Appropriate Choir Song in Public School?

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    1. "A Colorado high school student quit the school choir after an Islamic song containing the lyric "there is no other truth except Allah" found its way into the chorus.

    2. James Harper, a senior at Grand Junction High School in Grand Junction, put his objection to singing "Zikr," a song written by Indian composer A.R. Rahman, in an email to Mesa County School District 51 officials.

    3. ...I really don’t feel it is appropriate for students in a public high school to be singing an Islamic worship song,” Harper told KREX-TV. "This is worshipping another God, and even worshipping another prophet ... I think there would be a lot of outrage if we made a Muslim choir say Jesus Christ is the only truth."

    4. But district spokesman Jeff Kirtland defended the decision to include the Islamic song:
    "Choral music is often devoted to religious themes. ... This is not a case where the school is endorsing or promoting any particular religion or other non-educational agenda.

    5. ... the choir "is a voluntary, after-school activity." "Students are not required to participate, and receive no academic credit for doing so," he said."
    ‘There Is No Truth Except Allah’: Colorado Student Quits High School Choir Over Islamic Song - Yahoo! News

    6. The song includes the following in Urdu:
    The breeze from the Friend has spread wounds like flowers
    With blood is watered the rose-garden of the Ahlul Bayt!
    The houris themselves bedeck the brides of martyrdom
    Like a handsome groom today every youth of the Ahlul Bayt
    The blood from the swords served as a sighting of the Eid moon
    Thus do they break their fasts today, those fasting from the Ahlul Bayt!
    It is Friday and with their lives they are firmly resolved
    To lay down their lives, these Princes of the Ahlul Bayt
    What joyous bliss is this they experience, from the water o’ the Friend’s sword
    Amidst the blood and dust, the thirsty of the Ahlul Bayt?
    Heads of the martyrs of love are raised atop lances, spears
    God has elevated even higher the status of the Ahlul Bayt!
    Translation of "Zikr e Shahadat"by Mawlana Hassan Raza Khan. - Masabih Islamic Forum

    786MAWJ, AR Rahman Zikr-e-Allahu
     
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    Were's the ACLU?
     
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    They're busy making sure that church folks can't meet in NYC schools on Sunday.
     
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    Only songs that say god should be allowed?

    So when kids sing Jimmy cracked corn are we to believe they truely dont care?

    Or are they signing a song the way its written?
     
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    Why the hell are they singing this shit anyway?

    What's wrong with just doing "For The Longest Time" in acapella?
     
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    They don't seem to have a problem with muslim foot baths in public universities either:confused:


    Some U.S. universities install foot baths for Muslim students - The New York Times
     
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    Just need to be clear that you feel that the value of diversity is served by this particular
    song, which includes images hardly of serenity....

    spread wounds like flowers
    With blood is watered
    The houris themselves bedeck the brides of martyrdom
    The blood from the swords
    What joyous bliss is this they experience, from the water o’ the Friend’s sword
    Amidst the blood and dust,
    Heads of the martyrs of love are raised atop lances, spears


    No objections?
    You sure?
     
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    We sang Hallelujah Chorus in High School...many moons ago..

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqaAUr4Zee4]The Hallelujah Chorus- Lyrics- Handel's Messiah - YouTube[/ame]

    Shocking, I know.

    Though there are no references to blood, wounds, or anything like that....

    Funny, kids who even joke about shooting or slicing each other in GRADE SCHOOL (2nd grade) get sent home, there's no tolerance for THAT. I know because my son almost got tossed from his after school program on the school grounds because he pretended to shoot at someone with a tiny lego thing. Less than an inch in size. I was told they had zero tolerance for that sort of thing, and if it happened again he'd have to go.
     
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    Second Grade Student Suspended for Drawing Stick Figure Firing Gun

    Read more: Second Grade Student Suspended for Drawing Stick Figure Firing Gun | Fox News
     
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    Those aren't the lyrics to the song in question.

    These are:
    A. R. Rahman Zikr Lyrics
     

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