Anthropologically makes no sense to fear homosexuals

[Anguille]

Heard Bones say it on the show Bones and thought it was great.

Anthropologically makes no sense to fear homosexuals, since they are taking themselves out of the pool for competition with a mate.

So why the fear from the homophobes? REally makes no difference to them if people are gay, plus, it does limit competition for a mate.

One does not have to FEAR something to disagree with it, what a lame claim. I do not FEAR homosexuals, I do disagree with their chosen life style and have every right to disagree with it. This still is the United States of America where one is free to agree or disagree with things as they see fit, well unless the PC police get involved.

If you don't like their lifestyle, don't live it. And don't expect them to live yours.

 

[Anguille]

It is viewed in the context as an abomination. At one time nearly everyone in the country believed in some form of religion or another and they all called homosexuality an abnormal behavior and against God.

Pure fantasy on your part.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

It is viewed in the context as an abomination. At one time nearly everyone in the country believed in some form of religion or another and they all called homosexuality an abnormal behavior and against God.

Pure fantasy on your part.

Bullshit. Read the bible.

 

[Anguille]

It is viewed in the context as an abomination. At one time nearly everyone in the country believed in some form of religion or another and they all called homosexuality an abnormal behavior and against God.

Pure fantasy on your part.

Bullshit. Read the bible.

hahahahahahahaha!! The bible is a history of the US. lol!!

You need a better source than that if you are going to make the claims you have about American history.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Pure fantasy on your part.

Bullshit. Read the bible.

hahahahahahahaha!! The bible is a history of the US. lol!!

You need a better source than that if you are going to make the claims you have about American history.

Quit being so dishonest....everyone knows that the Bible is only a story about the times before, during and after Christ's life. Anyone with the literacy of a 3rd grader can read the story of Sodom and Gommora. These teachings have been instilled in nearly every Judeao/Christian faith since it's inception....don't play games...you know good and well what I'm talking about.

You're looking to pick a fight...I'm just stating facts...I could care less what homosexuals do in their own homes or with reference to their social lives....religious people see it differently...so deal with it. When you progressives have completely eliminated religion from America then maybe after a generation or so of brainwashing you can get your agenda passed...right now there are just too many people against the things they want.

 

[Anguille]

Bullshit. Read the bible.

hahahahahahahaha!! The bible is a history of the US. lol!!

You need a better source than that if you are going to make the claims you have about American history.

Quit being so dishonest....everyone knows that the Bible is only a story about the times before, during and after Christ's life. Anyone with the literacy of a 3rd grader can read the story of Sodom and Gommora. These teachings have been instilled in nearly every Judeao/Christian faith since it's inception....don't play games...you know good and well what I'm talking about.

You're looking to pick a fight...I'm just stating facts...I could care less what homosexuals do in their own homes or with reference to their social lives....religious people see it differently...so deal with it. When you progressives have completely eliminated religion from America then maybe after a generation or so of brainwashing you can get your agenda passed...right now there are just too many people against the things they want.

I knew you couldn't find any source to back up your claims that Americans where all religious at one time and al considered homosexuality to be an abomination.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

I knew you couldn't find a source that says at one time all religions embraced homosexuality as a lifestyle befitting everyone in the world.

 

[bodecea]

It is viewed in the context as an abomination. At one time nearly everyone in the country believed in some form of religion or another and they all called homosexuality an abnormal behavior and against God.

Pure fantasy on your part.

Bullshit. Read the bible.

Why should we? Is it a requirement in this country to believe what that book says?

 

[Samson]

Heard Bones say it on the show Bones and thought it was great.

Anthropologically makes no sense to fear homosexuals, since they are taking themselves out of the pool for competition with a mate.

So why the fear from the homophobes? REally makes no difference to them if people are gay, plus, it does limit competition for a mate.

I love Bones, and got a chuckle out of this line as well. However...it operates under the commonly liberal-held fallacy that disagreeing with gay marriage or thinking that homosexuality is morally wrong equates with "being afraid" of homosexuals.

I think that often, real debate and conversation about issues such as gay marriage or homosexuality never get off their feet in large part because of liberals need to scream "HOMOPHOBIA" at everyone who dares to hold a differing opinion.

It is just as useless and disruptive to true dialogue as the crazed bible-thumpers who can not debate the facts without talking about how "evil" and "disgusting" homosexuals are and how they are all going to Hell. They are entitled to that opinion...but it is irrelevant and useless to true debates regarding homosexual issues (especially those that might pop up in a political forum).

It is entirely possible to question whether or not gay marriage is a good idea without being frightened of homosexuals. In fact, its entirely possible to have absolutely nothing against gay people at all - and still question whether allowing gay marriage is a good idea for this country or not...and by labeling someone a "hater" or a "homophobe" because they have concerns only stifles debate.

In my opinion, Bones was witty in this instance...but she didn't help the debate in the long run. Instead...the writers fell back on the old standard of screaming "HOMOPHOBE" so all the liberals could feel good about themselves as they laughed at all the evil "haters" out there who are "scared of the gays."

No, not agreeing with it, even thinking its disgusting I have no issue with, its trying to prevent them from having freedoms, which tends to be based around some sort of fear that "they will turn our kids gay and make them think its acceptable. And if you paid attention to the context, it has nothing to do with what you claim above that it was some old standard the writers were screaming homophobe, they were talking about the possibility of a straight man killing a gay man, talking about potential suspects of the gay man's death, hence why she mentioned that

WTF are you babbling about?

If you paid attention to the context you'd realize Bones has no kids, and was being "objective." Her comment had more than one dimension, and the political one was to elevate the controversy that gays are somehow horribly, erroneously, and consistantly maligned by heterosexual bullies ONLY because they are misunderstood and feared.

If you were correct then Bone's line would have been:

Anthropologically makes no sense to murder homosexuals, since they are taking themselves out of the pool for competition with a mate.

 

[Cecilie1200]

No, it just makes sense and these shows don't just make shit up, there is facts in there, unless they are trying to embellish for TV, but a lot of the show is fact based. and where did I say it was true. why do people like making shit up, just to be dicks?

"These shows don't just make shit up." That's the best line I've heard in ages.

Fiction - Definition and More from the Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Man some of you just complete and utter assholes. THe science in their isn't made up. fucking a, stop being such dicks!

Stop being such a child. Turn off the idiot box and pick up a book. "Bones" is not an instruction manual on forensic science. It's a television drama, aka fiction. That they bother to include enough technical jargon for verisimilitude does not mean that they can replace pulling your head out of your ass and THINKING.

You can never go broke betting on the stupidity and laziness of people.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Bullshit. Read the bible.

hahahahahahahaha!! The bible is a history of the US. lol!!

You need a better source than that if you are going to make the claims you have about American history.

Quit being so dishonest....everyone knows that the Bible is only a story about the times before, during and after Christ's life. Anyone with the literacy of a 3rd grader can read the story of Sodom and Gommora. These teachings have been instilled in nearly every Judeao/Christian faith since it's inception....don't play games...you know good and well what I'm talking about.

You're looking to pick a fight...I'm just stating facts...I could care less what homosexuals do in their own homes or with reference to their social lives....religious people see it differently...so deal with it. When you progressives have completely eliminated religion from America then maybe after a generation or so of brainwashing you can get your agenda passed...right now there are just too many people against the things they want.

Apparently, you don't have the literacy of a 3rd grader then Pansy The Weak.............

The Sin of Sodom

Then there is the story of the destruction of the city of Sodom, (Genesis 18:16-19:29). Sodom has given its name to the now somewhat quaint-sounding term 'Sodomy', which originally meant a specific male homosexual sex act. Eventually it was expanded to mean any form of sexual expression which happened to be illegal, including things that married heterosexual couples do every day.

However, a close reading reveals the name to be a bit of a misnomer. To start off, Sodom is described simply as a 'wicked' place. Lot, Abraham's nephew, goes to live there to see if even one righteous person can be found there. The sexual theme starts when two disguised angels visit Lot. A mob, described as consisting of the men of the city, 'both young and old', attacks Lot's house and demands that Lot allow them to 'know' (in the language of the KJV) the two men. To 'know' is, of course, the famous KJV circumlocution for having sexual intercourse.

The next passage bears closer examination. Lot (Gen 19:8) asks the mob to 'do' his two virgin daughters instead, but not the two guests, 'for ... they came under the shadow of my roof.' The rest of the story is well-known: divine wrath ensues, the mob is blinded, the cities of the plain are destroyed by fire and brimstone while Lot and his family flee, Lot's wife is turned to a pillar of salt because she looks back, and only Lot and his daughters escape. In an often ignored coda to this story, Lot's daughters have incest with him by getting him intoxicated, (Gen 19:31), presumably to repopulate the country; a similar motif is found in the story of Noah. As in other Biblical narratives, even the heroes end up committing horrendous sins, driven by circumstances. But many ignore the entire context of the story in the rush to justify their own bigotry.

The sin of the city of Sodom was the originally considered to be the violation of the rights of Lot's guests. Defining the 'sin of Sodom' to be male homosexuality was a later interpretation, which was made by medieval Jewish and Christian writers, as a reaction to Pagan acceptance of homosexuality. Near Eastern hospitality, to this day, implies a responsibility to protect guests under one's roof. The fact that Lot was ready to make a huge sacrifice by offering up his virgin daughters to the mob instead of his guests underlines this.

There is abundant Haggadah, ancient Jewish folklore, which tells of the cruelty of Sodom to strangers, and their mistreatment of the poor and homeless. Among other stories, travelers are given gold but not food; when they starve to death, everything is stolen including the gold and the clothes off their backs, and their bodies are left to rot. One of Lot's unfortunate daughters is burned to death for the crime of giving a starving man food. Another woman who assists a poor man is smeared with honey and left to be stung to death by bees. Some of these stories are suffused with dark comedic twists. A poor man is assaulted and robbed. Eliezar, a servant of Abraham, is hit on the head when he intervenes. A judge rules that he must pay his assailant for medical treatment! (Bleeding was considered a surgical procedure). Eliezar then hits the judge on the head, drawing blood, and tells the judge to pay his fine. See Ginzburg's Legends of the Jews and Polano's The Talmud: Selections, for many more stories along the same lines. After reading these, I guarantee you'll be rooting for the Lord to rain down the brimstone on the cities of the plain...

There are also numerous Biblical passages warning about mistreating strangers, (with the story of Lot being implied), for instance this one in the NT: "Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares." [Heb. 13:2]

Between the original concept of a violation of the law of hospitality and the medieval focus on a particular sexual act, there is an intermediate stage where Sodom was criticized for other reasons entirely. Where Sodom is mentioned in later books of the Tanach and in the New Testament, it is used as an example of a city which was corrupted by luxury, lacking in values such as charity and humility. Nowhere is this made clearer than in Ezekiel 16:48-50, where Ezekiel, speaking for 'the Lord God', enumerates the sins of Sodom: "Saith the Lord GOD...Behold, this was the iniquity of ... Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness ... neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good".

Note that in this context 'abomination' means human sacrifice and idol worship, not shared tax breaks for long-term same-sex couples, or sexual practices you can see on cable after 10 o'clock. Furthermore, 'abomination' is at the end of the laundry list. The primary sin of Sodom, by this account, was that their society was materialistic, greedy and uncharitable. Social and economic justice is a thread that runs through the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament alike, and it is not difficult to extrapolate this to modern struggles for equality, such as those of LGBT people. When governmental and religious institutions and their leaders perpetuate oppression, it would not be farfetched to say that they are committing the actual sin of Sodom.

LGBT Texts

Glad to help educate the ignorant.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Because it is against my personal believes and morals. Plain and simple. I have to accept it or not accept my step son. that doesn't mean I have to accept it as normal or moral.

So........because of your bigoted views, you are willing to deny your step son the possibility of finding a life partner that he loves, and can be with, because you think it's abnormal and immoral?

Nice step parenting Ollie.......

If you were my stepfather, I'd run away to the orphanage.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Because it is against my personal believes and morals. Plain and simple. I have to accept it or not accept my step son. that doesn't mean I have to accept it as normal or moral.

So........because of your bigoted views, you are willing to deny your step son the possibility of finding a life partner that he loves, and can be with, because you think it's abnormal and immoral?

Nice step parenting Ollie.......

If you were my stepfather, I'd run away to the orphanage.

You stupid fuck, always sticking your foot up your own ass. In reality my step son and his partner used to live in my house. As I said I have to accept it, I don't have to believe it is normal or moral.

 

[ABikerSailor]

So..........what if he came home with his partner, stated they were moving to California to get married?

What would your bigoted old ass say then fuckstick?

I'd be willing to bet you'd leave, because you have no love, just fucked up belief systems.

 

[SFC Ollie]

So..........what if he came home with his partner, stated they were moving to California to get married?

What would your bigoted old ass say then fuckstick?

I'd be willing to bet you'd leave, because you have no love, just fucked up belief systems.

You believe what ever you like, My Stepson will do what he pleases and I will never treat him any different from any of the other kids.

But you.....you are truly a piece of work. Just go find your boyfriend and leave us sane people alone.

Who the fuck are you to tell me what to believe anyway. I was raised in a christian home and taught Christian values. But you even try to twist that. I trust you do understand the word try. And just so you understand that means you are a big time failure.

Now go away kid you bother people.

 

[Political Junky]

The series [Bones] is based on the life of forensic anthropologist Kathy Reich, who is a producer on the show. Its title character, Dr. Temperance "Bones" Brennan is named after Temperance Brennan, the protagonist of Reichs' crime novel series.

 

[Dr Gregg]

"These shows don't just make shit up." That's the best line I've heard in ages.

Fiction - Definition and More from the Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Man some of you just complete and utter assholes. THe science in their isn't made up. fucking a, stop being such dicks!

Stop being such a child. Turn off the idiot box and pick up a book. "Bones" is not an instruction manual on forensic science. It's a television drama, aka fiction. That they bother to include enough technical jargon for verisimilitude does not mean that they can replace pulling your head out of your ass and THINKING.

You can never go broke betting on the stupidity and laziness of people.

I read plenty books thank you, and there is real science in there. Maybe cause I am a scientist I'm smart enough to realize the real science from the fiction.

To deny there is real science in shows like that, like ER, CSI, etc sounds pretty moronic to me

 

[gautama]

So..........what if he came home with his partner, stated they were moving to California to get married?

What would your bigoted old ass say then fuckstick?

I'd be willing to bet you'd leave, because you have no love, just fucked up belief systems.

This little pervert's idea of love is to have someone's dripping cock hanging outa his mouth.

What a pathetic Obamarrhoidal turd.

No wonder he is insane.

 

[SFC Ollie]

So..........what if he came home with his partner, stated they were moving to California to get married?

What would your bigoted old ass say then fuckstick?

I'd be willing to bet you'd leave, because you have no love, just fucked up belief systems.

This little pervert's idea of love is to have someone's dripping cock hanging outa his mouth.

What a pathetic Obamarrhoidal turd.

No wonder he is insane.

He's an ass, but it's ok because he knows it.

 

[Anguille]

I love Bones, and got a chuckle out of this line as well. However...it operates under the commonly liberal-held fallacy that disagreeing with gay marriage or thinking that homosexuality is morally wrong equates with "being afraid" of homosexuals.

I think that often, real debate and conversation about issues such as gay marriage or homosexuality never get off their feet in large part because of liberals need to scream "HOMOPHOBIA" at everyone who dares to hold a differing opinion.

It is just as useless and disruptive to true dialogue as the crazed bible-thumpers who can not debate the facts without talking about how "evil" and "disgusting" homosexuals are and how they are all going to Hell. They are entitled to that opinion...but it is irrelevant and useless to true debates regarding homosexual issues (especially those that might pop up in a political forum).

It is entirely possible to question whether or not gay marriage is a good idea without being frightened of homosexuals. In fact, its entirely possible to have absolutely nothing against gay people at all - and still question whether allowing gay marriage is a good idea for this country or not...and by labeling someone a "hater" or a "homophobe" because they have concerns only stifles debate.

In my opinion, Bones was witty in this instance...but she didn't help the debate in the long run. Instead...the writers fell back on the old standard of screaming "HOMOPHOBE" so all the liberals could feel good about themselves as they laughed at all the evil "haters" out there who are "scared of the gays."

No, not agreeing with it, even thinking its disgusting I have no issue with, its trying to prevent them from having freedoms, which tends to be based around some sort of fear that "they will turn our kids gay and make them think its acceptable. And if you paid attention to the context, it has nothing to do with what you claim above that it was some old standard the writers were screaming homophobe, they were talking about the possibility of a straight man killing a gay man, talking about potential suspects of the gay man's death, hence why she mentioned that

WTF are you babbling about?

If you paid attention to the context you'd realize Bones has no kids, and was being "objective." Her comment had more than one dimension, and the political one was to elevate the controversy that gays are somehow horribly, erroneously, and consistantly maligned by heterosexual bullies ONLY because they are misunderstood and feared.

If you were correct then Bone's line would have been:

Anthropologically makes no sense to murder homosexuals, since they are taking themselves out of the pool for competition with a mate.

Bones has a son.
nevermind. You meant the other Bones.