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    You post it in a 26 minute video, because you don't want to discuss them.
     
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    Soviet Poland knew how to deal with Ethnic Collective detriments like Germans.

    Flight and expulsion of Germans (1944–50) - Wikipedia

    Soviet Poland knew how to deal with Ethnic Collective detriments like Jews.

    1968 Polish political crisis - Wikipedia

    Soviet Poland considered Gayness a disease, this was deleted when Poland turned Capitalist in 1991.

    LGBT rights in Poland - Wikipedia

    Soviet Poland was generally more Socially Right Wing than the Liberal Capitalists in the West today.

     
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    I think it's a gross exaggeration that Dictators will lead to more deaths all the time.

    Britain in the Victorian Era had a Democracy, the U.S.A has had a Democracy since WW2.
    Both are up there in killings.

    Just we tend not to hear much about it, because Brits are jerks.

    Late Victorian Holocausts - Wikipedia

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    Socially conservative in what ways? Abortion? Abortion is a practiced regularly in communist countries. In dictatorships it is forced upon people. Gun rights? Nope, your dictator hero’s always disarm the common folk.

    Less immigration? Lol you truly are a moron. People don’t want to immigrate to oppressive countries that are economic basketcases that can’t even feed their people. People didn’t flock the USSR because it was a nightmare of a place to live. It is the great free societies that have problems with immigrations, because so many people want to go there.

    Gay marriage gets oppressed. Yes you got one. Yet it is because in oppressive dictatorships the vast majority of the people get oppressed and minorities get it the worst. You’re not a smart guy. In a dictatorship you would be one of the oppressed.

    Lastly you can blame Jews for all your problems, but the reason you’re a failure is because of you. Simpleton try to blame it on vulnerable minority group. You don’t like to face the truth.


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    Totalitarianism usually favors Majorities over Minorities, or at least Might is Right.

    How do you argue that's Left Wing social values?

    Yes, that's kind of the appeal... Yes I do want to strengthen the power of the Majority to dominate the Minority.... Unlike our Liberal society which supports Minority over Majority.

    But, NO, Truth be told I don't support extreme Totalitarianism.

    I support enough Totalitarianism to combat our issues.

    Plans include.

    1.) Crack down on Hollywood, Media, and Academia promoting Liberalism. (Create a micro-managed Hollywood, Media, and Academia in it's place, where there's balance against Liberalism)

    2.) Crack down on Capitalists who hire Immigrant foreigners. ( Jail those who hire them)

    3.) Crack down on those who Outsource jobs. (Jail those who hire them)

    4.) Support Racial separatism by revoking the citizenship of Blacks, Native Americans, and Hispanics. (Create more Black, and Native American homelands)

    5.) Crack down on Abortion, Gay Marriage etc.

    6.) Reward high IQ, non criminals for having kids with Tax Incentives, punish low IQ, Criminals for having more than 1 Kid with Fines. (To combat dysgenics)

    I fail to see how "Individualists for Liberty" could possibly turn the tide on these issues?

    The truth is my ideals only target degenerated Minorities who have for too long used Liberty to wield power of Liberalism over the Majority.

    No, I don't support massive Totalitarianism, just as little as can be done to fix our society.
     
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    Western Capitalist countries do have massive Abortion too.

    But, in most other ways Communists were more Socially Conservative.
     
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    Russia is about as poor / rich today as it was during Communism.

    But, Russia has millions of Muslims in Moscow today that weren't there during Communism, overwhelmingly.

    Why are those Muslims there?
    Because of Capitalism cheap labor.





     
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    I blame quite a few Jews for societal problems, not my personal problems.

    Individualists seem to have difficulty understanding societal problems.... They instead just seem to grasp "Me, mine, and Now"

    The Individualist doesn't grasp there's a difference of Societal problems vs Personal problems because they're Brutish Sub-Human savages, who can only think of themselves.

    Yes, Jews have been a Liberal promoting issue for our American society... Overall big time.

    Explain otherwise?

    1,000 American rabbis sign letter welcoming Syrian refugees

    1,500+ Rabbis Sign National Letter Calling for Welcoming Refugees

    US Jews contribute half of all donations to the Democratic party

    Who runs Hollywood? C'mon

    Pollster: Jews voted Clinton more than any other group

    Jewish groups, politicians furious over Trump's far-right pandering

    Jewish Voters, Prized in Swing State Florida, Tell What Drives Them

    Jews, Multiculturalism, and Boasian Anthropology on JSTOR
     
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    Poland is richer today than it was under Communism, indeed.
    Not by a whole lot, however.

    Poland does have more immigrants today. absolutely.

    There are more Muslims, more Blacks, and yes a lot of Ukrainian cheap laborers.

    Chechen refugees - Wikipedia

    [​IMG] In Poland, almost 3,600 Chechens have applied for refugee status in the first eight months of 2007 alone and over 6,000 in the next four months.[18][19] As of 2008, the Chechens are the greatest group (90% in 2007[19]) of refugees arriving in Poland, on the eastern border of the EU.



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    Poland weighs benefits of surge in migrants from Ukraine Influx of almost 1.3m last year is proving both politically and economically useful Read next FT Alphaville Thomas Hale Further Reading © AFP Share on Twitter (opens new window) Share on Facebook (opens new window) Share on LinkedIn (opens new window) Save Save to myFT Neil Buckley and Evon Huber MAY 28, 2017 35 Every three months or so, Oleksy Talalai sets out after a week at home in Khmelnitsky, western Ukraine, on the 11-hour journey to Leszno, in the west of Poland. Working in Leszno’s thriving economy installing electricity cables, Mr Talalai, 35, is part of one of Europe’s biggest — but less-noticed — mass migrations: of Ukrainians into Poland. “The main benefit of working in Poland is the money,” he says. “Earnings in Poland are much higher. There’s a crisis in Ukraine, prices are increasing. Everyone’s looking where they can earn more.” Almost 1.3m Ukrainians last year received the temporary work registrations that Poland grants to citizens of its eastern neighbour, and 116,000 more received longer-term work permits. Both figures have leapt six-fold since 2013, driven largely by the economic slump that followed Ukraine’s 2014 pro-western revolution and the Russian-fomented conflict in the country’s east. For Poland’s nationalist Law and Justice government, the Ukrainian influx is proving politically and economically useful. It helps parry EU criticisms over Warsaw’s refusal to accept quotas for Middle Eastern migrants — and to fill labour shortages following the exodus of 2m Poles seeking higher wages further west, shortages that could be exacerbated by current government policies. There are concerns in western Europe, however, that with the EU granting visa-free travel to Ukrainians from next month, similar inflows could be seen elsewhere. Poland may remain an exceptional case as, unlike most EU states, it has partially opened its labour market to Ukrainians. For now, Warsaw ministers are keen to draw parallels between Poland’s absorption of Ukrainians and Germany’s welcoming of 1m Syrian refugees in 2015. “I can’t accept that Poland does not agree to accept migrants,” Witold Waszczykowski, foreign minister, told this year’s Munich Security Conference. “We just have a different geographical location and different migration pattern.” In fact, unlike the Syrian exodus, most Ukrainian arrivals are not refugees fleeing the war-scarred east. Little over 6,000 Ukrainians have sought asylum in Poland since 2014, according to official figures. Poland was running out of workers in agriculture. In some sense, part of western Europe’s demographic problem has been moved to Poland Tomasz Wieladek, economist The majority are working-age economic migrants attracted by the prospect of earning five times as much as they can doing the same job in Ukraine, thanks in part to a sharp devaluation of the Ukrainian currency. Close cultural ties and linguistic similarities — even if the two countries have sometimes had tricky relations — mean Ukrainians are easily assimilated. “Everyone wants to earn good money. I travel for work and so do Poles,” shrugs Mr Talalai. Tomasz Wieladek, a Polish-born economist at Barclays in London who has studied Ukrainian migration, says Ukrainians fill similar jobs in Poland to those Polish migrants do in Germany, above all in the services industry and hospitality trade. His research suggests the Ukrainian inflow has slowed Polish wage growth. That is good for competitiveness and attracting investors — but, in a perhaps ironic twist, it may fuel continued westward migration by Poles. “Poles coming to Britain have helped the UK’s demographic problem,” says Mr Wieladek. “Poland has the same demographic issue. One reason they started this registration scheme [for Ukrainians and others] in 2008 was because Poland was running out of workers in agriculture. In some sense, part of western Europe’s demographic problem has been moved to Poland.” He adds that Ukrainians also offset potential shortages caused by Law and Justice’s social policies, including lowering the retirement age and paying generous child benefits that might prompt lower-paid mothers to stay at home. Not everyone welcomes the phenomenon. One government adviser calls it “absurd” that Poland spends large sums educating Poles who leave and must be replaced by workers from next door. Moving to Poland? Poland allows citizens of Belarus, Ukraine, Russia, Moldova and Georgia to register for six months’ work out of the subsequent 12. It also offers three-year permits to foreigners with formal job offers After staying five years, foreigners can become citizens But a survey by Work Service, an employment agency and consultancy, in February found one-third of companies in Poland had problems finding workers, especially blue-collar ones. Almost 40 per cent forecast they would hire Ukrainians. “Ukrainians earn the same wages as Poles, they’re not cheap labour, as opposed to Poles hired in western Europe,” says Blazej Madejski, vice-president of Pro-Net Media, which installs telecoms and electricity transmission lines and is Mr Talalai’s employer. “There are few Poles left in [construction] here as they work in the EU. Without the Ukrainians, our company couldn’t be efficient.” Yuri Kariagin, a Ukrainian with Polish origins who heads a Ukrainian workers’ union in Poland, says that before 2014, many Ukrainians went to Russia to work. “Now the majority come to Poland,” he says. “It’s six months working, then back to their family with the money, to renovate the apartment, or help children with their education.” Some Polish employers fear impending visa-free access for Ukrainians across the EU could tempt them to chase higher wages further west. But without employment rights, work opportunities will be mostly in the insecure shadow economy. Mr Talalai is happy in Leszno. “Maybe you can earn more in other EU countries, but it’s further away,” he says. “Here, earnings are more than enough and I can visit home every few months. There’s no place like home.” Additional reporting by Zosia Wasik



     
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    There was no Ukrainian Government when Bandera supported one of the most gruesome genocides of WW2.

    Explain?

    They were akin to Anarchist Peasant rebels.... Well... A little different because Nazis ruled them.

    However... The Nazis didn't do Wolyn Massacre... Ukrainian peasants did so with axes, and burning villages etc.

    Proof that you don't need big government for genocide.





     

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