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Our govt. has a legitimate role to play in defending rights from the moment a life begins.

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  1. C_Clayton_Jones
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    Your threads and posts have exhibited a comprehensive ignorance of – and contempt for – settled, accepted Constitutional law that is beyond dispute.

    In addition to ignorance and contempt, your posts are replete with misinformation, sophistry, and lies – typical of most on the social right.
     
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    Fetal ‘homicide’ laws are a political contrivance, having little to do with criminal law.

    That’s why every one of those laws have a provision excluding from prosecution a doctor or any other medical professional performing a lawful abortion.
     
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    Lol.

    Triggered snowflake?

    Are you claiming the SCOTUS is infallible now?
     
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    Do any of the fetal Homicide laws forbid the use of those laws as a basis in advancing further / future legislation?

    Hint: the two letter answer starts with an "n" and ends with an "o"
     
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    Well, it's kind of hard to have a rational discussion on policy when you are dealing with religious magical thinking.

    But you probably think no one was having abortions before 1973.
     
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    Let me know when you are ready to discuss the issue without trying to bring religion into it. Mmmmmkay?
     
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    Oh, please. I didn't see Chuz bring up religious arguments. And, FYI, there are plenty of prolifers who are atheist, agnostic or not very religious. You're holding on to outdated stereotypes.

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    If you vote yes in this poll then you believe in protecting all human life even those you disagree with.
     
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    No, we are pointing out they are pragmatic.

    The problem you anti-choice nuts don't get is that before Roe v. Wade, women were having abortions. Lots of them. In fact, the practice was so common that the end of abortion laws did not cause a drop in the birth rate. It actually started going up in 1975. It wasn't even back alley abortions, most women would go to their OB/GYN, they would perform an abortion, and write something else down on her chart if the insurance company asked.

    All the court did in Roe was recognize these laws were being largely ignored and they were cruel.

    It's always about religion.

    No, he's very good about repeating the rote arguments on the anti-choice right and avoiding direct religious statements, but at the end of the day, it's still a lot of magical thinking.

    You aren't going to end legal abortion unless you are willing to throw a lot of women and their doctors in prison for having them. when you are claiming it's a "morality" issue, that's a religious point of view.
     
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    Incorrect, it is already illegal to kill an innocent human being. Pro-lifers are simply saying that the baby in the womb is indeed a human being, and as such, deserves protection. One doesn't have to believe in God to understand that certain things are wrong, such as murder, rape, theft, etc.
     

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