Apple's New Wind Tech Design Generates and Stores Heat

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    Apple's New Wind Tech Design Generates and Stores Heat


    Apple's New Wind Tech Design Generates and Stores Heat : TreeHugger
     
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    I prefer the pumping of water to high ground as a storage, its hard to keep heat contained, a lot of wastage, but its nice to see apple trying.
     
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    The inefficiencies for such a process would be enormous.
     
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    As inefficient as shutting the mill down when we have too much generation?
     
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    It's already inefficent as most of the heat doesn't go to energy. This is just taking that "waste" heat and directly turning it to electricy.
     
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    There is no "waste heat" from wind power generation. what they are talking about is converting the electric power to heat and storing that heat instead of storing the electric power in batteries. there would be in inevitable loss of at least 60% of the power generated when the heat is converted back to electricity again. The most efficient coal fired plants convert less than 40% of the energy from coal into electricity.
     
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    While there is a large push for alternative energy programs in the states, most would not think that those on the frontlines are also participating in this effort by converting everyday waste into energy. The Tactical Garbage to Energy Refinery II prototype (TGER) is a trailer-towed machine that uses everyday waste and garbage to generate both electricity and fuel for a generator.
     
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    Shut the FUCK UP....you're post are irrelevants at this time so why bother with center of attention crap.
     
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    Here's a link 4-5years ago:
    Flexible Nanoantenna Arrays Capture Abundant Solar Energy

    1) nanoantennas also have the potential to act as cooling devices that draw waste heat from buildings or electronics without using electricity.
    The nanoantennas target mid-infrared rays, which the Earth continuously radiates as heat after absorbing energy from the sun during the day.

    [C] nfrared radiation is an especially rich energy source because it also is generated by industrial processes such as coal-fired plants.

    [D] Every process in our industrial world creates waste heat," says INL physicist Steven Novack. "It's energy that we just throw away."

    [E] The nanoantennas are tiny gold squares or spirals set in a specially treated form of polyethylene, a material used in plastic bags. While others have successfully invented antennas that collect energy from lower-frequency regions of the electromagnetic spectrum, such as microwaves, infrared rays have proven more elusive. Part of the reason is that materials' properties change drastically at high-frequency wavelengths, Kotter says.
     
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    So-called "concept" or theoretical patents are issued all the time. Sometimes the stuff is actually built but most of the time it isn't.
     

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