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Checkpoints are no solution, I more then agree.
Terror should be dealt by other meanings.
Hope someone will come with an original idea
No justice, no peace. A voice of reason.
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Can you define "justice"
Because Israelis and Palestinians see justice differently.
I'm waiting for anyone to prove anything about the existence of god before I'll believe it.What? You don't care that your hero is delusional? Or you don't care that people know that you worship the delusional? Or that you're delusional yourself for thinking that any god said anything to Jews.
My "Hero"?
You are very wrong.
Tzi Kolitz is an author, who wrote a book called "Yosl Rekover speaks to God". The quote is from the book.
I felt the quote was right to the point, but from that to hero? lol.
There are only few people in the world which I consider as "heros", and they are surly not delusional, I can promise you.
I take it you're an atheist?
Can you define "justice"
Because Israelis and Palestinians see justice differently.
A body of international law already exists. Many Palestinians have been calling for years that peace should be based on international law. Israel avoids the law like it was the plague.
It is easy to see who sits on what side of justice.
Can you define "justice"
Because Israelis and Palestinians see justice differently.
A body of international law already exists. Many Palestinians have been calling for years that peace should be based on international law. Israel avoids the law like it was the plague.
It is easy to see who sits on what side of justice.
International law is based on nothing, just like the biased political organization known as the UN.
Law does not mean justice, and it is not made to make justice. It is made in order to make less headaches to people that at many times don't know what they're talking about.
A body of international law already exists. Many Palestinians have been calling for years that peace should be based on international law. Israel avoids the law like it was the plague.
It is easy to see who sits on what side of justice.
International law is based on nothing, just like the biased political organization known as the UN.
Law does not mean justice, and it is not made to make justice. It is made in order to make less headaches to people that at many times don't know what they're talking about.
See what I mean.
International law is based on nothing, just like the biased political organization known as the UN.
Law does not mean justice, and it is not made to make justice. It is made in order to make less headaches to people that at many times don't know what they're talking about.
See what I mean.
I am not yet convinced the international law does justice with both sides; that's all i'm saying.
See what I mean.
I am not yet convinced the international law does justice with both sides; that's all i'm saying.
One of those laws state that it is inadmissible to acquire land through the threat or use of force. Similar to thou shalt not steal.
Does that law do justice to both sides?
I am not yet convinced the international law does justice with both sides; that's all i'm saying.
One of those laws state that it is inadmissible to acquire land through the threat or use of force. Similar to thou shalt not steal.
Does that law do justice to both sides?
In theory yes.
But israel does not steal anything.
Since we have already discussed that the WB never belonged to Jordan. and Israel is not "occupying" Gaza.
Since we have already discussed that the WB never belonged to Jordan.
One of those laws state that it is inadmissible to acquire land through the threat or use of force. Similar to thou shalt not steal.
Does that law do justice to both sides?
In theory yes.
But israel does not steal anything.
Since we have already discussed that the WB never belonged to Jordan. and Israel is not "occupying" Gaza.
Since we have already discussed that the WB never belonged to Jordan.
That is true. It was occupied Palestinian land. Don't you think it odd that Israel claims it won land from Jordan that did not belong to Jordan? How does that work?
The problem was suicide bombers and murdering raiders and the solution and deterrent was putting up a wall. Kinda like.Domestic violence is so prevalent in the US That we have special laws for it.
Well good for you.You allow every nutjob to hold a gun, so obviously you'll need laws to control violence
That's like building a hospital next to a broken bridge instead of fixing the bridge itself.
You Americans are weird, sometimes.
Kinda like putting up a wall and checkpoints instead of solving the actual problem?
Don't forget, Tinwhistle, the Germans weren't allowed to have guns either. Ever wonder why that was? If Americans were not allowed to own guns what path do you think Sheikh Husseins (PBUH) actions would take?Domestic violence is so prevalent in the US That we have special laws for it.
Well good for you.
That's like building a hospital next to a broken bridge instead of fixing the bridge itself.
You Americans are weird, sometimes.
The Jews in Germany did not have the right to bear arms. Would history have been different?
In theory yes.
But israel does not steal anything.
Since we have already discussed that the WB never belonged to Jordan. and Israel is not "occupying" Gaza.
Since we have already discussed that the WB never belonged to Jordan.
That is true. It was occupied Palestinian land. Don't you think it odd that Israel claims it won land from Jordan that did not belong to Jordan? How does that work?
It belonges to Israel.
That is true. It was occupied Palestinian land. Don't you think it odd that Israel claims it won land from Jordan that did not belong to Jordan? How does that work?
It belonges to Israel.
When did that happen?
Which country/religion is the greatest purveyor of violence on this planet?
SURIF, West Bank -- A 20-year-old Palestinian woman who was thrown into a well and left to die in the name of "family honor" has not become just another statistic in one of the Middle East's most shameful practices.
The killing of Aya Baradiya by an uncle who didn't like a potential suitor sparked such outrage that Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas scrapped laws this week that guaranteed sentences of six months or less for such killings.
On the day of the killing, the uncle and two accomplices snatched the woman and tied her hands and feet, Hebron police chief Ramadan Awad said. The suspects told interrogators she screamed and demanded to know why they wanted to kill her, but the uncle said only that she deserved to die, he said. She told them she had done nothing wrong, then her attackers dumped her into the well The water would have reached to her neck, Awad said, adding: "We can't be sure ... if she died immediately or it took her a long time to die."
So-called "honor killings" are committed regularly in traditional Arab societies that enforce strict separation between the sexes and view an unmarried woman's unsupervised contact with a man, even by telephone, as a stain on the family's reputation. There were nine such killings in the West Bank last year, and Jordan reports about 20 every year.
The police chief said suspects in honor killings often come forward immediately because they don't face serious punishment and a confession is part of the "cleansing" of family honor. However, Aya Baradiya's uncle remained silent, even saying at one point that his niece had called him and told him she just decided to go away.
Leniency for honor killings dates back to a 1960 Jordanian legal codex, parts of which are still in effect in the West Bank; the area was under Jordanian rule until it was captured by Israel in 1967. Awad, the Hebron police chief, said that under the old system, someone who killed for family honor would get a maximum of six months in prison.
In 2010, there were nine family honor killings in the West Bank, Awad said. In most cases, "family honor" was just a pretext, he added: Men would kill to clear the path for remarriage, get their wives' gold or because of problems in the family. The tougher new laws will likely reduce the number of such killings, he said.
In Hamas-ruled Gaza, at least 10 women were killed by male relatives over the past three years, according to a local activist, Majda Ibrahim. She said punishment is generally light, though in one case, a man was sentenced to death for killing his cousin after she rejected his marriage proposal. The man is on death row.
Palestinian Woman Aya Baradiya's 'Honor' Killing Sparks Tougher West Bank Laws
Winston Churchill...
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.
The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.
Amazon.com: The River War (9781598184259): Sir Winston S. Churchill: Books
Which country/religion is the greatest purveyor of violence on this planet?
SURIF, West Bank -- A 20-year-old Palestinian woman who was thrown into a well and left to die in the name of "family honor" has not become just another statistic in one of the Middle East's most shameful practices.
The killing of Aya Baradiya – by an uncle who didn't like a potential suitor – sparked such outrage that Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas scrapped laws this week that guaranteed sentences of six months or less for such killings.
On the day of the killing, the uncle and two accomplices snatched the woman and tied her hands and feet, Hebron police chief Ramadan Awad said. The suspects told interrogators she screamed and demanded to know why they wanted to kill her, but the uncle said only that she deserved to die, he said. She told them she had done nothing wrong, then her attackers dumped her into the well The water would have reached to her neck, Awad said, adding: "We can't be sure ... if she died immediately or it took her a long time to die."
So-called "honor killings" are committed regularly in traditional Arab societies that enforce strict separation between the sexes and view an unmarried woman's unsupervised contact with a man, even by telephone, as a stain on the family's reputation. There were nine such killings in the West Bank last year, and Jordan reports about 20 every year.
The police chief said suspects in honor killings often come forward immediately because they don't face serious punishment and a confession is part of the "cleansing" of family honor. However, Aya Baradiya's uncle remained silent, even saying at one point that his niece had called him and told him she just decided to go away.
Leniency for honor killings dates back to a 1960 Jordanian legal codex, parts of which are still in effect in the West Bank; the area was under Jordanian rule until it was captured by Israel in 1967. Awad, the Hebron police chief, said that under the old system, someone who killed for family honor would get a maximum of six months in prison.
In 2010, there were nine family honor killings in the West Bank, Awad said. In most cases, "family honor" was just a pretext, he added: Men would kill to clear the path for remarriage, get their wives' gold or because of problems in the family. The tougher new laws will likely reduce the number of such killings, he said.
In Hamas-ruled Gaza, at least 10 women were killed by male relatives over the past three years, according to a local activist, Majda Ibrahim. She said punishment is generally light, though in one case, a man was sentenced to death for killing his cousin after she rejected his marriage proposal. The man is on death row.
Palestinian Woman Aya Baradiya's 'Honor' Killing Sparks Tougher West Bank Laws
Winston Churchill...
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.
The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.
Amazon.com: The River War (9781598184259): Sir Winston S. Churchill: Books
"These results provide strong evidence that the Gulf war and trade sanctions caused a threefold increase in mortality among Iraqi children under five years of age. We estimate that an excess of more than 46,900 children died between January and August 1991. (N Engl J Med 1992;327:931–6.)"
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If one looks at most of this world, especially the Middle East, one country stands out as a foundation of stability and as a pillar of democracy. And at a time like this, when you have revolution in Yemen, Bahrain, Syria, Egypt, Tunisia and Jordan, thank God we have Israel.
http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=252905
Which geek/ideots is the greatest purveyor of bull crap on the face of this planet? PFTinmore or GeorgePhillip?Which country/religion is the greatest purveyor of violence on this planet?
SURIF, West Bank -- A 20-year-old Palestinian woman who was thrown into a well and left to die in the name of "family honor" has not become just another statistic in one of the Middle East's most shameful practices.
The killing of Aya Baradiya by an uncle who didn't like a potential suitor sparked such outrage that Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas scrapped laws this week that guaranteed sentences of six months or less for such killings.
On the day of the killing, the uncle and two accomplices snatched the woman and tied her hands and feet, Hebron police chief Ramadan Awad said. The suspects told interrogators she screamed and demanded to know why they wanted to kill her, but the uncle said only that she deserved to die, he said. She told them she had done nothing wrong, then her attackers dumped her into the well The water would have reached to her neck, Awad said, adding: "We can't be sure ... if she died immediately or it took her a long time to die."
So-called "honor killings" are committed regularly in traditional Arab societies that enforce strict separation between the sexes and view an unmarried woman's unsupervised contact with a man, even by telephone, as a stain on the family's reputation. There were nine such killings in the West Bank last year, and Jordan reports about 20 every year.
The police chief said suspects in honor killings often come forward immediately because they don't face serious punishment and a confession is part of the "cleansing" of family honor. However, Aya Baradiya's uncle remained silent, even saying at one point that his niece had called him and told him she just decided to go away.
Leniency for honor killings dates back to a 1960 Jordanian legal codex, parts of which are still in effect in the West Bank; the area was under Jordanian rule until it was captured by Israel in 1967. Awad, the Hebron police chief, said that under the old system, someone who killed for family honor would get a maximum of six months in prison.
In 2010, there were nine family honor killings in the West Bank, Awad said. In most cases, "family honor" was just a pretext, he added: Men would kill to clear the path for remarriage, get their wives' gold or because of problems in the family. The tougher new laws will likely reduce the number of such killings, he said.
In Hamas-ruled Gaza, at least 10 women were killed by male relatives over the past three years, according to a local activist, Majda Ibrahim. She said punishment is generally light, though in one case, a man was sentenced to death for killing his cousin after she rejected his marriage proposal. The man is on death row.
Palestinian Woman Aya Baradiya's 'Honor' Killing Sparks Tougher West Bank Laws
Winston Churchill...
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.
The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.
Amazon.com: The River War (9781598184259): Sir Winston S. Churchill: Books
"These results provide strong evidence that the Gulf war and trade sanctions caused a threefold increase in mortality among Iraqi children under five years of age. We estimate that an excess of more than 46,900 children died between January and August 1991. (N Engl J Med 1992;327:9316.)"
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How many US children have Arabs killed lately?
How much profit have rich Muslims earned from murdering American children?
The genocide in Darfur has claimed 400,000 lives and displaced over 2,500,000 people. More than one hundred people continue to die each day; five thousand die every month.
Since February 2003, the Sudanese government in Khartoum and the government-sponsored Janjaweed militia have used rape, displacement, organized starvation, threats against aid workers and mass murder. Violence, disease, and displacement continue to kill thousands of innocent Darfurians every month.
Genocide in Darfur, Sudan | Darfur Scorecard
