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Crixus

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So all you retards who insist on Roy Moore being kicked out of his senate race i pose this question. On what evidence is he guilty? I don’t want what you sheep repeat off the news, I have included the woman’s names and their statements which have pretty much remained the same since they all came out four weeks before an election. So guilty or not, this is all you have based your opinions on which you say are facts. Please prove it. Oh, no link. I got the info from a Washington examiner opinion piece if you want to make sure I did not rearrange anything.



Leigh Corfman: Claims Moore provided her with alcohol and sexually assaulted her when she was 14 years old.

She claimed a 32-year-old Moore picked her up near her house in Gadsden, Ala., and drove her to a remote location in the woods, where he told her “how pretty she was and kissed her,” according to the Washington Post.

“On a second visit, she said, he took off her shirt and pants and removed his clothes. He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear,” the report added.

Wendy Miller: Claims Moore asked her out on a date when she was 16 years old and he was 32. Her mother said no.

Debbie Wesson Gibson: Claims she dated Moore for roughly three months in 1981 when she was 17 years old.

Gibson said he would read her poetry and serenade her with his guitar. She said he kissed her twice during the time they dated. He was 34 at the time.

Gloria Thacker Deason: Claims she dated Moore on-and-off again when she was 18 and he was 32 after an initial meeting at the Gadsden Mall in 1979.

Deason said their physical relationship never went further than kissing and hugging. Like Corfman, Deason also said Moore gave her alcohol on dates, even though she was below the legal drinking age.

Beverly Young Nelson: Claims Moore sexually assaulted her in 1977 when she was 16 years old.

Nelson worked as a waitress at a diner Moore frequented. She said Moore once offered to give her a ride home after her shift ended. Instead, she added, he parked his truck in the back of the diner and tried to force her to perform oral sex on him.

“I tried to open my car door to leave, but he reached over and he locked it so I could not get out,” Nelson said in a statement published this week. “I tried fighting him off while yelling at him to stop. But instead of stopping, he began squeezing my neck, attempting to force my head onto his crotch. I continued to struggle.”

“I was determined that I was not going to allow him to force me to have sex with him. I was terrified, he was also trying to pull my shirt off. I thought that he was going to rape me. I was twisting and struggling and I was begging him to stop. I had tears running down my face,” she added.

Moore was 30 years old at the time.

Tina Johnson: Claims Moore groped her in his office in 1991 when she was 28 years old.

"He kept commenting on my looks, telling me how pretty I was, how nice I looked," Johnson told the Birmingham News. "He was saying that my eyes were beautiful."

"I was thinking, can we hurry up and get out of here?" she added

Johnson said Moore repeatedly flirted with her and complimented her on her looks, saying things like he wondered if her children were as good looking as their mother.

She also alleged that as she turned to leave his office after their meeting, Moore grabbed her buttocks.

"He didn't pinch it; he grabbed it," said Johnson

Moore was 44 years old at the time.

Kelly Harrison Thorp: Claims Moore asked her out in 1982 when she was a 17-year-old waitress at Red Lobster.

She said Moore, who was 35 at the time, came into her restaurant one day, introduced himself and then immediately asked her out on a date.

"I just kind of said, 'Do you know how old I am?'" she recalled asking, according to the Birmingham News.

"And he said, 'Yeah. I go out with girls your age all the time.”

Gena Richardson: Claims Moore pursued her relentlessly in 1977 when she was an 18-year-old high school senior.

Richardson said she met Moore at the Gadsden Mall, where he asked her which school she attended. She said he also asked for her phone number, which she said she declined to give.

Richardson said he then called her when she was in trigonometry class and asked her out on a date. She said he called a few more times until she relented, and agreed to go to the movies with him.

After their first date, she said, Moore gave her an unsolicited, “forceful” kiss, which prompted her to break off further contact with him.

“It was a man kiss — like really deep tongue. Like very forceful tongue. It was a surprise. I’d never been kissed like that,” she says. “And the minute that happened, I got scared then,” she told the Post. “I really did. Something came over me that scared me. And so I said, ‘I’ve got to go because my curfew is now.’”

Becky Gray: Claims Moore repeatedly asked her out on dates when she was 22 years old he was 30.
 
I'm not a hater and I'm not a liberal. I never even heard of this guy before his face and name were plastered all over the news with allegations of sexual assault. I don't think a whole lot of women would lie about such a thing though. It's not like they have anything to gain from lying about it (not that it doesn't happen - I know it happens but is the exception rather than the rule). I tend to take allegations of grown adults going after children or teens very seriously though. It's different when it's a grown man and a grown woman, but this was a man in a position of authority and these were kids.

Sorry to say, but just having that suspicion is going to harm him. People don't like that shit, especially parents.
 
The presumption of innocence is all good and well for a court of law, but the court of public opinion and the profession of politics require no such standard, sad as that may be.

At this point, the optics associated with Moore do not make him an asset to congress or the Republican party.
 
I need to see the financials of all relatives and current lovers of these victims. Could be? But 38 years ago and this guy has been elected and working? Never heard of him till now, also. And......here's the kicker. I Don't care, but yet I'm posting on it? Put on a pantsuit and shup. Nobody got hurt. Could be FrameJob?
 
I'm not a hater and I'm not a liberal. I never even heard of this guy before his face and name were plastered all over the news with allegations of sexual assault. I don't think a whole lot of women would lie about such a thing though. It's not like they have anything to gain from lying about it (not that it doesn't happen - I know it happens but is the exception rather than the rule). I tend to take allegations of grown adults going after children or teens very seriously though. It's different when it's a grown man and a grown woman, but this was a man in a position of authority and these were kids.

Sorry to say, but just having that suspicion is going to harm him. People don't like that shit, especially parents.


Lol, any sexual allegation agains the guy would be believable, he looks like a creeper. That aside, there are each woman’s a cusations. Using those, statements, how does one come to this conclusion?


Sen. Collins: Sexual misconduct claims against Trump 'remain very disturbing'


Republican Sen. Susan Collins said Sunday that the sexual misconduct, harassment and assault allegations from more than a dozen women against President Donald Trump “remain very disturbing” as a wave of women continue to come forward with claims against powerful men.



Whoops, that was Trump. Say, where did his accusers go anyway? Let’s try again.


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I have now read Mr. Moore’s statement and listened to his radio interview in which he denies the charges. I did not find his denials to be convincing and believe that he should withdraw from the Senate race in Alabama.


Not picking on Susan Collins at all. The statement she made is the same they all make. He diddnt Denise it enough? What the hell? So using the woman’s statements really are as weak as his denial. I just want to know? Other then the guy looking the part, which of the woman’s statements are the ones that are found to be so “compelling “?
 
You seem to confuse criminal cases wh political viability .

Wiener was run out of town without any conviction. That all came later. . Lol!
 
I think it seems pretty obvious he was coming onto teenagers as a man in his thirties, which, while legal, is really extremely creepy.

22 - 30 is a bit of a gap but not really that big of a deal.

Whether or not he went as young as 14, or tried to force anyone to give him head, is another story and more of an open question.
 
I will admit that the timing is super suspicious though, and I don't rule out that it is being done to ruin the man. That is always a possibility when it comes to politics. Politics is just disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.


Well, I’m ready to listen. That lady that came out with Gloria Allred described an attempted rape. I want to here more before I decied.
 
I think it seems pretty obvious he was coming onto teenagers as a man in his thirties, which, while legal, is really extremely creepy.

22 - 30 is a bit of a gap but not really that big of a deal.

Whether or not he went as young as 14, or tried to force anyone to give him head, is another story and more of an open question.


That was tossed out 4 weeks before an election in the same stylist it was done to Donald Trump. This is a political hit, nothing more.
 
I'm not a hater and I'm not a liberal. I never even heard of this guy before his face and name were plastered all over the news with allegations of sexual assault. I don't think a whole lot of women would lie about such a thing though. It's not like they have anything to gain from lying about it (not that it doesn't happen - I know it happens but is the exception rather than the rule). I tend to take allegations of grown adults going after children or teens very seriously though. It's different when it's a grown man and a grown woman, but this was a man in a position of authority and these were kids.

Sorry to say, but just having that suspicion is going to harm him. People don't like that shit, especially parents.


Lol, any sexual allegation agains the guy would be believable, he looks like a creeper. That aside, there are each woman’s a cusations. Using those, statements, how does one come to this conclusion?


Sen. Collins: Sexual misconduct claims against Trump 'remain very disturbing'


Republican Sen. Susan Collins said Sunday that the sexual misconduct, harassment and assault allegations from more than a dozen women against President Donald Trump “remain very disturbing” as a wave of women continue to come forward with claims against powerful men.



Whoops, that was Trump. Say, where did his accusers go anyway? Let’s try again.


Twitter



I have now read Mr. Moore’s statement and listened to his radio interview in which he denies the charges. I did not find his denials to be convincing and believe that he should withdraw from the Senate race in Alabama.


Not picking on Susan Collins at all. The statement she made is the same they all make. He diddnt Denise it enough? What the hell? So using the woman’s statements really are as weak as his denial. I just want to know? Other then the guy looking the part, which of the woman’s statements are the ones that are found to be so “compelling “?

Well, I can turn this around and ask you why you find them so insignificant? Of course, there is nothing wrong with men liking younger women and asking them out on dates. I don't think asking someone out on a date is sexual harassment. You can always just say no. However, I find the accusations about him chasing teenagers most "compelling" if that's the word you want to use. Disturbing, creepy. If it's not true, then I feel sorry for him, and the people who made the false accusations should be punished VERY harshly, but now the doubt is there in people's minds about him.
 
The presumption of innocence is all good and well for a court of law, but the court of public opinion and the profession of politics require no such standard, sad as that may be.

At this point, the optics associated with Moore do not make him an asset to congress or the Republican party.


At least you are honest about it.
 
I think it seems pretty obvious he was coming onto teenagers as a man in his thirties, which, while legal, is really extremely creepy.

22 - 30 is a bit of a gap but not really that big of a deal.

Whether or not he went as young as 14, or tried to force anyone to give him head, is another story and more of an open question.


That was tossed out 4 weeks before an election in the same stylist it was done to Donald Trump. This is a political hit, nothing more.

I don't think it's right to dismiss the allegations outright, just as I don't approve of assuming it's all true.

The thing about him forcing a girl's head toward his crotch does seem a little ... farfetched. What are even the logistics of that? How would he expect that to work, anatomically? Unless he was willing to use extreme violence to coerce her into it, which he clearly was not ready to do even by her description. And in the middle of a parking lot, was it? I dunno. Seems very unlikely, though again, I wouldn't outright call her a liar.
 
I think it seems pretty obvious he was coming onto teenagers as a man in his thirties, which, while legal, is really extremely creepy.

22 - 30 is a bit of a gap but not really that big of a deal.

Whether or not he went as young as 14, or tried to force anyone to give him head, is another story and more of an open question.


That was tossed out 4 weeks before an election in the same stylist it was done to Donald Trump. This is a political hit, nothing more.

I don't think it's right to dismiss the allegations outright, just as I don't approve of assuming it's all true.

The thing about him forcing a girl's head toward his crotch does seem a little ... farfetched. What are even the logistics of that? How would he expect that to work, anatomically? Unless he was willing to use extreme violence to coerce her into it, which he clearly was not ready to do even by her description. And in the middle of a parking lot, was it? I dunno. Seems very unlikely, though again, I wouldn't outright call her a liar.

Some guys seem to think that they coax women into doing sexual activities by doing such things. They seem to think their penises are irresistible or something.
 
I'm not a hater and I'm not a liberal. I never even heard of this guy before his face and name were plastered all over the news with allegations of sexual assault. I don't think a whole lot of women would lie about such a thing though. It's not like they have anything to gain from lying about it (not that it doesn't happen - I know it happens but is the exception rather than the rule). I tend to take allegations of grown adults going after children or teens very seriously though. It's different when it's a grown man and a grown woman, but this was a man in a position of authority and these were kids.

Sorry to say, but just having that suspicion is going to harm him. People don't like that shit, especially parents.


Lol, any sexual allegation agains the guy would be believable, he looks like a creeper. That aside, there are each woman’s a cusations. Using those, statements, how does one come to this conclusion?


Sen. Collins: Sexual misconduct claims against Trump 'remain very disturbing'


Republican Sen. Susan Collins said Sunday that the sexual misconduct, harassment and assault allegations from more than a dozen women against President Donald Trump “remain very disturbing” as a wave of women continue to come forward with claims against powerful men.



Whoops, that was Trump. Say, where did his accusers go anyway? Let’s try again.


Twitter



I have now read Mr. Moore’s statement and listened to his radio interview in which he denies the charges. I did not find his denials to be convincing and believe that he should withdraw from the Senate race in Alabama.


Not picking on Susan Collins at all. The statement she made is the same they all make. He diddnt Denise it enough? What the hell? So using the woman’s statements really are as weak as his denial. I just want to know? Other then the guy looking the part, which of the woman’s statements are the ones that are found to be so “compelling “?

Well, I can turn this around and ask you why you find them so insignificant? Of course, there is nothing wrong with men liking younger women and asking them out on dates. I don't think asking someone out on a date is sexual harassment. You can always just say no. However, I find the accusations about him chasing teenagers most "compelling" if that's the word you want to use. Disturbing, creepy. If it's not true, then I feel sorry for him, and the people who made the false accusations should be punished VERY harshly, but now the doubt is there in people's minds about him.


Honestly, I don’t know that he diddnt do this. What I do know is that this type of hit follows a pattern. No, not a democrat pattern but a pattern of how Washington gets rid of duely elected representatives that won’t tow their line. I do not dismiss them, hell I want to see them on CNN telling us all about it. Not hiding.
 
I'm not a hater and I'm not a liberal. I never even heard of this guy before his face and name were plastered all over the news with allegations of sexual assault. I don't think a whole lot of women would lie about such a thing though. It's not like they have anything to gain from lying about it (not that it doesn't happen - I know it happens but is the exception rather than the rule). I tend to take allegations of grown adults going after children or teens very seriously though. It's different when it's a grown man and a grown woman, but this was a man in a position of authority and these were kids.

Sorry to say, but just having that suspicion is going to harm him. People don't like that shit, especially parents.


Lol, any sexual allegation agains the guy would be believable, he looks like a creeper. That aside, there are each woman’s a cusations. Using those, statements, how does one come to this conclusion?


Sen. Collins: Sexual misconduct claims against Trump 'remain very disturbing'


Republican Sen. Susan Collins said Sunday that the sexual misconduct, harassment and assault allegations from more than a dozen women against President Donald Trump “remain very disturbing” as a wave of women continue to come forward with claims against powerful men.



Whoops, that was Trump. Say, where did his accusers go anyway? Let’s try again.


Twitter



I have now read Mr. Moore’s statement and listened to his radio interview in which he denies the charges. I did not find his denials to be convincing and believe that he should withdraw from the Senate race in Alabama.


Not picking on Susan Collins at all. The statement she made is the same they all make. He diddnt Denise it enough? What the hell? So using the woman’s statements really are as weak as his denial. I just want to know? Other then the guy looking the part, which of the woman’s statements are the ones that are found to be so “compelling “?

Well, I can turn this around and ask you why you find them so insignificant? Of course, there is nothing wrong with men liking younger women and asking them out on dates. I don't think asking someone out on a date is sexual harassment. You can always just say no. However, I find the accusations about him chasing teenagers most "compelling" if that's the word you want to use. Disturbing, creepy. If it's not true, then I feel sorry for him, and the people who made the false accusations should be punished VERY harshly, but now the doubt is there in people's minds about him.


Honestly, I don’t know that he diddnt do this. What I do know is that this type of hit follows a pattern. No, not a democrat pattern but a pattern of how Washington gets rid of duely elected representatives that won’t tow their line. I do not dismiss them, hell I want to see them on CNN telling us all about it. Not hiding.

Hmm. I think we've all seen that kind of thing play out before too though. Sometimes they end up making themselves look more guilty, especially on a network like CNN! :lol: I'm sure any good lawyer would advise against making many public statements about it.
 
I think it seems pretty obvious he was coming onto teenagers as a man in his thirties, which, while legal, is really extremely creepy.

22 - 30 is a bit of a gap but not really that big of a deal.

Whether or not he went as young as 14, or tried to force anyone to give him head, is another story and more of an open question.


That was tossed out 4 weeks before an election in the same stylist it was done to Donald Trump. This is a political hit, nothing more.

I don't think it's right to dismiss the allegations outright, just as I don't approve of assuming it's all true.

The thing about him forcing a girl's head toward his crotch does seem a little ... farfetched. What are even the logistics of that? How would he expect that to work, anatomically? Unless he was willing to use extreme violence to coerce her into it, which he clearly was not ready to do even by her description. And in the middle of a parking lot, was it? I dunno. Seems very unlikely, though again, I wouldn't outright call her a liar.


Don’t dismiss, ask questions. Where are they? And WHAT IS SO COMPELLING about their statements?
 
So far the accusations have been more convincing than the defense, and it is not even close in my opinion.

Even without the yearbook, but I think the yearbook makes a compelling addition to the case because it not only has the accuser in it, but it also has a picture of Moore's wife, who was the same class.

Moore's wife is the one that started the lie about the name of the restaurant being spelled wrong, she was so desperate to prove it was so that she put a picture on Facebook to back up her story. The only problem was the restaurant she posted a picture of was in Georgia not Alabama. Considering that Moore's wife grew up there it is likely she knew the name of the restaurant was not wrong, but pushed her story anyhow.

Not unlike how the lawyer pushed the story that Moore had been assigned to the divorce case of the accusers, even though he had to know that was a lie.

Then there was the desperate attempt by the fake Navy guy on twitter to try and claim the WaPo offered someone $1000 to lie about Moore.

If the people defending Moore have to lie, that should tell you a lot about the case

There is also the fact that someone who has known Moore for 40 years choose to justify his actions with bible stories instead of denying they happened. I find that very compelling. I was actually on the side that this was all just BS till this guy came out and made his statement. It was clear that this guy that has known Moore for a very long time thought it was true.
 

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