Arctic ice cap continues to melt

[westwall]

You can now sail around the pole....

You could do it way back in 1903 through 1906 too!

No you could not, you stupid liar. It took Amundsen three years to get an 87 ton herring boat through the Northwest Passage.

The American Experience | Alone on the Ice | People & Events | Roald Amundsen

In 1903 he established himself as a sailor and explorer of the first order when he successfully led a 70-foot fishing boat through the entire length of the Northwest Passage, a treacherous ice-bound route that wound between the northern Canadian mainland and Canada's Arctic islands. The arduous journey took three years to complete as Amundsen and his crew had to wait while the frozen sea around them thawed enough to allow for navigation. Soon after his return to Norway, he learned that Englishman Ernest Shackleton was setting out of an attempt to reach the South Pole. Shackleton would be forced to abandon his quest a mere 97 miles short of the Pole. Amundsen studied all he could of Shackleton's attempt and began the long process of preparing for his own. He was as highly regarded for his skills in organization and planning as he was for his expertise as an explorer. Amundsen, who was thought to be "taciturn under the best of circumstances," took special measures to be sure members of his crew possessed personalities suitable to long polar voyages. Crew members onboard his ships knew he was firm but fair, and affectionately referred to him as "the chief."

There you go with that childish "liar, liar pants on fire crap" Did you ever think that maybe they got lost a few times. Read his book sometime it's quite good.

 

[Chris]

You could do it way back in 1903 through 1906 too!

No you could not, you stupid liar. It took Amundsen three years to get an 87 ton herring boat through the Northwest Passage.

The American Experience | Alone on the Ice | People & Events | Roald Amundsen

In 1903 he established himself as a sailor and explorer of the first order when he successfully led a 70-foot fishing boat through the entire length of the Northwest Passage, a treacherous ice-bound route that wound between the northern Canadian mainland and Canada's Arctic islands. The arduous journey took three years to complete as Amundsen and his crew had to wait while the frozen sea around them thawed enough to allow for navigation. Soon after his return to Norway, he learned that Englishman Ernest Shackleton was setting out of an attempt to reach the South Pole. Shackleton would be forced to abandon his quest a mere 97 miles short of the Pole. Amundsen studied all he could of Shackleton's attempt and began the long process of preparing for his own. He was as highly regarded for his skills in organization and planning as he was for his expertise as an explorer. Amundsen, who was thought to be "taciturn under the best of circumstances," took special measures to be sure members of his crew possessed personalities suitable to long polar voyages. Crew members onboard his ships knew he was firm but fair, and affectionately referred to him as "the chief."

There you go with that childish "liar, liar pants on fire crap" Did you ever think that maybe they got lost a few times. Read his book sometime it's quite good.

How much is the American Petroleum Institute paying you?

 

[hjmick]

On the upside...

It's the Arctic so at least the sea levels won't rise...








I'm just a "glass half full" kind of guy...

 

[westwall]

No you could not, you stupid liar. It took Amundsen three years to get an 87 ton herring boat through the Northwest Passage.

The American Experience | Alone on the Ice | People & Events | Roald Amundsen

In 1903 he established himself as a sailor and explorer of the first order when he successfully led a 70-foot fishing boat through the entire length of the Northwest Passage, a treacherous ice-bound route that wound between the northern Canadian mainland and Canada's Arctic islands. The arduous journey took three years to complete as Amundsen and his crew had to wait while the frozen sea around them thawed enough to allow for navigation. Soon after his return to Norway, he learned that Englishman Ernest Shackleton was setting out of an attempt to reach the South Pole. Shackleton would be forced to abandon his quest a mere 97 miles short of the Pole. Amundsen studied all he could of Shackleton's attempt and began the long process of preparing for his own. He was as highly regarded for his skills in organization and planning as he was for his expertise as an explorer. Amundsen, who was thought to be "taciturn under the best of circumstances," took special measures to be sure members of his crew possessed personalities suitable to long polar voyages. Crew members onboard his ships knew he was firm but fair, and affectionately referred to him as "the chief."

There you go with that childish "liar, liar pants on fire crap" Did you ever think that maybe they got lost a few times. Read his book sometime it's quite good.

How much is the American Petroleum Institute paying you?

How much is Al Gore and Goldman Sachs paying you?

 

[konradv]

On the upside...

It's the Arctic so at least the sea levels won't rise...

I'm just a "glass half full" kind of guy...

Only if by some sort of magic only the ice on the sea melts. Arctic ice is only an indicator. If it melts, so would the ice on land, making sea levels rise.

 

[Old Rocks]

Greenland rapidly rising as ice melt continues

Greenland Rapidly Rising as Ice Melt Continues
ScienceDaily (May 18, 2010) — Greenland is situated in the Atlantic Ocean to the northeast of Canada. It has stunning fjords on its rocky coast formed by moving glaciers, and a dense icecap up to 2 km thick that covers much of the island--pressing down the land beneath and lowering its elevation. Now, scientists at the University of Miami say Greenland's ice is melting so quickly that the land underneath is rising at an accelerated pace.

According to the study, some coastal areas are going up by nearly one inch per year and if current trends continue, that number could accelerate to as much as two inches per year by 2025, explains Tim Dixon, professor of geophysics at the University of Miami Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric Science (RSMAS) and principal investigator of the study.

"It's been known for several years that climate change is contributing to the melting of Greenland's ice sheet," Dixon says. "What's surprising, and a bit worrisome, is that the ice is melting so fast that we can actually see the land uplift in response," he says. "Even more surprising, the rise seems to be accelerating, implying that melting is accelerating."

 

[Old Rocks]

NASA eyeballs glacial melt in Greenland - Capital Weather Gang

Recent studies have found that warming ocean temperatures may be responsible for much of the increased melting of Greenland's outlet glaciers, and this may be accelerating the melting of the larger Greenland ice sheet. For example, one study published in Nature Geoscience in February concluded that glaciers in west Greenland are melting 100 times faster at their undersea end points than on the surface.

This event would support the ocean-driven melt theory, according to a NASA ice specialist.

"While there have been ice breakouts of this magnitude from Jakonbshavn and other glaciers in the past, this event is unusual because it occurs on the heels of a warm winter that saw no sea ice form in the surrounding bay," said Thomas Wagner, cryospheric program scientist at NASA Headquarters, in a press release. "While the exact relationship between these events is being determined, it lends credence to the theory that warming of the oceans is responsible for the ice loss observed throughout Greenland and Antarctica."

 

[Old Rocks]

Greenland ice sheet faces 'tipping point in 10 years' | Environment | The Guardian

Greenland shed its largest chunk of ice in nearly half a century last week, and faces an even grimmer future, according to Richard Alley, a geosciences professor at Pennsylvania State University

"Sometime in the next decade we may pass that tipping point which would put us warmer than temperatures that Greenland can survive," Alley told a briefing in Congress, adding that a rise in the range of 2C to 7C would mean the obliteration of Greenland's ice sheet.

The fall-out would be felt thousands of miles away from the Arctic, unleashing a global sea level rise of 23ft (7 metres), Alley warned. Low-lying cities such as New Orleans would vanish.

"What is going on in the Arctic now is the biggest and fastest thing that nature has ever done," he said.

Speaking by phone, Alley was addressing a briefing held by the House of Representatives committee on energy independence and global warming.

Dr. Alley is an internationally known scientist, and was a lecturer at the 2009 AGU convention.

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[Chris]