Are governments just protection rackets for the 1%?

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    Who said anything about fraud or cheating someone?

    If not from taking advantage of the labor force who make the product, and taking advantage of the market/buyers, how else is great wealth gained?

    Taking advantage of those two groups is not cheating or fraud. We call it good business.

    It seems we are not looking at "taking advantage" the same way. You see it as a negative while I and the economy see it as a positive that must happen if the economy is to work.

    How would you create wealth for yourself if not taking advantage of labor and the market place? I know of not other legal source.

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    I do not want to repeat. Please read my post just above and opine.

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    Actually, I blame the republican controlled Congress more than Trump for the failure to replace BOcare. They were unable to put together any legislation. That is not Trumps fault.

    I am actually a fan of the 2 party system, I just think it’s time the existing parties are reformed and changed.[/QUOTE]

    You call it BOcare while your government cannot seem to shit a better smelling one. You look but cannot see. I am in Canada though and used to better from the get go.

    Trump had the promise of repeal and replace as a main part of his platform.

    You go ahead and blame others for incompetence if you like as you are right that the Reps are incompetent, but the buck stops with an equally incompetent Trump who now becomes a liar who makes promises but will not do the work required to put up what he should have shut up on.

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    When a kid like Clarence Thomas rises from poverty to become a Supreme Court Justice how can you say that "government is a tool of the oligarchs"? Only the lazy and the truly ignorant or the political tricksters would believe such nonsense.
     
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    You call it BOcare while your government cannot seem to shit a better smelling one. You look but cannot see. I am in Canada though and used to better from the get go.

    Trump had the promise of repeal and replace as a main part of his platform.

    You go ahead and blame others for incompetence if you like as you are right that the Reps are incompetent, but the buck stops with an equally incompetent Trump who now becomes a liar who makes promises but will not do the work required to put up what he should have shut up on.

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    Trump is a political idiot, no doubt, but why don’t you explain to me how he was suppose to sign a bill into law repealing and replacing BOcare that can’t get thru congress. Perhaps as a Canadian you are unfamiliar with our system here. The president can’t just pass legislation, he can only sign or veto legislation which has first been approved by congress.
     
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    Follow the links I put, especially that 20 year report on what laws get passed and come back and chat. That link on inherited wealth is an eye opener as well.

    Your comment on a judge who likely bought his election with bribes and kick back is of no importance to me as the quality of your judiciary does not seem to be the best because of your election process for the judges.

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    That’s silly. The market decides what the wages will be, not the employer or employee (government mandated minimum wage excepted). I own a business and employ contract labor. I can not dictate to my installers what I will pay them, nor can they demand what ever pay they want. There is a going rate for their labor set by the market, and I have to pay that price or something very close to it, and they have to accept that price or something very close to it. If I refuse to pay that wage, they will work for someone else, if they demand a higher wage, I will use another installer.
     
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    Trump is a political idiot, no doubt, but why don’t you explain to me how he was suppose to sign a bill into law repealing and replacing BOcare that can’t get thru congress. Perhaps as a Canadian you are unfamiliar with our system here. The president can’t just pass legislation, he can only sign or veto legislation which has first been approved by congress.[/QUOTE]

    I know that but it is to Trump, after promising it, to provide a system that congress can pass.

    The political idiots, FMPOV, are the people that elected a man based on his B.S. and hate. Some of that was justified but not nearly the amount that Trump was selling.

    The American public has been Trumped.

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    You're using two definitions of "taking advantage of." One definition means to con or defraud someone, as in "the used car salesman took advantage of the teenager and sold him a heap for twice what it was worth." The other means simply to employ something, as in "I took advantage of my day off to mow my lawn."

    You're trying to use both definitions at the same time. On the one hand you imply that capitalists are doing something shady, but then you deny it when you use the term in your economic theory.

    If it's not a a form of fraud, then how are the poor entitled to anything the rich have earned?
     
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    I know that but it is to Trump, after promising it, to provide a system that congress can pass.

    The political idiots, FMPOV, are the people that elected a man based on his B.S. and hate.

    The American public were Trumped.

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    DL[/QUOTE]

    Trump is not good, and knowing what I know today, I’d still take him over the evil pantsuit bulldyke. We only had 2 choices, turd sandwich or giant douche bag.
     

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