Arctic sea ice melting toward record

[gslack]

He never had two failed wars to his name. Nor did he take a government in very good financial shape, and bankrupt it in eight years. Not only that, his business ventures make money, he does not need the Bin Laden family to bail him out, as Bush repeatedly did.

So he inherited a zinc mining lease on his daddy's property, a lucrative bit oil stock from occidental petroleum, and lets not forget he married old money too..

Along with that he used his position as VP to sell a false science and utter shameless fear driven attack to further his own business ventures which would lead to a tax on life.

And no he didn't have any wars to his name... yeah had to hold the big chair for that didn't he... But then the cluster fucks in Somalia and Kosovo was part of the clinton BS.... But no Gore didn't have any wars to his name... Nor anything else beyond the global warming pseudo-science....

 

[westwall]

Al Gore is a businessman. A rather successful one, at that. Took a modestly wealthy inheritance, and, by investing in the hi-tech market when it was on a downer, made that into a large fortune.

He purchased a California mansion for a bargain price. That is good business.

He did not make money off of his film, but he did win the gratitude of most of the citizens of the world that have seen it.

He is only successful because he used his political connections to pass legislation that was beneficial to his companies old fraud. If you or I had done the same we would be in prison on a whole host of government violations. Just remember Jack Abramoff (who just got out of prison) he was doing basically the same thing...only his connections aren't quite as good.

 

[Chris]

So, has anyone disproved the U.S. friggin' Navy yet?

Do you even bother to read the posts?

Apparently not.

 

[Oddball]

I'll score that a big NO.

 

[Chris]

I'll score that a big NO.

Like I said. You don't read the posts here.

The issue that the deniers refuse to acknowledge, even though I have brought it up in about a hundred posts, is that the Sun just went through its lowest level of activity in 80 years. As a result the polar ice was thicker this winter. But in the last few months the ice cap experienced its fastest period of melting since records have been kept. Why? Because as the Sun's activity is increasing, the 40% increase in atmospheric CO2 is having a greater effect. Now the ice is at its lowest level for this time of year since the satellite era began.

 

[westwall]

I'll score that a big NO.

Like I said. You don't read the posts here.

The issue that the deniers refuse to acknowledge, even though I have brought it up in about a hundred posts, is that the Sun just went through its lowest level of activity in 80 years. As a result the polar ice was thicker this winter. But in the last few months the ice cap experienced its fastest period of melting since records have been kept. Why? Because as the Sun's activity is increasing, the 40% increase in atmospheric CO2 is having a greater effect. Now the ice is at its lowest level for this time of year since the satellite era began.

This is not true Chris. The ice pack melt started later than it had in decades and the ice is still thicker than it has been in years. You cultists manipulate the data to suit your agenda, but the science is coming out and you people are losing. Which is good.

 

[Chris]

 

[Chris]

Arctic sea ice coverage was the highest in 10 years at the end of March. Then, it decreased at the fastest rate since satellite records started (which began in 1979) during the month of May. It was very near the record low May coverage of 2006 by the end of the month.

This flip-flop in data trends was foreseen by the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) scientists earlier this year. The reason? Although the March amount of sea surface covered by ice was the highest since 2001, the majority of this ice was less than three years old. This means it is thinner and less compact than “older” ice, and has been melting away at a greater pace in the past 30 years, of average.

The primary mechanism for this rapid melt is a warm southerly air current over much of the arctic region. Surface air temperatures have been well above average in the northern latitudes, as much as 9 degrees over the norm which of course contributed to the quick decrease in ice.

Arctic sea ice and a hot Texas summer: Is there a connection?

 

[gslack]

So, has anyone disproved the U.S. friggin' Navy yet?

Do you even bother to read the posts?

Apparently not.

No dumbass the ones who don't read the posts or the articles they cite are you and your sock/troll army.... Already busted you and the 3 stooges doing this too many times to even count.... On you for one we have your brilliant use of the satellite ice coverage animation you posted here and then tried to pretend it was my animation.. it was your animation, I just actually watched the animation without a preconceived outcome.....

Not one of you have an ethical core you will not sell out to push this bullshit.... So when you show some honesty and integrity regarding this, maybe we will take you seriously again. So far all we have seen is you grabbing headlines and going with it and not bothering to read the articles or data. And when called on it, or your data/article shown to be incorrect, or the claims in the headlines or asserted by you to be false, you run away, come back as another identity and bury it under Propaganda, or lie and or pretend it never happened....

you are dishonest, and that is enough for most of us to treat you with contempt... So when we dismiss you as a liar, remember it was your doing...

 

[Oddball]

Look out!...Don't make him post another chart or graph from the hoaxers on you again!

 

[westwall]

Oh yes this is great, they are measuring the exact 8% of the ice pack that supports their cause and ignoring the rest that doesn't. Real effective if yo can pull it off...which they can do with people like you.

 

[Oddball]

What do you want from the UCAR crooks who got caught with their data-fudging pants down in the CRU e-mail scandal?

 

[westwall]

what do you want from the ucar crooks who got caught with their data-fudging pants down in the cru e-mail scandal?

exactly!

 

[Foxfyre]

After observing this and the other active global warming threads for a few days now, there are a couple of questions that keeps nagging at me.

I KNOW why some of us believe the skeptics. They simply are making more sense and making the more credible case these days. They may yet be proved wrong. But if they are right, think of all the gazillions of laws, policies, and monies spent that won't need to be expended in a way that will take away from our freedoms, choices, options, and opportunties.

But given the blessings to humankind if we aren't in any danger from anthropological global warming, why are some of you guys so reluctant to look at what those skeptics are saying? Why are you so anxious for them to be wrong?

I know why some believe the AGW gurus. They represent a leftwing, socialist, and authoritarian perspective that is quite appealing to Leftist or those who admire and exalt the gurus in that camp. They honestly believe it is possible that government authority will get us much closer to a utopian society than we could ever achieve on our own.

But given the errors that have been repeatedly demonstrated in their conclusions, the obvious fortunes that will be acquired by the advocate leaders, why are the little people so eager to embrace those conclusions? How can they believe them so strongly that they seem almost desperate for them to be right?

 

[Oddball]

But given the errors that have been repeatedly demonstrated in their conclusions, the obvious fortunes that will be acquired by the advocate leaders, why are the little people so eager to embrace those conclusions? How can they believe them so strongly that they seem almost desperate for them to be right?

I used to believe that they were mere errors until the CRU e-mail and IPCC scandals broke.

The people at the top of this aren't making petty human errors, they're perpetrating the greatest money-grubbing hoax since Piltdown Man.