Application for Withdrawal from Social Security.

[Hillbilly123069]

I didn't know we could refuse to pay into SSI.
copy and paste

ssa.gov/online/ssa-521.pdf

 

[loosecannon]

you can't, that form allows you appeal to cancel a claim. You still have to pay FICA if you have income and a SS number.

 

[Truthmatters]

Well you can get out of paying into SS by giving up your citizenship and moving to another country.

 

[del]

Well you can get out of paying into SS by giving up your citizenship and moving to another country.

how's that working out?

 

[uscitizen]

Ask Rush wasn't he going to move someplace if the Health care bill passed?

Ohh wait it will be a few more years.
"I don't know. I'll just tell you this, if this passes and it's five years from now and all that stuff gets implemented -- I am leaving the country. I'll go to Costa Rica."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/09/limbaugh-ill-leave-us-if_n_491536.html

 

[Truthmatters]

Somewhere like the place he went with a shitload of viagra?

 

[FireFly]

A close review of the Code and the regulations pertaining to the supplying of a social security number will reveal that there is no law requiring an individual to provide an employer with a social security number or a W-4 form. The most the employer is required to do is to request a social security number and W-4 form.

The Internal Revenue Code 6109(a)(3) states:

Any person required under the authority of this title to make a return, statement or other document with respect to another person shall request from such other person, and shall include in any return, statement, or other document, such identifying number as may be prescribed for securing proper identification of such other person. 26 U.S.C. 6109(a)(3)

The regulation interpreting section 26 CFR 301.6109-1(c) provides:

If he does not know the taxpayer identifying number of the other person, he shall request such a number of the other person. A request should state that the identifying number is required to be furnished under authority of law. When the person filing the return, statement, or other document does not know the number of the other person, and has complied with the request provision of this paragraph, he shall sign an affidavit on the transmittal document forwarding such returns, statements, or other documents to the Internal Revenue Service so stating. 26 CFR 301.6109-1(c)

If a document must be filed and the employer has been unable to obtain the number but has made the request, then the employer needs only to include an affidavit stating that the request was made.

The Internal Revenue Code section 6723 states:

In the case of a failure by any person to comply with a specified information reporting requirement on or before the time prescribed therefore, such person shall pay a penalty of $50 for each failure. 26 U.S.C. 6723. (In part.)

However, Internal Revenue Code section 6724(a) provides for a waiver of any penalties assessed under the Code upon a showing of reasonable cause. Section 6724(a) provides:

No penalty shall be imposed under this part with respect to any failure if it is shown that such failure is due to reasonable cause and not to willful neglect. 26 U.S.C. 6724(a).

Since the Internal Revenue Code provides a waiver of any penalties for "any failure" to obtain a social security number, it is not mandatory that the employer obtain such a number or supply such a number to the Internal Revenue Service. The fact that an individual will not sign a tax form or supply a number after the employer has made the request, eliminates willful neglect on the part of the employer.

Even under the Immigration Reform and Control Act, codified at 8 U.S.C. 1324a(b), documents other than a social security card can be used for identification purposes; a birth certificate being one of them.

If you have signed a W-4 form with your current employer you have admitted, under penalty of perjury, that you are liable for the "income" tax. You have admitted that you are a "taxpayer". If you think you can argue with old recycled schemes of not paying the tax, you are in for a rude awakening. The IRS is a force to be reckoned with.

If you have been told that filing a "zero-return", or claiming "exempt" on the W-4, along with other detax legends, are going to make you not liable for or subject to the income tax or social security tax, you have been deceived by people who are looking to make big money off of your well intended search for the truth.

The truth is, you do not have to sign the W-4 and you do not have to give your social security number to your employer. It is not mandatory to do these things in order to live and work in the United States if you are a citizen. Write to the Social Security Administration today and ask them "Is a United States Citizen required to have a Social Security number to live and work in the United States?" Their answer will astonish you. Their answer is NO.

"A person does not need a Social Security Number to live and work in the United States and does not need a number just for the sake of having one". Social Security Administration, Baltimore, Maryland

As a matter of fact, the Official Social Security Website gives a list of agencies that require the Social Security number and specifically says:

"If a business or other enterprise asks you for your SSN, you can refuse to give it." Official Website of the Social Security Administration

If you check the Official Social Security Website (Social Security Online - The Official Website of the U.S. Social Security Administration ) your see how they handle words to mislead. They mention laws, but there are no "laws" in the Code, just statutes. These are technically public policy. To be accurate, all that the quote from the site does is SUGGEST that these are the rules. There is NO quotation from the statutory "code." The terms, "employer" or "business", is on their list of agencies that require the number. but they do not quote the statutory code.

Not all businesses will accept a new employee without a social security number or a signed W-4 form. Is it illegal for a business to refuse you service or refuse to hire you because you do not wish to disclose your number or sign the W-4 form? It certainly is.

Here are 3 important questions people have concerning their employers:

How can I work unless I give my employer the social security number he requested and sign the W-4 form?

It is by filling out the W-4 form and disclosing your social security number that makes every American citizen subject to and liable for the income tax.

What if I have already signed the W-4 form?

You can revoke your signature and social security number from ever being used by your current employer which will stop them from releasing your information to a third party. The benefits are: You get 100% of your paycheck. Remember, greed is wanting more than what is rightfully yours. If a person makes $500 per week, they should be paid $500 per
week. This is not greed, this is a persons secured right.

What can you do? File your UCC-1 claim on the CORPORATION that carries your name in their ledgers and take control of your Treasury Direct Account. You are considered a citizen of a Federal territory because of Fourteenth Amendment citizenship. Since you have not objected to your status as a subject of the Federal jurisdiction, you may be presumed to be content with your Federal citizenship. To guide you through the legal brambles to freedom you will need the help of an experienced advisor.

 

[Big Black Dog]

Well you can get out of paying into SS by giving up your citizenship and moving to another country.

Also if you die they quit taking social security out of your paycheck.

 

[Truthmatters]

If you hate SS move away

 

[Paulie]

If you hate SS move away

You hate republicans, so if they take control of congress or at least gridlock your dems, I'll be looking for you to be moving away your DAMN self.

 

[uscitizen]

Move away?
The stupit right wingers are so entertaining to watch self destruct.

 

[loosecannon]

Move away?
The stupit right wingers are so entertaining to watch self destruct.

you are morphing into Douger.

 

[Tank]

Well you can get out of paying into SS by giving up your citizenship and moving to another country.

Or just work illegaly in America.