Answer: What is 30 Million more Dem Voters

Boxer day? Does that commemorate the start of the Boxer Rebellion?
 
If any type of bill passes and then the GOP lies get exposed....people with pre existing conditions get care, costs go down over time, the end of the world does not come about...

oh if I were GOP I'd be afraid

LOL.... riiiiight. name one nation with socialized medicine that this is the actual outcome.

Hoax and Spare Change... Hoax and Spare Change.

So Fitzy, not too quick on the uptake, eh?

Ever here about 5 other Capitalist Democracies and how they do health care? They all have their up and down sides but none are socialist nations.

Keep doing the monkey dance and drinking the koolaid.
Personally I have yet to see the justifications for cheaper care proven out when all economics points to more expensive health care. Canada's just come out saying that their clinics are going broke, because there's not enough money in the system to keep ERs open. Operating rooms in Edmonton 9 out of 16 have been shut down for 3 weeks because they can't afford to operate them. Canadian doctors are fleeing the profession or the nation in droves. Cleveland is the Canadian Hip Replacement capital. Now, we have a population of what? 10-12 times that of Canada. Those problems are going to hit that much faster.

Now recently the British press has been getting stories about how the government there is concerned on how to stave off the bankruptcy of THEIR single payer system as well.

Soaring drugs bill 'threatens to bankrupt NHS' | Society | The Guardian

Reality check: Canada's government health care system - CNN.com

That's just a couple stories. Where will you go once the fast option of the US is gone?
 
When the only way to get the bill passed is by bribing members of your OWN party, something is seriously wrong.

You want to be cool with that for something minor...go for it....but when talking about 1/6 of the economy as well as peoples lives......none of us should be ok with something passing with zero bi partsanshpi AND STILL requiring bribes of memebers of ones own party to get it passed.

Why do you call a process that helped found the USA bribery?

If stupid and ignorant old people like you were allowed into the Continental Congress we'd be celebrating Boxer Day soon.
There you go.....making lots of sense.
Another name caller I choose not to debate with.
You can claim this a win if you would like. No skin off of my back.
Of course not. That'd be elective surgery they won't pay for. Or if they do, there's a huge waiting list.
 
This bill does none of that. Further it taxes us for 4 years before doing a damn thing. It is loaded with special deals for certain Congressmen and Senators and is going to cost a fortune and will RAISE Health Care Costs.

So you are trying to sound the alarm for the proletariat to rise up and protest what is as xpmmon as shit on your upper lip? lol

All bills in this country, since the the revolutionary days (and before) have contained sections favoring one side or another. What is about democratic process that irritates yiu rigt wing kooks so much, the fact that there are no dictators to enforce conformity or the fact that life is unfair?

When the only way to get the bill passed is by bribing members of your OWN party, something is seriously wrong.

You want to be cool with that for something minor...go for it....but when talking about 1/6 of the economy as well as peoples lives......none of us should be ok with something passing with zero bi partsanshpi AND STILL requiring bribes of memebers of ones own party to get it passed.

There was no bribery Sorry.

Now put down the koolaid and come out with your hands up. We're from the state mental hospital and we're here to help you, but you've got to put down the koolaid.
 
When the only way to get the bill passed is by bribing members of your OWN party, something is seriously wrong.

You want to be cool with that for something minor...go for it....but when talking about 1/6 of the economy as well as peoples lives......none of us should be ok with something passing with zero bi partsanshpi AND STILL requiring bribes of memebers of ones own party to get it passed.

Why do you call a process that helped found the USA bribery?

If stupid and ignorant old people like you were allowed into the Continental Congress we'd be celebrating Boxer Day soon.
There you go.....making lots of sense.
Another name caller I choose not to debate with.
You can claim this a win if you would like. No skin off of my back.
Of course the history of this great nation and how the greatest political system in the history of the world works is of no interest to you.

You are a selfish and blind nitwit with no sense of duty or obligation to truth, justice and the American way.

d.
:cool:
 
LOL.... riiiiight. name one nation with socialized medicine that this is the actual outcome.

Hoax and Spare Change... Hoax and Spare Change.

So Fitzy, not too quick on the uptake, eh?

Ever here about 5 other Capitalist Democracies and how they do health care? They all have their up and down sides but none are socialist nations.

Keep doing the monkey dance and drinking the koolaid.
Personally I have yet to see the justifications for cheaper care proven out when all economics points to more expensive health care. Canada's just come out saying that their clinics are going broke, because there's not enough money in the system to keep ERs open. Operating rooms in Edmonton 9 out of 16 have been shut down for 3 weeks because they can't afford to operate them. Canadian doctors are fleeing the profession or the nation in droves. Cleveland is the Canadian Hip Replacement capital. Now, we have a population of what? 10-12 times that of Canada. Those problems are going to hit that much faster.
More expensive? Of course...we will be insuring more people. Hello? But cheaper in delivery of services is what we are seeking. Plus the CBO says it will decrease the debt. Hello?

We are N-O-T exploring the way Canada delivers anything. No one has proposed the US gvernment running hospitals. Hello?

Why not be honest?

Now recently the British press has been getting stories about how the government there is concerned on how to stave off the bankruptcy of THEIR single payer system as well.

Soaring drugs bill 'threatens to bankrupt NHS' | Society | The Guardian

Reality check: Canada's government health care system - CNN.com

That's just a couple stories. Where will you go once the fast option of the US is gone?
The British model is N-
O-T what has been proposed. Why the deceit, deception and deflection?

Why not try this model as a case for discussion:
Switzerland
An interview with an expert on Switzerland's system +Percentage of GDP spent on health care: 11.6

Average monthly family premium: $750, paid entirely by consumers; there are government subsidies for low-income citizens.

Co-payments: 10 percent of the cost of services, up to $420 per year.

What is it? The Swiss system is social insurance like in Japan and Germany, voted in by a national referendum in 1994. Switzerland didn't have far to go to achieve universal coverage; 95 percent of the population already had voluntary insurance when the law was passed. All citizens are required to have coverage; those not covered were automatically assigned to a company. The government provides assistance to those who can't afford the premiums.

How does it work? The Swiss example shows that universal coverage is possible, even in a highly capitalist nation with powerful insurance and pharmaceutical industries. Insurance companies are not allowed to make a profit on basic care and are prohibited from cherry-picking only young and healthy applicants. They can make money on supplemental insurance, however. As in Germany, the insurers negotiate with providers to set standard prices for services, but drug prices are set by the government.

What are the concerns? The Swiss system is the second most expensive in the world -- but it's still far cheaper than U.S. health care. Drug prices are still slightly higher than in other European nations, and even then the discounts may be subsidized by the more expensive U.S. market, where some Swiss drug companies make one-third of their profits. In general, the Swiss do not have gatekeeper doctors, although some insurance plans require them or give a discount to consumers who use them.
 
So you are trying to sound the alarm for the proletariat to rise up and protest what is as xpmmon as shit on your upper lip? lol

All bills in this country, since the the revolutionary days (and before) have contained sections favoring one side or another. What is about democratic process that irritates yiu rigt wing kooks so much, the fact that there are no dictators to enforce conformity or the fact that life is unfair?

When the only way to get the bill passed is by bribing members of your OWN party, something is seriously wrong.

You want to be cool with that for something minor...go for it....but when talking about 1/6 of the economy as well as peoples lives......none of us should be ok with something passing with zero bi partsanshpi AND STILL requiring bribes of memebers of ones own party to get it passed.

There was no bribery Sorry.

Now put down the koolaid and come out with your hands up. We're from the state mental hospital and we're here to help you, but you've got to put down the koolaid.

i don't know what you call it then. but why does 49 states now pay extra for Nebraska? That is bribery. And your newspeak cannot change that.
 
and we aren't doing the swiss system either. Or German... unless you count what was done in the 1930's.
 
I think VA and NJ and local election in Democrat Westchester and Nassau County already tell what the public sentiment is on Obama and ObamaCare
 
When the only way to get the bill passed is by bribing members of your OWN party, something is seriously wrong.

You want to be cool with that for something minor...go for it....but when talking about 1/6 of the economy as well as peoples lives......none of us should be ok with something passing with zero bi partsanshpi AND STILL requiring bribes of memebers of ones own party to get it passed.

There was no bribery Sorry.

Now put down the koolaid and come out with your hands up. We're from the state mental hospital and we're here to help you, but you've got to put down the koolaid.

i don't know what you call it then. but why does 49 states now pay extra for Nebraska? That is bribery. And your newspeak cannot change that.

It's called government. We as states do not pay extra for anyone when they get something. There are arbitrary formulas for most things. GEt a life and stop whinng and creating drama.

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LOL

Yeah Dems think they going to throw American elderly under the Obama bus to pay for Illegal Aliens and everyone is going to love them for it.

LOL
 
There was no bribery Sorry.

Now put down the koolaid and come out with your hands up. We're from the state mental hospital and we're here to help you, but you've got to put down the koolaid.

i don't know what you call it then. but why does 49 states now pay extra for Nebraska? That is bribery. And your newspeak cannot change that.

It's called government. We as states do not pay extra for anyone when they get something. There are arbitrary formulas for most things. GEt a life and stop whinng and creating drama.

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There is no whine or drama here, my heart can't take it. And the people from the other 49 states will now pay for the increase to medicaid for Nebraska. Even the Governor from Nebraska didn't like it. So you get a life and do try to keep up.
 
i don't know what you call it then. but why does 49 states now pay extra for Nebraska? That is bribery. And your newspeak cannot change that.

It's called government. We as states do not pay extra for anyone when they get something. There are arbitrary formulas for most things. GEt a life and stop whinng and creating drama.

.

There is no whine or drama here, my heart can't take it. And the people from the other 49 states will now pay for the increase to medicaid for Nebraska. Even the Governor from Nebraska didn't like it. So you get a life and do try to keep up.

First you idiot...it is in a proposed bill. It has not passed yet.

Second, so what? We pay federal taxes that go to states for projects specific to each state all the time. Your logic stinks, but your drama smells spectacular. Too bad you have no principles or ideas to stand on/
 
It's called government. We as states do not pay extra for anyone when they get something. There are arbitrary formulas for most things. GEt a life and stop whinng and creating drama.

.

There is no whine or drama here, my heart can't take it. And the people from the other 49 states will now pay for the increase to medicaid for Nebraska. Even the Governor from Nebraska didn't like it. So you get a life and do try to keep up.

First you idiot...it is in a proposed bill. It has not passed yet.

Second, so what? We pay federal taxes that go to states for projects specific to each state all the time. Your logic stinks, but your drama smells spectacular. Too bad you have no principles or ideas to stand on/

Idiot? The bill has passed the house and senate, it now will be combined in committee. Do you truly believe that they will take out the "Provision" (spelled bribe) that will pay off Nebraska? They may loose that vote if they do. I hope they loose 15 votes or better in the Senate after the house cuts away all their Bribes.
 
There was no bribery Sorry.

Now put down the koolaid and come out with your hands up. We're from the state mental hospital and we're here to help you, but you've got to put down the koolaid.

i don't know what you call it then. but why does 49 states now pay extra for Nebraska? That is bribery. And your newspeak cannot change that.

It's called government. We as states do not pay extra for anyone when they get something. There are arbitrary formulas for most things. GEt a life and stop whinng and creating drama.

.
Ah! The "Shut up and get in the gas chamber... NO TALKING!" argument.
 
These fake outrages are funny. Republicans can sweep every (never happened before)single election in 2010. And still be in the minority People like Barbara Boxer would have to , and that will never happen. Way too many people who use their brains
in her district.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:....no really....
 
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There is no whine or drama here, my heart can't take it. And the people from the other 49 states will now pay for the increase to medicaid for Nebraska. Even the Governor from Nebraska didn't like it. So you get a life and do try to keep up.

First you idiot...it is in a proposed bill. It has not passed yet.

Second, so what? We pay federal taxes that go to states for projects specific to each state all the time. Your logic stinks, but your drama smells spectacular. Too bad you have no principles or ideas to stand on/

Idiot? The bill has passed the house and senate, it now will be combined in committee. Do you truly believe that they will take out the "Provision" (spelled bribe) that will pay off Nebraska? They may loose that vote if they do. I hope they loose 15 votes or better in the Senate after the house cuts away all their Bribes.

Bribery is a legal offense. There is nothing illegal here.

when you stop howling at the full moon make sure to stop by the nurse's sation and get your meds
 
i don't know what you call it then. but why does 49 states now pay extra for Nebraska? That is bribery. And your newspeak cannot change that.

It's called government. We as states do not pay extra for anyone when they get something. There are arbitrary formulas for most things. GEt a life and stop whinng and creating drama.

.
Ah! The "Shut up and get in the gas chamber... NO TALKING!" argument.

yeah, get to the gas chamber....

cuckoo...cuckoo...cuckoo...cuckoo...

cuckoo...cuckoo...cuckoo...cuckoo...

cuckoo...cuckoo...cuckoo...cuckoo...

cuckoo...cuckoo...cuckoo...cuckoo...

cuckoo...cuckoo...cuckoo...cuckoo...
 
These fake outrages are funny. Republicans can sweep every (never happened before)single election in 2010. And still be in the minority People like Barbara Boxer would have to , and that will never happen. Way too many people who use their brains
in her district.

You would think the fake outrages would've stopped by now, but its,s the crack of the conservative movement. Brain chemistry has changes. The cons have become pavlovian chimps programed to be outraged.
 

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