Anthony Weiner Goes Ballistic

[Charles_Main]

Do you think he was justified in doing so?


Anthony Weiner Goes Ballistic At GOP For Killing 9/11 Responders Health Care Bill (VIDEO)

They are playing politics with the 9/11 Families Bill.

They could pass it right now, but have decided to Require 290 Votes in a move Calculated as a tool to Bash Republicans for Opposing the more controversial Parts of the Bill.

If they want it passed, It could be passed to right now. They have 255 Votes and could pass it with 218.

Shameless political Games at people expense being played by Democrats....AGAIN. just like they did with the Unemployment extension. They could have paid for it with unspent stimulus funds but chose a chance to paint Republicans as heartless instead.

 

[martybegan]

just to inform the ignorant, what they voted against was taking care of the first-responders from 9/11 who are sick and dying.

the disgusting rightwingnuts tried to add on an amendment to the bill dealing with illegal immigrants

it's weiner's constituents who are affected... unlike the trash who voted against the bill.

go anthony!

DemocRATS shouldn't have Dishonestly tacked on things that are NOT for "first responders"...



peace...

Where's the Republican version of the bill with the offending sections removed? Where's there explanation of what changes should be made?

Cowards.

You lack an understanding of how the House works. The party not in power rarely introduces bills, most of the one they "introduce" are just for show.

 

[WillowTree]

they rammed through HCR why does weenie need more money?

 

[Baruch Menachem]

Weiner is a member of the house. they don't do cloture there.

The House leadership set this up to require two thirds to pass because they didn't want it to pass. They didn't want the solution, they wanted a stick to beat the Republicans with.

The Republicans also had a problem with all kinds of extraneous matter stuck in there that didn't belong. Also a typical tactic of the last three years. You got an important thing in a bad bill with bad stuff that no one wanted to pass, but they wanted a convenient tool to make political hay with.

If they wanted it to pass, they would have allowed stripping out the stupid, and a simple vote on the measure.

Now the problem is still there, they can set up a new tar baby, and the folks who needed the help are SOL. it is the folks like Weiner that should be called out for playing this kind of stupid game.

 

[Jeremy]

they rammed through HCR why does weenie need more money?

For a few more six packs and a bottle of mustard. Duh....

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Do you think he was justified in doing so?


Anthony Weiner Goes Ballistic At GOP For Killing 9/11 Responders Health Care Bill (VIDEO)

They are playing politics with the 9/11 Families Bill.

They could pass it right now, but have decided to Require 290 Votes in a move Calculated as a tool to Bash Republicans for Opposing the more controversial Parts of the Bill.

If they want it passed, It could be passed to right now. They have 255 Votes and could pass it with 218.

Shameless political Games at people expense being played by Democrats....AGAIN. just like they did with the Unemployment extension. They could have paid for it with unspent stimulus funds but chose a chance to paint Republicans as heartless instead.

But the other side of the matter is if they did open this up like a regular bill, Republicans would insert a whole bunch of garbage into it, forcing the Dems to vote against their own bill. Of course they're playing politics. That's the only game in town.

 

[Trajan]

Do you think he was justified in doing so?


Anthony Weiner Goes Ballistic At GOP For Killing 9/11 Responders Health Care Bill (VIDEO)

They are playing politics with the 9/11 Families Bill.

They could pass it right now, but have decided to Require 290 Votes in a move Calculated as a tool to Bash Republicans for Opposing the more controversial Parts of the Bill.

If they want it passed, It could be passed to right now. They have 255 Votes and could pass it with 218.

Shameless political Games at people expense being played by Democrats....AGAIN. just like they did with the Unemployment extension. They could have paid for it with unspent stimulus funds but chose a chance to paint Republicans as heartless instead.

But the other side of the matter is if they did open this up like a regular bill, Republicans would insert a whole bunch of garbage into it, forcing the Dems to vote against their own bill. Of course they're playing politics. That's the only game in town.

exactly, and both sides do it, that why bills that pass with bi-partisan sppt. start out that way, and pass after committee compromise(s), something in this polarized atmosphere is almost impossible it appears now.

As the majority party like it or not the dems have the whip hand and are ultimately responsible if it passes or not, just as when Delay, then Hastert ran the show, they were.....


No compromise? you get a straight party line vote, thats why we need to split the friggin house more closely.

 

[martybegan]

Do you think he was justified in doing so?


Anthony Weiner Goes Ballistic At GOP For Killing 9/11 Responders Health Care Bill (VIDEO)

They are playing politics with the 9/11 Families Bill.

They could pass it right now, but have decided to Require 290 Votes in a move Calculated as a tool to Bash Republicans for Opposing the more controversial Parts of the Bill.

If they want it passed, It could be passed to right now. They have 255 Votes and could pass it with 218.

Shameless political Games at people expense being played by Democrats....AGAIN. just like they did with the Unemployment extension. They could have paid for it with unspent stimulus funds but chose a chance to paint Republicans as heartless instead.

But the other side of the matter is if they did open this up like a regular bill, Republicans would insert a whole bunch of garbage into it, forcing the Dems to vote against their own bill. Of course they're playing politics. That's the only game in town.

They could have made a rule limiting amendments. The ruling party controls the rules committee with an iron fist. o

 

[theDoctorisIn]

They are playing politics with the 9/11 Families Bill.

They could pass it right now, but have decided to Require 290 Votes in a move Calculated as a tool to Bash Republicans for Opposing the more controversial Parts of the Bill.

If they want it passed, It could be passed to right now. They have 255 Votes and could pass it with 218.

Shameless political Games at people expense being played by Democrats....AGAIN. just like they did with the Unemployment extension. They could have paid for it with unspent stimulus funds but chose a chance to paint Republicans as heartless instead.

But the other side of the matter is if they did open this up like a regular bill, Republicans would insert a whole bunch of garbage into it, forcing the Dems to vote against their own bill. Of course they're playing politics. That's the only game in town.

They could have made a rule limiting amendments. The ruling party controls the rules committee with an iron fist. o

Yeah, it doesn't work like that.

 

[martybegan]

But the other side of the matter is if they did open this up like a regular bill, Republicans would insert a whole bunch of garbage into it, forcing the Dems to vote against their own bill. Of course they're playing politics. That's the only game in town.

They could have made a rule limiting amendments. The ruling party controls the rules committee with an iron fist. o

Yeah, it doesn't work like that.

See my wiki quote on procedures of the US House for this. Why couldn't they just make a no amendment rule?

 

[Old Rocks]

Do you think he was justified in doing so?


Anthony Weiner Goes Ballistic At GOP For Killing 9/11 Responders Health Care Bill (VIDEO)

Well said, Mr Weiner. If you believe in something, vote yes. If you don't, vote no. But stop with the cowardly attempts to prevent bills from even being debated and voted on because you lack the fortitude to simply stand up and vote no.

Mr. Weiner is expressing the frustration felt by many Americans.

Bullshit.
Mr Weiner is expressing faux outrage over parliamentary procedures that he and his Democratic buddies set up. His purpose is to get elected.
This is apparent to anyone who isn't brain dead. Which is why you missed it.

The Republicans voted against the Americans out of work. The Republicans voted against aid for the people that responded during and after 9-11.

It it ain't rich, if is ain't gold, vote against it.

Ol' Rabid, ever put your life on the line for someone else? Naw, no profit in that is there. And why bother with the people that are ill from the effects of 9-11? After all, that is just history, and what have they done for us lately? Your morals and ethics are in clear view.

 

[Old Rocks]

Do you think he was justified in doing so?


Anthony Weiner Goes Ballistic At GOP For Killing 9/11 Responders Health Care Bill (VIDEO)

They are playing politics with the 9/11 Families Bill.

They could pass it right now, but have decided to Require 290 Votes in a move Calculated as a tool to Bash Republicans for Opposing the more controversial Parts of the Bill.

If they want it passed, It could be passed to right now. They have 255 Votes and could pass it with 218.

Shameless political Games at people expense being played by Democrats....AGAIN. just like they did with the Unemployment extension. They could have paid for it with unspent stimulus funds but chose a chance to paint Republicans as heartless instead.

Sure, sure. Any damned excuse.

 

[boedicca]

Anthony Weiner is Whack.

Stuff like this is just going to make it easier for his GOP opponent.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

Basic rule is, if you want us to trust you, you don't play this kind of stupid game. The way this played out is that those with the power and authority and ability to help turned an important bill into a side show and guaranteed that those who needed help didn't get it.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Anthony Weiner is Whack.

Stuff like this is just going to make it easier for his GOP opponent.

That's hilarious.

Not a chance. I doubt anyone's going to run against him, let alone beat him.

 

[boedicca]

We'll see. Bob Turner is an excellent choice for the GOP and anyone who is sympathetic to the Tea Party values.

 

[mudwhistle]

What an asshole.

Reminds me of another speaker who liked to point his finger
YouTube - Adolf Hitler - Speech (1933)

Does this mean that some of the right-wing is just like Hitler? They like to point fingers at Obama and blame him for everything.

With Obama it's a case of "He who lives by the sword dies by the sword".

Obama blames everyone....and now everyone is blaming Obama.

Poetic Justice.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

We'll see. Bob Turner is an excellent choice for the GOP and anyone who is sympathetic to the Tea Party values.

I'd be pretty shocked if that happened.

But it won't.

 

[boedicca]

What an asshole.

Reminds me of another speaker who liked to point his finger
YouTube - Adolf Hitler - Speech (1933)

Does this mean that some of the right-wing is just like Hitler? They like to point fingers at Obama and blame him for everything.

With Obama it's a case of "He who lives by the sword dies by the sword".

Obama blames everyone....and now everyone is blaming Obama.

Poetic Justice.

He who lives by the Blame Game, dies by the Blame Game.

 

[mudwhistle]

Weiner is a member of the house. they don't do cloture there.

The House leadership set this up to require two thirds to pass because they didn't want it to pass. They didn't want the solution, they wanted a stick to beat the Republicans with.

The Republicans also had a problem with all kinds of extraneous matter stuck in there that didn't belong. Also a typical tactic of the last three years. You got an important thing in a bad bill with bad stuff that no one wanted to pass, but they wanted a convenient tool to make political hay with.

If they wanted it to pass, they would have allowed stripping out the stupid, and a simple vote on the measure.

Now the problem is still there, they can set up a new tar baby, and the folks who needed the help are SOL. it is the folks like Weiner that should be called out for playing this kind of stupid game.

Pretty much the same thing they did with the Amnesty Bill.