CDZ Are anti gunners serious when they say they will stop at 10 round magazines?

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    I live in NYC, there is ALWAYS a bridge around.
     
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    You should try telling the victims of terrorism that they are no threat. I don't recognize a democracy. I was guaranteed a Republican form of Government (Article 4 Sec. 4 of the Constitution.)
     
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    Terrorists will always be among us
    But how much damage do they actually inflict on our society?

    Less than 100 deaths last year from terror attacks. We have over 8000 murders a year. Gang violence is a bigger threat than terrorism
     
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    and gang violence isn't that big of a threat since it's mostly pieces of shit criminals killing other pieces of shit criminals
     
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    But they also terrorize the honest citizens/businesses in the communities they reside in

    Our internal gangs are a bigger threat than outside terrorists. If we spent as much money fighting gangs as we do fighting terrorist, we would be much safer
     
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    gangs and gang crime are local issues not federal
     
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    Just because the media and the FBI are telling you that the Las Vegas shooter was not a terrorist does not mean they got it right. They don't know what caused him to do the deed.
     
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    Virtually all mass shootings involve people on a schedule of drugs called SSRIs and / or political jihadists. Drugs, alcohol and mental health issues are as prevalent in gun violence as the weapons themselves. Even anti-gun sites attest to this:

    Alcohol abuse/dependence also appears to have a causal association with the perpetration of violent and impulsive crime, including assault, use of a weapon, theft, property damage, and fraud (Boden et al., 2013). Significant associations have additionally been found between substance use disorders and making threats against others with a firearm (Casiano, et al., 2008). In addition, consumption of alcohol and drugs increases the risk one will become a victim of a violent crime. In a study that included medical examiner reports from King County, WA, alcohol and illicit drug use appeared to be 3 associated with an increased risk of violent death, including by firearms (Rivara et al., 2009). Among a studied population of homicide victims in Sao Paulo, alcohol consumption was positively correlated with homicide victimization, with firearms causing 78.6% of the deaths examined overall (Andreuccetti et al., 2009). Illicit drugs were prominent among the victims of firearms-related homicides in a study in Australia, with the relative levels of psychostimulants (especially cocaine) in such cases twice as high as that seen in deaths due to other causes. In contract, alcohol was most frequently seen amongst deaths due to blunt force injury (Darke & Duflou, 2008). Heavy drinkers in one study were found to be 2.67 times as likely to be shot in an assault compared to both lightdrinkers and non-drinkers (light- and non-drinkers shared the same risk). That same study found that simply being in an area of high off-premise alcohol outlet availability (“off-premise” meaning take-out establishments such as liquor and convenience stores) doubled a person’s risk of being shot in an assault. Heavy drinkers in high off-premise alcohol outlet availability areas were 9.34 times as likely to be shot in an assault. (Branas et al., 2009) A nationwide Swedish study using outpatient and inpatient data found that people with mental illness who also have a substance use disorder are nine times more likely than the general population to be murdered. Overall, people with mental illness were almost five times as likely to be a murder victim, compared with those with no psychiatric diagnosis. (Crump et al, 2013)

    http://adai.uw.edu/pubs/infobriefs/ADAI-IB-2013-01.pdf

    Seems to me we should focus on those issues, not the guns themselves.
     
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    Switzerland could not defend themselves with small arms

    If Hitler was intent on taking Switzerland (which he didn't need), he could have leveled the cities, destroyed the railways, cut off their distribution of food

    Any gun owner acting as a sniper would be publically tortured along with his family and neighbors

    Wisely, Switzerland chose to appease Hitler
     

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