush = bailouts, economic failure, Clinton / Bush = great recession. Unless you are rip van winkle you must have noticed the party in charge during these crashes.

As for liberty and success they mean nothing outside of context. You write and sound like an ad on TV. Cliches that are separate from the reality of the lives many Americans lead today. To repeat republicans after Lincoln did nothing for all of America, I do give credit to Eisenhower for the Keynesian highway project, and Reagan for supporting one of FDR's greatest accomplishment social security. All you need is freedom is meaningless blather, it is still the pudding that matters.

"We're always saying that “children are our nation’s most valuable resource.” Unfortunately, we don’t behave as if we believe it. Between 2000 and 2010, the number of children living in poverty in America increased by 41 percent, and now includes nearly one-quarter of our kids. Growing up in poverty is bad. It leads to lower graduation rates (a third of these children will not graduate from high school); lower incomes (nearly half will still be living in poverty at age 35); and lower life expectancy (by about eight years)." Ezekiel J. Emanuel Share the Wealth - NYTimes.com


"The historical evidence is clear: welfare reduces poverty, and the lack of it increases it. In the 1920s, fully half of all Americans could not make ends meet. Roosevelt's New Deal programs had reduced poverty to about 20 percent in the 50s. Johnson's Great Society reduced this to 11.1 percent by 1973. Since the rise of the corporate special interest system in 1975, individual welfare benefits have been shrinking, and poverty has been steadily rising, to over 15 percent today." Welfare increases poverty


"As John Paul II has already observed, the demarcation line between rich and poor countries is no longer as clear as it was at the time of Populorum Progressio. The world's wealth is growing in absolute terms, but inequalities are on the increase. In rich countries, new sectors of society are succumbing to poverty and new forms of poverty are emerging. In poorer areas some groups enjoy a sort of “superdevelopment” of a wasteful and consumerist kind which forms an unacceptable contrast with the ongoing situations of dehumanizing deprivation. “The scandal of glaring inequalities” continues. Corruption and illegality are unfortunately evident in the conduct of the economic and political class in rich countries, both old and new, as well as in poor ones. Among those who sometimes fail to respect the human rights of workers are large multinational companies as well as local producers. International aid has often been diverted from its proper ends, through irresponsible actions both within the chain of donors and within that of the beneficiaries. Similarly, in the context of immaterial or cultural causes of development and underdevelopment, we find these same patterns of responsibility reproduced. On the part of rich countries there is excessive zeal for protecting knowledge through an unduly rigid assertion of the right to intellectual property, especially in the field of health care. At the same time, in some poor countries, cultural models and social norms of behaviour persist which hinder the process of development."
"Caritas in veritate" - Encyclical Letter of His Holiness Benedict XVI


"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." Dom Helder Camara
 
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The OP poster assumes that calling someone a socialist has some specific meaning and that meaning is known. The problem with this lack of thinking is that socialism as used by wingnuts on the right has no meaning. It is associated in their limited minds with totalitarian, dictatorships, and communism, the wingnut does not understand these conceptual political philosophies either but that does not matter. Rational thought is missing from the minds of right wing ideologues. The level of their thinking is the school yard moron who can only name call and thinks in the name calling they have done something.

Now consider what socialism is and then consider today it is part and parcel of all modern societies. Government owns and operated numerous entities in America, ironically the people on the right who name call work in this very socialist community. The postal service, the roads, bridges, food inspection, health concerns and testing, internet creation, social security, airport regulation, even sports' stadium creation are all socialistic endeavors and all exist in America. Medicare and the military are socialistic.

Wingnuts live in a bubble that creates a narrow minded view of life and it is why in power they are such failures. In power they fail. In power they have never accomplished a single thing that was good for all America. But out of power, money bring them back to life and they whine and cry like children.

omg,
 
When the term "Socialism" becomes so devoid of meaning, so soft and watered-down that England, Canada, France, Germany, Sweden, Switzerland and Japan are all "socialist" in the conservatarian mind, I think it's fair to say, butchering Nixon, that we are all socialists now.
 
Yes the Democrat party has been infiltrated by Socialist and Communist..

enjoy your slavery to them, they have started with ObamaCare...

explain that to your grandchildren
 
Yes the Democrat party has been infiltrated by Socialist and Communist..

enjoy your slavery to them, they have started with ObamaCare...

explain that to your grandchildren

Uh-huh. They've started towards slavery with a healthcare reform plan with a basic structure recommended by Newt Gingrich and Bob Dole, a mandate was recommended by Heritage, and a program almost identical to the program implemented by the current Republican candidate for President.

Just stop while you're behind.
 
Yes the Democrat party has been infiltrated by Socialist and Communist..

enjoy your slavery to them, they have started with ObamaCare...

explain that to your grandchildren

Uh-huh. They've started towards slavery with a healthcare reform plan with a basic structure recommended by Newt Gingrich and Bob Dole, a mandate was recommended by Heritage, and a program almost identical to the program implemented by the current Republican candidate for President.

Just stop while you're behind.

ummmhmmm, I had a choice in that matter...Not to move to Massachusetts..
so please stop while you're behind
 
The OP poster assumes that calling someone a socialist has some specific meaning and that meaning is known. The problem with this lack of thinking is that socialism as used by wingnuts on the right has no meaning. It is associated in their limited minds with totalitarian, dictatorships, and communism, the wingnut does not understand these conceptual political philosophies either but that does not matter. Rational thought is missing from the minds of right wing ideologues. The level of their thinking is the school yard moron who can only name call and thinks in the name calling they have done something.

Now consider what socialism is and then consider today it is part and parcel of all modern societies. Government owns and operated numerous entities in America, ironically the people on the right who name call work in this very socialist community. The postal service, the roads, bridges, food inspection, health concerns and testing, internet creation, social security, airport regulation, even sports' stadium creation are all socialistic endeavors and all exist in America. Medicare and the military are socialistic.

Wingnuts live in a bubble that creates a narrow minded view of life and it is why in power they are such failures. In power they fail. In power they have never accomplished a single thing that was good for all America. But out of power, money bring them back to life and they whine and cry like children.
Holding to liberal beliefs is not sufficient justification for the arrogance you display. Please refrain from posting in this manner until you've actually done something.
 

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