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This is what we get for not finishing up the job the first time... Sounds a bit like Iraq, huh?
There was no way to "finish" the job that didn't wind up a nuclear holocaust.
All we KNOW, is what we HEAR.
We'll find-out....eventually.....
Fortunately.....The Chickenhawks are no-longer in The Oval Office.
Ya know Mr. Shameful you might be on to something in regards to your link about the democrat lie that got us into Vietnam.
You got a NAME (for that Dem, at the Pentagon).....
"On the night of Aug. 4, the Pentagon proclaimed that a second attack by North Vietnamese PT boats had occurred earlier that day in the Tonkin Gulf a report cited by President Johnson as he went on national TV that evening to announce a momentous escalation in the war: air strikes against North Vietnam."
.....Or, is that just your ass, talkin'......again??
If South Korea or US decides that the time has passed for giving into bad behavior, duck and cover is the best advice to be given to Asia. Not likely yet.
It's not going to happen. President Obama has shown a willingness to use military force. Seriously..from misting the heads of Pirates holding a ship captain to escalting the war in Afghanistan, where has this guy backed down?
What he did in parking the navy close by, was a proportional response to a ridiculous situation.
How do North Korea's threats compare to the menace posed to NK by 29,000 US troops stationed south of the 38th parallel?Last June Peter Lee offered these thoughts on North Korea's future:
"Increasingly, North Korea does not represent a threat.
"Instead, it represents East Asia's last frontier, an untapped treasure-house of human and mineral wealth to be exploited by the regional and world powers that are able to guide its integration into the global economy."
Lee seems to believe that the reunification of the Korean peninsula and who benefits the most directly from it has to be considered whenever "provocations" occur:
"South Korea's latest Vision 3000 video-conference pitch was hosted by Goldman Sachs.
"A high tech trends website, h+, breathlessly spun the latest reunification scenario: it will pay for itself!
"With 'change left over!'
"Just like Iraq!
North Korean attack on South Korea: 8 provocations of the past decade
Scientist: North Korea has 'stunning' new nuclear facility
No...not much of a threat at all...
Not a student of history are you? The Korean War never ended. There was only a cessation of hostilities in 1953.How do North Korea's threats compare to the menace posed to NK by 29,000 US troops stationed south of the 38th parallel?Last June Peter Lee offered these thoughts on North Korea's future:
"Increasingly, North Korea does not represent a threat.
"Instead, it represents East Asia's last frontier, an untapped treasure-house of human and mineral wealth to be exploited by the regional and world powers that are able to guide its integration into the global economy."
Lee seems to believe that the reunification of the Korean peninsula and who benefits the most directly from it has to be considered whenever "provocations" occur:
"South Korea's latest Vision 3000 video-conference pitch was hosted by Goldman Sachs.
"A high tech trends website, h+, breathlessly spun the latest reunification scenario: it will pay for itself!
"With 'change left over!'
"Just like Iraq!
North Korean attack on South Korea: 8 provocations of the past decade
Scientist: North Korea has 'stunning' new nuclear facility
No...not much of a threat at all...
Would you feel threatened by 29,000 North Korean troops massed in Cuba or Mexico?
How about a pair of NK aircraft carriers off Florida's First Coast?
I just saw on the news that a battleship was headed in the direction of Korea for a training exercise with the South Koreans. Whats going on!
How do North Korea's threats compare to the menace posed to NK by 29,000 US troops stationed south of the 38th parallel?Last June Peter Lee offered these thoughts on North Korea's future:
"Increasingly, North Korea does not represent a threat.
"Instead, it represents East Asia's last frontier, an untapped treasure-house of human and mineral wealth to be exploited by the regional and world powers that are able to guide its integration into the global economy."
Lee seems to believe that the reunification of the Korean peninsula and who benefits the most directly from it has to be considered whenever "provocations" occur:
"South Korea's latest Vision 3000 video-conference pitch was hosted by Goldman Sachs.
"A high tech trends website, h+, breathlessly spun the latest reunification scenario: it will pay for itself!
"With 'change left over!'
"Just like Iraq!
North Korean attack on South Korea: 8 provocations of the past decade
Scientist: North Korea has 'stunning' new nuclear facility
No...not much of a threat at all...
Would you feel threatened by 29,000 North Korean troops massed in Cuba or Mexico?
How about a pair of NK aircraft carriers off Florida's First Coast?
If the North Koreans convert to Judaism they can do whatever they want.
Do you think this account of Korean history is accurate?Not a student of history are you? The Korean War never ended. There was only a cessation of hostilities in 1953.How do North Korea's threats compare to the menace posed to NK by 29,000 US troops stationed south of the 38th parallel?North Korean attack on South Korea: 8 provocations of the past decade
Scientist: North Korea has 'stunning' new nuclear facility
No...not much of a threat at all...
Would you feel threatened by 29,000 North Korean troops massed in Cuba or Mexico?
How about a pair of NK aircraft carriers off Florida's First Coast?
They are technically still at WAR.
Do you think this account of Korean history is accurate?Not a student of history are you? The Korean War never ended. There was only a cessation of hostilities in 1953.How do North Korea's threats compare to the menace posed to NK by 29,000 US troops stationed south of the 38th parallel?
Would you feel threatened by 29,000 North Korean troops massed in Cuba or Mexico?
How about a pair of NK aircraft carriers off Florida's First Coast?
They are technically still at WAR.
"The Korean peninsula, peopled by one of the world's most homogeneous ethnic groups, and united from the seventh century through 1945, is now divided into two nations due primarily to the actions of the Truman administration and the U.S. military.
"This is something upon which South and North Koreans agree."
North Korea...
Do you think this account of Korean history is accurate?Not a student of history are you? The Korean War never ended. There was only a cessation of hostilities in 1953.How do North Korea's threats compare to the menace posed to NK by 29,000 US troops stationed south of the 38th parallel?
Would you feel threatened by 29,000 North Korean troops massed in Cuba or Mexico?
How about a pair of NK aircraft carriers off Florida's First Coast?
They are technically still at WAR.
"The Korean peninsula, peopled by one of the world's most homogeneous ethnic groups, and united from the seventh century through 1945, is now divided into two nations due primarily to the actions of the Truman administration and the U.S. military.
"This is something upon which South and North Koreans agree."
North Korea...
Do you think this account of Korean history is accurate?Not a student of history are you? The Korean War never ended. There was only a cessation of hostilities in 1953.
They are technically still at WAR.
"The Korean peninsula, peopled by one of the world's most homogeneous ethnic groups, and united from the seventh century through 1945, is now divided into two nations due primarily to the actions of the Truman administration and the U.S. military.
"This is something upon which South and North Koreans agree."
North Korea...
Oh those poor Chinese backed Communists. They were "picked on" by Truman. Boo freaking hoo!
Assuming your scenario is correct at least up to Point 2.I just saw on the news that a battleship was headed in the direction of Korea for a training exercise with the South Koreans. Whats going on!
For your information there are no active battleships in the world.
This exercise was announced in July and is not in response to the incident earlier this week.
Naval Readiness Exercise Announced
Kim Jong-un who is the heir apparent may be showing the military that he is no dove. I do not think that this will escalate into a full fledged conflict but things like that will continue to happen as long as the Koreas are split. Things like this have happened since the armistice.
Now this is in Chinas sphere of interest and if the Chinese think that a war in Korea would help their chances on taking Taiwan they may silently push for it. I dont believe the Chinese are ready yet to invade Taiwan so I dont think they will back a Korean war at this time. I see China using Korea in the future as a way of diverting the US response to a Taiwan invasion.
Here is the scenario:
1. China completes it modernization of its forces and decides it can invade Taiwan and inflict considerable damage to any American forces injected into the theater. They are not far off right now on this capability.
2. China instigates N. Korea to attack S. Korea. This brings the US forces in the Pacific into the war and the US must commit more marines, aircraft and naval forces to the Korean theater of operations. Remember we have many forces committed to the Persian Gulf area and Afghanistan that we cannot move.
3. After a week or so after US forces are committed or in the pipeline the Chinese assault Taiwan in a surprise attack. I believe this will be superseded by a massive infiltration of Taiwan by espionage agents who mission will be to take out key power station, communications and military targets. A fifth column so to speak.
4. The US which has a formal commitment to Korea must stand there. We do not have a formal treaty with Taiwan so we are not obligated to respond to that attack. Plus we may not be capable of diverting forces to that theater.
This is the scenario that I see coming up sometime in the next 10 years. And there might be an Iranian aspect here too. If war breaks out here, and in Korea too the time will be ripe for China to take Taiwan and we can not do anything about it.
Your nightime photo doesn't mention No Gun Ri...Do you think this account of Korean history is accurate?Not a student of history are you? The Korean War never ended. There was only a cessation of hostilities in 1953.
They are technically still at WAR.
"The Korean peninsula, peopled by one of the world's most homogeneous ethnic groups, and united from the seventh century through 1945, is now divided into two nations due primarily to the actions of the Truman administration and the U.S. military.
"This is something upon which South and North Koreans agree."
North Korea...
The nighttime photo I posted says it all...not your revisionist history bullshit.
Do you think this account of Korean history is accurate?
"The Korean peninsula, peopled by one of the world's most homogeneous ethnic groups, and united from the seventh century through 1945, is now divided into two nations due primarily to the actions of the Truman administration and the U.S. military.
"This is something upon which South and North Koreans agree."
North Korea...
Oh those poor Chinese backed Communists. They were "picked on" by Truman. Boo freaking hoo!
But yet now China is our banker...whoulda' thunk it eh?
Assuming your scenario is correct at least up to Point 2.I just saw on the news that a battleship was headed in the direction of Korea for a training exercise with the South Koreans. Whats going on!
For your information there are no active battleships in the world.
This exercise was announced in July and is not in response to the incident earlier this week.
Naval Readiness Exercise Announced
Kim Jong-un who is the heir apparent may be showing the military that he is no dove. I do not think that this will escalate into a full fledged conflict but things like that will continue to happen as long as the Koreas are split. Things like this have happened since the armistice.
Now this is in Chinas sphere of interest and if the Chinese think that a war in Korea would help their chances on taking Taiwan they may silently push for it. I dont believe the Chinese are ready yet to invade Taiwan so I dont think they will back a Korean war at this time. I see China using Korea in the future as a way of diverting the US response to a Taiwan invasion.
Here is the scenario:
1. China completes it modernization of its forces and decides it can invade Taiwan and inflict considerable damage to any American forces injected into the theater. They are not far off right now on this capability.
2. China instigates N. Korea to attack S. Korea. This brings the US forces in the Pacific into the war and the US must commit more marines, aircraft and naval forces to the Korean theater of operations. Remember we have many forces committed to the Persian Gulf area and Afghanistan that we cannot move.
3. After a week or so after US forces are committed or in the pipeline the Chinese assault Taiwan in a surprise attack. I believe this will be superseded by a massive infiltration of Taiwan by espionage agents who mission will be to take out key power station, communications and military targets. A fifth column so to speak.
4. The US which has a formal commitment to Korea must stand there. We do not have a formal treaty with Taiwan so we are not obligated to respond to that attack. Plus we may not be capable of diverting forces to that theater.
This is the scenario that I see coming up sometime in the next 10 years. And there might be an Iranian aspect here too. If war breaks out here, and in Korea too the time will be ripe for China to take Taiwan and we can not do anything about it.
Do you foresee any attempt in this country to reinstate the Draft?
Any thoughts on how much profit Halliburton would bank from action like this?
