anti gunners do not like "Gunsplaining" because it requires knowing the truth, the facts and reality

[Skull Pilot]

so what?

you denied the FACT that murders are not counted unless there is a conviction and I don't think the UK cops have an 85% murder clearance rate

Meh, they probably have a higher clearance rate than we do because they aren't investigating nearly as many.

The point was that your own document said it was a combo of acquittals (which could mean anything) and self defense, but gun murders were counted one for one.

So when they said they had 48 gun murders compared to our 11,000... that's what they had.

More opinion with no proof

 

[Geaux4it]

Oh is that a new word the NRA made up.

No, twit...it is a word an irritated anti gun extremist made up for when he is corrected in his stupid statements about guns by someone who actually knows what they are talking about...

LMAO.... Like 'gun safety '

Personally, I loathe safety's on a concealed carry pistol.

-Geaux

 

[Geaux4it]

Gun grabbers do not want the general public to understand that THIS...

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....is a semi-automatic....or "fully" semi-automatic, if you're that idiot on CNN...

and what does the magazine hold.

Not enough

-Geaux

 

[Penelope]

Gun grabbers do not want the general public to understand that THIS...

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....is a semi-automatic....or "fully" semi-automatic, if you're that idiot on CNN...

and what does the magazine hold.

Not enough

-Geaux

Not enough for what, a drunk shooter, or just a bad shot.

 

[Geaux4it]

Gun grabbers do not want the general public to understand that THIS...

View attachment 181082

....is a semi-automatic....or "fully" semi-automatic, if you're that idiot on CNN...

and what does the magazine hold.

Not enough

-Geaux

Not enough for what, a drunk shooter, or just a bad shot.

Just like the police. They carry (15) rounds because when they engage they 'spray and pray'

You can never have enough ammo in a firefight

-Geaux

 

[Skull Pilot]

Gun grabbers do not want the general public to understand that THIS...

View attachment 181082

....is a semi-automatic....or "fully" semi-automatic, if you're that idiot on CNN...

and what does the magazine hold.

Not enough

-Geaux

Not enough for what, a drunk shooter, or just a bad shot.

So do you really think every cop out there with a 15 round magazine in their service weapons are bad shots?

It makes no difference how many rounds a magazine holds

 

[2aguy]

More of your made up "facts" I see.

Nope. Just can't correct your ignorance.

3% of Americans own half the country's 265 million guns

Overall, Americans own an estimated 265 million guns – more than one gun for every American adult, according to the study by researchers at Harvard and Northeastern universities. Half of those guns – 133 million – were in the hands of just 3% of American adults, so-called “super owners” who possessed an average of 17 guns each, it showed.

• An estimated 55 million Americans own guns.
• The percentage of the U.S. population who own guns decreased slightly from 25% in 1994 to 22% last year.
• Between 300,000 and 600,000 guns are stolen each year.

And that statistic is a lie......American gun owners are no longer telling anonymous telephone pollsters or pollsters of any kind how many guns they own.....not after the democrats in various cities decided to release the names and addresses of gun owners.....

The anti gunners are lying again when they put out that fake statistic on gun ownership...

The truth...the biggest growth area in gun ownership is minorities and women, two groups that have been the lowest level of gun ownership in the country, and now they are buying guns by the boatload...

 

[2aguy]

Oh so now it matters how they count crimes but when I post the actual British document from the house of commons stating that the UK only counts murders as those homicides that result in a conviction you tell em I'm wrong

Except that's not what htey do, and the documents you presented said nothing of the sort. English clearly isn't your strong point.

But it doesn't matter the Brits call them crimes and they are reported as crimes so the UK actually does have 3 times more crime per capita than the US

No, it doesn't matter. They call anyone coping a feel a rape, while we only count it if someone gets penetrated... We could also talk about reporting rates... a lot of stuff doesn't get reported in this country because the cops don't give a shit.

But on something we can concretely number...

48 gun homicides in the UK vs. 11,000 in the US.

We suck at this.

You keep citing their gun murder rate....knowing full well that their gun crime rates are going up....23% just last year on top of increasing all the other years....and up 42% in London...that means, genius....that their criminals are getting and using more guns.....their gun banning and confiscation is not working.....their criminals are just not committing murder as often or as easily....yet. But that is changing...their teenagers are knifing each other to death all over England, so using a gun is going to be a quick step for them.....


Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

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He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

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Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

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Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

 

[2aguy]

There is no enforcement of traffic during rush hour in my area. The police are overwhelmed by accidents alone.
School speed zones are widely ignored and rarely enforced. Some drivers exceeding 20 or more over limit.
Point being that a stupid sign or feel good law has done nothing to stop a careless driver or stopped drugs or ANY type of weapon being brought to a school.

A focus on gun enforcement?
How about law enforcement.
Oh, that's right, your side openly advocates law breaking, especially regarding immigration.

Buddy, try to stick to one topic, you are all over the map.

Your side has had 10 years to reform immigration and you haven't.

No, a sign isn't going to stop a shooter, but it will stop the teacher who brings a gun onto campus because he feels bad about his 'Shortcomings", and that's the point.

Wow, a penis size reference, and that sums up the typical response.
No one destroys your arguments better than you.
We all know you despise the rights of gun owners and seek continued demonization. You are convincing absolutely no one.

As soon as we discuss guns and gun self defense, joe immediately starts to think about sex and penises........he really needs to get evaluated by a trained psychiatric professional to get his sexual wires fixed...he has them all crossed up with thoughts about guns.....that is dangerous and he needs help...

 

[JoeB131]

More opinion with no proof

I'm not the one who selectively edited a government report to give a misleading picture... that would be you.

 

[JoeB131]

You keep citing their gun murder rate....knowing full well that their gun crime rates are going up....23% just last year on top of increasing all the other years....and up 42% in London...that means, genius

That their numbers were so small to start with that even small number bump them.

Look, guy, I know you've learned the 'How to Lie with percentages" really good..

but 48 gun murders compared to 11,000? They've got this problem solved. We don't.