AP 'Fact Checking' Obama's Promises On Health Care and More

[Annie]

FACT CHECK: Obama's tone shifts on health care - Yahoo! News

FACT CHECK: Obama's tone shifts on health care

By ERICA WERNER and CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writers
Sat Sep 11, 3:20 am ET



WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama told voters repeatedly during the health care debate that the overhaul legislation would bring down fast-rising health care costs and save them money. Now, he's hemming and hawing on that.
So far, the law he signed earlier this year hasn't had the desired effect. An analysis from Medicare's Office of the Actuary this week said that the nation's health care tab will go up — not down — through 2019 as a result of Obama's sweeping law, though the increase is modest.
Obama offered some caveats when asked in his news conference Friday about the apparent discrepancy between what he promised and what's actually happening so far. On several other topics, too, his rhetoric fell short of a full accounting.
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[SFC Ollie]

Nothing new here, anyone who could see through the Bull Shit knew he was lying out his ass, and still is.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

This should be the first order of business that the Rs take up in Jan. Repeal this junk bill. This bill never was vested. The press threw softballs for o and never did any fact checking.

 

[asterism]

This should be the first order of business that the Rs take up in Jan. Repeal this junk bill. This bill never was vested. The press threw softballs for o and never did any fact checking.

That's not possible since the votes aren't there to override a veto. The House can refuse to fund it though.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

FACT CHECK: Obama's tone shifts on health care - Yahoo! News

FACT CHECK: Obama's tone shifts on health care

By ERICA WERNER and CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writers
Sat Sep 11, 3:20 am ET



WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama told voters repeatedly during the health care debate that the overhaul legislation would bring down fast-rising health care costs and save them money. Now, he's hemming and hawing on that.
So far, the law he signed earlier this year hasn't had the desired effect. An analysis from Medicare's Office of the Actuary this week said that the nation's health care tab will go up — not down — through 2019 as a result of Obama's sweeping law, though the increase is modest.
Obama offered some caveats when asked in his news conference Friday about the apparent discrepancy between what he promised and what's actually happening so far. On several other topics, too, his rhetoric fell short of a full accounting.
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Thanks annie for this thread, but I must say it's nothing new those who opposed this knew from the beginning it was all a lie.

 

[code1211]

This should be the first order of business that the Rs take up in Jan. Repeal this junk bill. This bill never was vested. The press threw softballs for o and never did any fact checking.

That's not possible since the votes aren't there to override a veto. The House can refuse to fund it though.

If the House does in fact go Republican, then many things can be de-funded. Obamacare will be the first.

It will be interesting to see if the Big 0's approach is still here's my program, now go F yourselves. One wonders if he even knows how to negotiate a comprimise. There's been no evidence of that talent to date.

 

[The Rabbi]

No, he will not be able to work with a Speaker Boehner or Senate Majority Leader DeMint. He has spent 2 years demonizing them. In his speech in Ohio he mentioned Boehner more than anyone else, not favorably of course.
Everyone knew the numbers for Obamacare were a lie. Even the people voting for it. They were told it would all work out and Americans would love "free health care."
If you think it's expensive now, wait until it's free.

 

[eagleboy]

the healthcare bill should be repealed, i think, until we know what's in it.
the bigger the government the better, i think...
it would be great if there were a big swap. everyone one who is not in the government now should become the government. conversely, everyone who is in the government now, become the rest of the country. i know this sounds like an ambitious plan, but, it could provide hope and change for promoting welfare and lower taxes. it could really work, i think, this is only my second post

 

[LibocalypseNow]

If the Republicans do regain some power i think repealing parts of the Health Care debacle should be their #1 priority. They should at the very least repeal the mandatory coverage aspect. Fining and possibly imprisoning fellow Americans for not having health insurance is just plain Un-American. They gotta win some power back first though. So get out and vote.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

No, he will not be able to work with a Speaker Boehner or Senate Majority Leader DeMint. He has spent 2 years demonizing them. In his speech in Ohio he mentioned Boehner more than anyone else, not favorably of course.
Everyone knew the numbers for Obamacare were a lie. Even the people voting for it. They were told it would all work out and Americans would love "free health care."
If you think it's expensive now, wait until it's free.

HA HA HA HA HA.

Not a chance of that.

 

[boedicca]

No, he will not be able to work with a Speaker Boehner or Senate Majority Leader DeMint. He has spent 2 years demonizing them. In his speech in Ohio he mentioned Boehner more than anyone else, not favorably of course.
Everyone knew the numbers for Obamacare were a lie. Even the people voting for it. They were told it would all work out and Americans would love "free health care."
If you think it's expensive now, wait until it's free.

Here's the danger: The entrenched GOP leadership still doesn't get it. Today, Boehner blinked and said he would vote to extend the tax cuts for those who make less than $250K per year. Such compromises make the GOP the party of "Big Government Lite".

 

[The Rabbi]

No, he will not be able to work with a Speaker Boehner or Senate Majority Leader DeMint. He has spent 2 years demonizing them. In his speech in Ohio he mentioned Boehner more than anyone else, not favorably of course.
Everyone knew the numbers for Obamacare were a lie. Even the people voting for it. They were told it would all work out and Americans would love "free health care."
If you think it's expensive now, wait until it's free.

Here's the danger: The entrenched GOP leadership still doesn't get it. Today, Boehner blinked and said he would vote to extend the tax cuts for those who make less than $250K per year. Such compromises make the GOP the party of "Big Government Lite".

Yeah, that was disappointing. He did say it was bad public policy though. Maybe he has something else up his sleeve.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

No, he will not be able to work with a Speaker Boehner or Senate Majority Leader DeMint. He has spent 2 years demonizing them. In his speech in Ohio he mentioned Boehner more than anyone else, not favorably of course.
Everyone knew the numbers for Obamacare were a lie. Even the people voting for it. They were told it would all work out and Americans would love "free health care."
If you think it's expensive now, wait until it's free.

HA HA HA HA HA.

Not a chance of that.

Lets make a bet
I'll pos rep you for the next 5 weeks and you can neg rep me for the next 6 months if Polise is still speaker of the house after the Nov. election. I will not neg you for neging me if that happens deal?

But if Polise isn't you must POS rep me and I get to neg you for 6 months

deal?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

No, he will not be able to work with a Speaker Boehner or Senate Majority Leader DeMint. He has spent 2 years demonizing them. In his speech in Ohio he mentioned Boehner more than anyone else, not favorably of course.
Everyone knew the numbers for Obamacare were a lie. Even the people voting for it. They were told it would all work out and Americans would love "free health care."
If you think it's expensive now, wait until it's free.

HA HA HA HA HA.

Not a chance of that.

Lets make a bet
I'll pos rep you for the next 5 weeks and you can neg rep me for the next 6 months if Polise is still speaker of the house after the Nov. election. I will not neg you for neging me if that happens deal?

But if Polise isn't you must POS rep me and I get to neg you for 6 months

deal?

First of all, I don't know who "Polise" is.

Secondly, I don't really have an opinion as to whether she's going to keep her speakership - I think it's pretty unlikely that she'll lose it, but it's possible she will.

My post was talking about Rabbit's prediction that DeMint will become the majority leader - which is about as likely as Ron Paul becoming the next speaker of the house.

 

[Charles_Main]

Nothing new here, anyone who could see through the Bull Shit knew he was lying out his ass, and still is.

Yep Obama lied US health care died.

ROFLMAO sorry could not help myself.

This is nothing but proof of exactly what many of us said about the bill in the first place.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Nothing new here, anyone who could see through the Bull Shit knew he was lying out his ass, and still is.

Yep Obama lied US health care died.

ROFLMAO sorry could not help myself.

This is nothing but proof of exactly what many of us said about the bill in the first place.

Really? Cause all I remember you guys saying about the bill was that it was the government taking over the healthcare industry, and Socialism, and Nazis, and all of that.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

HA HA HA HA HA.

Not a chance of that.

Lets make a bet
I'll pos rep you for the next 5 weeks and you can neg rep me for the next 6 months if Polise is still speaker of the house after the Nov. election. I will not neg you for neging me if that happens deal?

But if Polise isn't you must POS rep me and I get to neg you for 6 months

deal?

First of all, I don't know who "Polise" is.

Secondly, I don't really have an opinion as to whether she's going to keep her speakership - I think it's pretty unlikely that she'll lose it, but it's possible she will.

My post was talking about Rabbit's prediction that DeMint will become the majority leader - which is about as likely as Ron Paul becoming the next speaker of the house.

First of all, I don't know who "Polise" is.

Sure you do because you would have never said this

Secondly, I don't really have an opinion as to whether she's going to keep her speakership - I think it's pretty unlikely that she'll lose it, but it's possible she will.

So now that we know who we are talking about is it a bet?

 

[The T]

Nothing new here, anyone who could see through the Bull Shit knew he was lying out his ass, and still is.

Yep Obama lied US health care died.

ROFLMAO sorry could not help myself.

This is nothing but proof of exactly what many of us said about the bill in the first place.

And more to the point where the LIE needs to be REPEALED. Lest it ruin us.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Lets make a bet
I'll pos rep you for the next 5 weeks and you can neg rep me for the next 6 months if Polise is still speaker of the house after the Nov. election. I will not neg you for neging me if that happens deal?

But if Polise isn't you must POS rep me and I get to neg you for 6 months

deal?

First of all, I don't know who "Polise" is.

Secondly, I don't really have an opinion as to whether she's going to keep her speakership - I think it's pretty unlikely that she'll lose it, but it's possible she will.

My post was talking about Rabbit's prediction that DeMint will become the majority leader - which is about as likely as Ron Paul becoming the next speaker of the house.

First of all, I don't know who "Polise" is.

Sure you do because you would have never said this

Secondly, I don't really have an opinion as to whether she's going to keep her speakership - I think it's pretty unlikely that she'll lose it, but it's possible she will.

So now that we know who we are talking about is it a bet?

Or, instead, you could read my post.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

First of all, I don't know who "Polise" is.

Secondly, I don't really have an opinion as to whether she's going to keep her speakership - I think it's pretty unlikely that she'll lose it, but it's possible she will.

My post was talking about Rabbit's prediction that DeMint will become the majority leader - which is about as likely as Ron Paul becoming the next speaker of the house.

Sure you do because you would have never said this

Secondly, I don't really have an opinion as to whether she's going to keep her speakership - I think it's pretty unlikely that she'll lose it, but it's possible she will.

So now that we know who we are talking about is it a bet?

Or, instead, you could read my post.

Fine can't man up might as well back down.