Apply conservative valued to immigration reform

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    When possible I agree we should have solutions to social problems that cost the least and require a minimal amount of government intervention; conservative values.

    The Arizona solution put together by conservatives costs more money and involves more governemnt than is necessary.

    Go after the businesses employing the illegals rather than the illegals. If the jobs are not there, the illegals will not come and the majority will leave.
    It requires less money and less government to go check thousands of businesses rather than millions of people.

    The reason Arizona conservatives and national conservatives do not go after businesses is because that is their base and those are the ones that donate to their campaign.
     
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    Getting rid of the socialistic welfare state and ending the brain dead "war" on (some) drugs is the real old school conservative approach to this, as those who came to America would have to pull their own weight.

    But even talk about paring back those fool policies, and the left would mess their pants on a daily basis.
     
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    I do not disagree with you totally on the two issues.

    But those issues can be dealt with seperately.

    In the mean time, I feel the most efficient and effective way to reduce illegal immigrants in the US is to go after the businesses who hire the illegals .
    I feel the majority of illegals come for jobs not the social programs. Once they get here they end up falling into the social welfare programs because of the dirt wages and benefit they get in the jobs.
    If you eliminate the jobs the majority will stop coming and the majority will leave.
     
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    No, they can't be dealt with separately, as they are part and parcel to the problem.

    In the meantime, federal ignoring of and refusal to enforce their own laws is going to leave the states no choice but to act on their own to do so.

    Deal with it.
     
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    once again you stupid ignorant asshole,, going after business does nothing to stop the drug cartels, murders, kidnapping and illegal drug smuggling so stick that "go after business meme up yer arizona azz.
     
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    Can we go after the people registering them to vote?

    Can we go after the schools that educate them and the hospitals that treat them?
     
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    You have a pea brain.

    The drug smugglers and the cartel drug wars is different from the illegals coming here tom work.
    If you solve the problem of illegal immigrants coming here to work, you would still have the problem of illegal drug smugglers and drug wars.

    Both have to be dealt with but there are seperate solutions.

    You are absolutely wacko. One minute you are using goofy baby or kitten talk then the next minute you are angry and cussing like a sailor.
     
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    The problem in the border cities and states isn't with the migrant workers, it's with the extremely violent drug gangs....This is where several bad policies meet to create a bigger problem than the sum of their parts.
     
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    Stop the jobs. Then we will not have illegals coming using our schools, medical care or trying to vote.
     
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    Why should schools and hospitals be left off the hook for enforcing the law?

    Besides that, drug gang hooligans aren't interested in normal jobs..
     

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