Arctic devastated by massive burst of methane plumes!!

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But other researchers think the permafrost warming started only recently. "This is the first time in 12,000 years the Arctic Ocean has warmed up 7 degrees in the summer, and that's entirely new because the sea ice hasn't been there to hold the temperatures down," said Peter Wadhams, head of the Polar Ocean Physics Group at the University of Cambridge in the U.K.,


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Just curious.........scientists are alarmed. Why do the AGW climate crusaders ignore this like its not happening??


I think I know!!!!!:eusa_dance::eusa_dance::eusa_dance::eusa_dance::up:
 
They are not ignoring it. But it is a feedback effect, one we cannot control or change. And a lot more serious feedback effect than most realize.

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Arctic News High methane levels over the Arctic Ocean on February 17 2014

Since it is ocean temperatures that mostly control this feedback, that means that the present heat doing the damage was created many years back. And the heat going into the oceans today, will be causing further emissions many years from now. Going to be interesting, folks.
 
No worries here........looks like Long Island will be gone. So I move inland but most likely, I'll be in my box a long time. Cant worry about "damage"............a necessary tradeoff lest we be living in pre-industrial times in terms of everything we know. No thanks......I like my computer......I like I don't have to take a horse to work........I love my gas grill...........I like the life my disabled guys can live thanks to technology.......I hate candles..........NASCAR > chariots............I could go on and on.......

Nobody knew about damage 50 years ago..............so what can you do??!!:coffee:


Its like the financial system..........rigged for the ruling class. What can I do?
 
Granny not feedin' possum beans anymore so he won't poot an' release greenhouse gases...

Warming arctic could cost trillions of dollars
Sept. 22, 2015 - Previous models predict global warming's bill to total $326 trillion by 2200, but the new arctic analysis brings the expected loss total to $369 trillion.
The arctic is of immense environmental and ecological importance -- and of considerable economic value to humans. The arctic, however, is being transformed by climate change, and that transformation is doing environmental, ecological and economic damage. In a new study, researchers at the University of Cambridge tallied the economic damages of a melting, warming arctic. Their models predict an extra $43 trillion in economic damages by the end of the next century if the arctic is left to melt and greenhouse gas emissions continue at the same, business-as-usual rates.

Researchers used new data on the rapidly warming arctic to update previous models designed to estimate the economic costs of climate change -- models that total the potential costs of future catastrophes, diminished agricultural output, disappearing commercial fish stocks, higher air conditioning bills and other negative consequences of global warming. As previous research has shown, the arctic is caught in a vicious circle of climate change -- one that will affect the climate as a whole, if allowed to continue. As sea ice melts, the arctic tundra warms. And as the tundra warms, methane-emiting microorganisms are excited. More methane means more global warming. And more global warming means more melting. And the cycle repeats.

Warming-arctic-could-cost-trillions-of-dollars.jpg

The melting, warming arctic could cause trillions in economic damages.

Previous models predict global warming's bill to total $326 trillion by 2200, but the new arctic analysis brings the expected loss to $369 trillion. "These results show just how much we need urgent action to slow the melting of the permafrost in order to minimise the scale of the release of greenhouse gases," Chris Hope, Cambridge economist and co-auhtor of the new study, published in Nature Climate Change, said in a press release.

Researchers say policies to reduce greenhouse emissions could counteract the majority of the arctic's global warming contributions, but urgency is necessary. "We want to use these models to help us make better decisions -- linking scientific and economic models together is a way to help us do that," said Hope. "We need to estimate how much it will cost if we do nothing, how much it will cost if we do something, and how much we need to spend to cut back greenhouse gases."

Warming arctic could cost trillions of dollars

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Caribbean Braces for Worsening Drought as Dry Season Nears
September 22, 2015 — The most severe drought to hit the Caribbean in recent years is expected to worsen despite rains from tropical storms that have replenished some reservoirs.
Forecasters say the El Nino phenomenon is gathering strength and will continue to warm the tropical Pacific until early next year, which translates into sparse rainfall for this largely parched region as the dry season approaches. "The real concern will come late in the year,'' said Adrian Trotman, a forecaster with the Caribbean Institute for Meteorology and Hydrology. "We are definitely in a period of relief, but it's quite likely the relief will not be as long-lived as we would like it to be.'' The El Nino has produced a quiet hurricane season, which begins in June and ends in November. Only two of nine named storms dumped significant rainfall over parts of the Caribbean. The institute issued a report this month saying that many islands in the eastern Caribbean remain in drought, and officials warned that the current wet season will most likely end before the traditional date of November 30.

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An aerial photo shows a boat ramp and dock rising high above the waterline of La Plata reservoir in Toa Alta, Puerto Rico

Both Barbados and Grenada had their third-lowest rainfalls in recent history for August, while Haiti saw up to a 50 percent loss in crops in the hardest-hit areas, according to a report from the International Monetary Fund. The neighboring Dominican Republic saw its agricultural production drop nearly 11 percent as a result of drought, and dairy industry officials have warned that production could drop 30 percent by year's end. Jamaica also has struggled with crop losses, especially in the island's eastern region. "They are suffering terribly,'' said Leslie Simpson, a specialist with the Caribbean Agricultural Research and Development Institute. "It's really going to be more serious as we go into the dry season, not only for agriculture but for domestic consumption.''

8798BAD0-D4F2-4BE0-8D72-D2BFA89587A9_w640_s.jpg

A fish carcass litters the banks of the unusually low Carraizo reservoir in Trujillo Alto, Puerto Rico

Some islands, including the Bahamas and Cuba, have had some relief in recent months, and more rain is forecast for them than anywhere else in the Caribbean in the coming months. Severe drought also has ebbed somewhat in Puerto Rico, where officials this week eased austere water-rationing measures. However, 19 percent of the island remains under an extreme drought and 45 percent more is under a severe one. The Caribbean Agricultural Research and Development Institute is encouraging farmers to find new irrigation methods and better manage existing resources. "They are predicting more frequent droughts,'' Simpson said. "This is just the beginning.''

Caribbean Braces for Worsening Drought as Dry Season Nears
 
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During el nino the Caribbean gets less rain. This happens every 5-7 years or so. It is a normal cycle.
Granny not feedin' possum beans anymore so he won't poot an' release greenhouse gases...

Warming arctic could cost trillions of dollars
Sept. 22, 2015 - Previous models predict global warming's bill to total $326 trillion by 2200, but the new arctic analysis brings the expected loss total to $369 trillion.
The arctic is of immense environmental and ecological importance -- and of considerable economic value to humans. The arctic, however, is being transformed by climate change, and that transformation is doing environmental, ecological and economic damage. In a new study, researchers at the University of Cambridge tallied the economic damages of a melting, warming arctic. Their models predict an extra $43 trillion in economic damages by the end of the next century if the arctic is left to melt and greenhouse gas emissions continue at the same, business-as-usual rates.

Researchers used new data on the rapidly warming arctic to update previous models designed to estimate the economic costs of climate change -- models that total the potential costs of future catastrophes, diminished agricultural output, disappearing commercial fish stocks, higher air conditioning bills and other negative consequences of global warming. As previous research has shown, the arctic is caught in a vicious circle of climate change -- one that will affect the climate as a whole, if allowed to continue. As sea ice melts, the arctic tundra warms. And as the tundra warms, methane-emiting microorganisms are excited. More methane means more global warming. And more global warming means more melting. And the cycle repeats.

Warming-arctic-could-cost-trillions-of-dollars.jpg

The melting, warming arctic could cause trillions in economic damages.

Previous models predict global warming's bill to total $326 trillion by 2200, but the new arctic analysis brings the expected loss to $369 trillion. "These results show just how much we need urgent action to slow the melting of the permafrost in order to minimise the scale of the release of greenhouse gases," Chris Hope, Cambridge economist and co-auhtor of the new study, published in Nature Climate Change, said in a press release.

Researchers say policies to reduce greenhouse emissions could counteract the majority of the arctic's global warming contributions, but urgency is necessary. "We want to use these models to help us make better decisions -- linking scientific and economic models together is a way to help us do that," said Hope. "We need to estimate how much it will cost if we do nothing, how much it will cost if we do something, and how much we need to spend to cut back greenhouse gases."

Warming arctic could cost trillions of dollars

See also:

Caribbean Braces for Worsening Drought as Dry Season Nears
September 22, 2015 — The most severe drought to hit the Caribbean in recent years is expected to worsen despite rains from tropical storms that have replenished some reservoirs.
Forecasters say the El Nino phenomenon is gathering strength and will continue to warm the tropical Pacific until early next year, which translates into sparse rainfall for this largely parched region as the dry season approaches. "The real concern will come late in the year,'' said Adrian Trotman, a forecaster with the Caribbean Institute for Meteorology and Hydrology. "We are definitely in a period of relief, but it's quite likely the relief will not be as long-lived as we would like it to be.'' The El Nino has produced a quiet hurricane season, which begins in June and ends in November. Only two of nine named storms dumped significant rainfall over parts of the Caribbean. The institute issued a report this month saying that many islands in the eastern Caribbean remain in drought, and officials warned that the current wet season will most likely end before the traditional date of November 30.

1BD716B3-13FB-4400-9FB4-FC0218F17D4E_w640_r1_s_cx0_cy6_cw0.jpg

An aerial photo shows a boat ramp and dock rising high above the waterline of La Plata reservoir in Toa Alta, Puerto Rico

Both Barbados and Grenada had their third-lowest rainfalls in recent history for August, while Haiti saw up to a 50 percent loss in crops in the hardest-hit areas, according to a report from the International Monetary Fund. The neighboring Dominican Republic saw its agricultural production drop nearly 11 percent as a result of drought, and dairy industry officials have warned that production could drop 30 percent by year's end. Jamaica also has struggled with crop losses, especially in the island's eastern region. "They are suffering terribly,'' said Leslie Simpson, a specialist with the Caribbean Agricultural Research and Development Institute. "It's really going to be more serious as we go into the dry season, not only for agriculture but for domestic consumption.''

8798BAD0-D4F2-4BE0-8D72-D2BFA89587A9_w640_s.jpg

A fish carcass litters the banks of the unusually low Carraizo reservoir in Trujillo Alto, Puerto Rico

Some islands, including the Bahamas and Cuba, have had some relief in recent months, and more rain is forecast for them than anywhere else in the Caribbean in the coming months. Severe drought also has ebbed somewhat in Puerto Rico, where officials this week eased austere water-rationing measures. However, 19 percent of the island remains under an extreme drought and 45 percent more is under a severe one. The Caribbean Agricultural Research and Development Institute is encouraging farmers to find new irrigation methods and better manage existing resources. "They are predicting more frequent droughts,'' Simpson said. "This is just the beginning.''

Caribbean Braces for Worsening Drought as Dry Season Nears
 
These guys found A methane plume. Good for them. Been KNOWN this is common occurance.
The issue is establishing an INCREASE in the gross emissions from those specific areas. Should probably match that with seismic activity as well. Because ANYTHING that rearranges that ocean sloped floor will change the way Methane escapes from those depths.

Russia will probably end up drilling for the stuff eventually. THey will seek out "hot spots" and fix them.. :badgrin:
 

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