Apologies Are a Joke

[protectionist]

FALSE! Apologies are worse, because they're

I'm sorry (OK that's BS) but not all apologies are BS. Have you never given someone a sincere apology?

An apology is, literally, the least you can do. Sincere or not, it is an admission of guilt. If you can't even do that, you're saying "I did nothing wrong".

I have never heard Trump apologize for anything. The closest I've heard is him blaming some unnamed person for giving him incorrect information. Someone who can't admit he was wrong is also incapable of accepting that others may be right and that he should take their advice. Such arrogance in a powerful man is dangerous.

1. I do remember Trump admitting being wrong afew times. Example: he said he shouldn't have revised his original Muslim ban.
2. Apology is not the least you can do for the victim. It's not for the victim
It's for the apologizer.
3. You want to do something for the victim ? Then ATTONE. Sacrifice something.

1. Trump's original Muslim ban was unconstitutional. He HAD to revise it.

2. An apology is actually for both the victim and the apologizer, because it is an acknowledgement that there was a wrong committed, and the aplogizer is recognizing that the behavior was inappropriate and in the apology, the victim gets acknowledgement that a wrong was committed.

3. I think you are a bit confused about the word "atone". Atonement is something that the perpetrator does to correct a wrong to the victim. Here, lemmie help you out with the definition from Dictionary.com.

atone

[uh-tohn]

verb (used without object), atoned, atoning.
1. to make amends or reparaton, as for an offense or a crime, or for an offender (usually followed by for):
to atone for one's sins.
2. to make up, as for errors or deficiencies (usually followed by for):
to atone for one's failings.
3. Obsolete. to become reconciled; agree.
verb (used with object), atoned, atoning.
4. to make amends for; expiate:
He atoned his sins.
5. Obsolete. to bring into unity, harmony, concord, etc.


Vocabulary wasn't your strong suit in school, was it?

1. Muslim ban was upheld by the SCOTUS.
2. FALSE! Apologies are for the apologizer.
3. You think wrong. Your posted definition confirmed exactly what I said and meant. It's you who is confused.
4. Maybe you can afford to engage in a conversation. I can,t. I have only 500 MB per month from Assurance Wireless, and I'm typing on a cell phone
So I'm off the computer now. Go ahead and post again now, knowing I can' t answer, if you're enough of a coward to do that.

Not my fault that you don't understand the English language and think that the definitions from the dictionary are wrong. Like I said, apparently vocabulary wasn't your strong suit in high school.

As far as you saying you can't afford to engage in conversation? Are you serious? You seem to post more on these boards than I do, and I'm retired.

And, it's not my fault if you can't answer because you don't have enough money, which is why you are trying to call me a coward for answering you. Either (a) get a better internet plan, (b) get a better paying job, or a second job so you can afford your USMB habit, or (c) quit trying to use your perceived poverty as a way to convince yourself you won, nobody else is gonna buy it either.

Can you read ? LOL. I said I agreed with your definition.

I don't care what people "buy". I just state things as they are, which you are in no position to cast judgement about.
And I don't need coaching from you.

I don't do jobs. I'm out of the workforce for 9 years now. Am retired.

 

[protectionist]

Did any of these guys apologize?
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Richard A. Delgaudio, Republican fundraiser and Bush pioneer, was found guilty of child porn charges. [34]

Peter Dibble, Republican legislator pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl. [35]

Nicholas Elizondo, Director of the Young Republican Federation molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison. [36]

Larry Dale Floyd, Republican Constable in Denton County, Texas Precinct Two. Arrested for allegedly crossing state lines to have sex with an 8-year old child and was charged with 7 related offenses. Age 62 at time of arrest. [37][38]

John Fund, of the Wall Street Journal, a prominent anti-abortion columnist and GOP fund raiser. He lost his position after it was revealed that he impregnated the daughter of an old girlfriend and then encouraged her to abort his child. [39]

Jeff Gannon Partisan blogger with no journalism credentials and a fake name who got invited to Bush's Press conferences. Is also a pimp and a gay prostitute.[40]

Jack W. Gardner, Republican Councilman, had been convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl. when the Republican Party, knowing of these crimes, put him on the ballot.[41]

Richard Gardner, a Nevada State Representative (R), admitted to molesting his two daughters. [42]

Newt Gingrich, married three times. Gingrich campaign worker Anne Manning admitted that she gave Newt oral sex while he was still married to his first wife. Informed one wife he was filing for divorce while she was in the hospital recovering from cancer treatments.[43]

Good for them if they didn't. There's enough self-serving talk going on already.

 

[DarkFury]

You got something like 25 or 30 liberal men accused.
What's that say about just how smart the average liberal woman is?

 

[alang1216]

1. I do remember Trump admitting being wrong afew times. Example: he said he shouldn't have revised his original Muslim ban.

This reminds me of an old joke: "I made a mistake once, I thought I did something wrong but it turned out I was correct".

2. Apology is not the least you can do for the victim. It's not for the victim. It's for the apologizer.

Admitting the victim was a victim is often all the victim wants.

 

[protectionist]

1. I do remember Trump admitting being wrong afew times. Example: he said he shouldn't have revised his original Muslim ban.

This reminds me of an old joke: "I made a mistake once, I thought I did something wrong but it turned out I was correct".

2. Apology is not the least you can do for the victim. It's not for the victim. It's for the apologizer.

Admitting the victim was a victim is often all the victim wants.

Maybe, but the apology motive is still escape real accountability (punishment), for the apologizer.

 

[jillian]

Al Franken apologized. Charlie Rose apologized. 1000 convicted murderers apologized to their victims' families. What do all these misfits have in common ? They are all looking to eliminate or (more likely) reduce the penalties to be imposed on them. Simple as that.

That's all an apology is. It's a self-serving act, that a malicious perpetrator engages in, to try to get himself off the hook. Oh, you thought they cared about the victim ? Don't make me laugh.

Apologies are designed for the benefit OF THE APOLOGIZER, nobody else.

Al Franken's victim (Leann Tweeden) said she accepted his apology. That's wrong. He doesn't care about her. He's acting on HIS OWN behalf, not for her.

you mean everyone should be like Donald and proudly admit grabbing women by the genitals?

 

[jillian]

1. I do remember Trump admitting being wrong afew times. Example: he said he shouldn't have revised his original Muslim ban.

This reminds me of an old joke: "I made a mistake once, I thought I did something wrong but it turned out I was correct".

2. Apology is not the least you can do for the victim. It's not for the victim. It's for the apologizer.

Admitting the victim was a victim is often all the victim wants.

Maybe, but the apology motive is still escape real accountability (punishment), for the apologizer.

it is up to the wronged if they want "punishment".

so what do you do with Donald and roy?

 

[protectionist]

1. I do remember Trump admitting being wrong afew times. Example: he said he shouldn't have revised his original Muslim ban.

This reminds me of an old joke: "I made a mistake once, I thought I did something wrong but it turned out I was correct".

2. Apology is not the least you can do for the victim. It's not for the victim. It's for the apologizer.

Admitting the victim was a victim is often all the victim wants.

Maybe, but the apology motive is still escape real accountability (punishment), for the apologizer.

it is up to the wronged if they want "punishment".

so what do you do with Donald and roy?

Re-elect and elect.

 

[jillian]

1. I do remember Trump admitting being wrong afew times. Example: he said he shouldn't have revised his original Muslim ban.

This reminds me of an old joke: "I made a mistake once, I thought I did something wrong but it turned out I was correct".

2. Apology is not the least you can do for the victim. It's not for the victim. It's for the apologizer.

Admitting the victim was a victim is often all the victim wants.

Maybe, but the apology motive is still escape real accountability (punishment), for the apologizer.

it is up to the wronged if they want "punishment".

so what do you do with Donald and roy?

Re-elect and elect.

clever.

but you keep telling yourself that.

as for re-elect, the orange sociopathic sexual predator will be lucky if he finishes the next six months.

 

[protectionist]

Al Franken apologized. Charlie Rose apologized. 1000 convicted murderers apologized to their victims' families. What do all these misfits have in common ? They are all looking to eliminate or (more likely) reduce the penalties to be imposed on them. Simple as that.

That's all an apology is. It's a self-serving act, that a malicious perpetrator engages in, to try to get himself off the hook. Oh, you thought they cared about the victim ? Don't make me laugh.

Apologies are designed for the benefit OF THE APOLOGIZER, nobody else.

Al Franken's victim (Leann Tweeden) said she accepted his apology. That's wrong. He doesn't care about her. He's acting on HIS OWN behalf, not for her.

you mean everyone should be like Donald and proudly admit grabbing women by the genitals?

I mean what I wrote in the OP.

 

[BulletProof]

Apologies are a joke (except fort accidental offenses). Apologies are sought to make offenders grovel. Apologies are offered try to reduce punishment for offenses.

 

[protectionist]

1. I do remember Trump admitting being wrong afew times. Example: he said he shouldn't have revised his original Muslim ban.

This reminds me of an old joke: "I made a mistake once, I thought I did something wrong but it turned out I was correct".

2. Apology is not the least you can do for the victim. It's not for the victim. It's for the apologizer.

Admitting the victim was a victim is often all the victim wants.

Maybe, but the apology motive is still escape real accountability (punishment), for the apologizer.

it is up to the wronged if they want "punishment".

so what do you do with Donald and roy?

Re-elect and elect.

clever.

but you keep telling yourself that.

as for re-elect, the orange sociopathic sexual predator will be lucky if he finishes the next six months.

If you have any evidence, let's hear it.