another view other than Costas'

Japan lacked the capability to invade Pearl Harbor

Why? Logistics

They could not have sustained an invasion force. They never had a capability to support an invasion force in Mainland US

Yet they attacked pearl they stroke fast. The attack had nothing to do with sustain an invasion break the spirit with a quick hit and then you can come in for the kill with a sustain invasion

Pearl Harbor was an attack on the US Fleet not a precursor to an invasion. Yamamoto lacked the invasion craft and knew he could not support an invasion force once it landed
Re-read what I posted, and stop acting stupid.
 
Interesting slant on things
AMERICA'S HUNTERS ---
Pretty Amazing!

The world's largest army... America 's hunters!

There were over 600,000 hunters
this season in the state of Wisconsin ..
Allow me to restate that number:
600,000

Over the last several months,
Wisconsin's hunters became the eighth largest army in the world.

More men under arms than in Iran .

More than France and Germany combined.

These men deployed to
the woods of a single American state, Wisconsin , to hunt with
firearms, and no one was killed.

That number pales in comparison to the 750,000 who hunted the woods of Pennsylvania and
Michigan's 700,000 hunters,
all of whom have now returned home safely.
Toss in a quarter million hunters
in West Virginia and it literally establishes the fact that the hunters of those four states alone
would comprise the largest army in the world.
And then add in the total number of hunters in the other 46 states.
It's millions more.

The point?

America will forever be safe
from foreign invasion with that
kind of home-grown firepower.


Hunting...
it's not just a way to fill the freezer. It's a matter of national security.

***************************************
That's why all enemies,
foreign and domestic,
want to see us
disarmed.

Food for thought,
when next we consider gun control.

Overall it's true,
so if we disregard some assumptions that hunters
don't possess the same skills as soldiers, the question would still remain...
What army of 2 million would want to face 30, 40, 50 million armed citizens???


For the sake of our freedom,
don't ever allow gun control
or confiscation of guns.

In your fantasy, which country exactly is supposedly militarily invading us? If it's not Canada, then I doubt that those drunk hunters are going to be much help repelling any invasion.

If it was Canada we'd just send a few Girl Scout troops to head 'em off.
 
The thread title. Has yet to be explained.

Btw I think we all know by now you wonder "whether Independentlogic knows he typed this". Enough already.

It's a view on guns "OTHER" than Costas' as the title reads, Is that so hard to understand ?

It is, since Bob Costas' commentary had nothing whatsoever to do with hunting or with armed citizenry. So one of these is not like the other. I can only assume you were trying to conflate apples and oranges to produce a false premise, unless of course there's an element I missed. That's what I'm waiting for.:eusa_whistle:

Obviously a statement like this:
Our gun culture kept us from being invaded in world war two. and it has more than likely as Chuck said kept us from being invaded at all.
... is mindless unless the errant writer apparently thinks the flintlock on his shelf is the same thing as the armaments of the US military (which is why it begat the very appropriate Beverly Hillbillies analogy). So that one's out.

The OP went into an elaborate portrait of the hunter population that somehow morphed itself into either some imaginary international mob bent on removing those hunters' tools, or a wistful look back at an 18th century ragtag army of American freedom fighters; wheras Costas made a social commentary on current 2012 cultural values. I'm just scratching my head as to how you connected the dots from the first two to the third. Let alone the first two with each other.

For a thread related to guns, that's ...aimless. Kind of a firearms version of the Nixon Checkers Speech.

NO kidding ? Costas gave an opinion and a view in guns, this is another. Simple as that JEEEEZ... get a life
 
NO kidding ? Costas gave an opinion and a view in guns, this is another. Simple as that JEEEEZ... get a life

"Get a life"? Dude this is your thread. Why post threads you can't explain?

Costas gave an opinion on "gun culture", not guns -- which also had nothing to do with hunting or the second Amendment. Costas' point and your point have no effect on each other. They're not related. Shall we assume then that your title was just a cheap trick to take the focus off the gun culture he was actually talking about?

By the way--
... how's that gun culture doing in the last week or two? Faded into obscurity yet?
 
NO kidding ? Costas gave an opinion and a view in guns, this is another. Simple as that JEEEEZ... get a life

"Get a life"? Dude this is your thread. Why post threads you can't explain?

Costas gave an opinion on "gun culture", not guns -- which also had nothing to do with hunting or the second Amendment. Costas' point and your point have no effect on each other. They're not related. Shall we assume then that your title was just a cheap trick to take the focus off the gun culture he was actually talking about?

By the way--
... how's that gun culture doing in the last week or two? Faded into obscurity yet?

It was explained in simple English. You seem to be the only one that doesn't understand it. The gun culture has to do with the entire culture and the way things have become. Go to you tube, and search Paul Harvey If I were the Devil .. and you might get a hint
 
NO kidding ? Costas gave an opinion and a view in guns, this is another. Simple as that JEEEEZ... get a life

"Get a life"? Dude this is your thread. Why post threads you can't explain?

Costas gave an opinion on "gun culture", not guns -- which also had nothing to do with hunting or the second Amendment. Costas' point and your point have no effect on each other. They're not related. Shall we assume then that your title was just a cheap trick to take the focus off the gun culture he was actually talking about?

By the way--
... how's that gun culture doing in the last week or two? Faded into obscurity yet?

It was explained in simple English. You seem to be the only one that doesn't understand it. The gun culture has to do with the entire culture and the way things have become. Go to you tube, and search Paul Harvey If I were the Devil .. and you might get a hint

OK now you're completely incoherent. Neither Bob Costas nor your OP has anything to do with Paul Harvey, and your OP has nothing to do with the Costas commentary. Is it simply that you're unable to admit you were wrong?

And no, I'm not going on a freaking YouTube search to connect obscure dots you should have connected before you started. Not my job.
 
"Why is stupid shit like this in Politics?"

First.. only a "stupid Shit" whould think that this is stupid shit.

Second Amendment rights, gun laws, the 2nd amendment, and gun control are a big part of today's politics

You don't see the quote button right underneath everyone's posts?
 
Another dumb fuck equating the ownership of hunting guns with the assault weopons and cheap handguns used by the gang bangers.

The fruitloops shooting up the malls and theaters don't go in with lever and bolt action hunting rifles. They go in with assault weopons, semiautomatic, with clips with tens of shots in each clip. These weopons should not be sold to the general public at all. And the worst pornography on the magazine racks are the magazines glorifying these weopons designed for one purpose only, to kill people.

If you cannot defend yourself adaquetely with a high powered rifle with five rounds, you should not have a gun in the first place.
wow, a dumb fuck that thinks hunters go hunting with rifles ONLY....

Every hunter I know goes into the woods with hand guns as well. A few corrupt gang bangers compared to 20 million people is your argument?

You cannot be this dumb.
 
Interesting slant on things
AMERICA'S HUNTERS ---
Pretty Amazing!

The world's largest army... America 's hunters!

There were over 600,000 hunters
this season in the state of Wisconsin ..
Allow me to restate that number:
600,000

Over the last several months,
Wisconsin's hunters became the eighth largest army in the world.

More men under arms than in Iran .

More than France and Germany combined.

These men deployed to
the woods of a single American state, Wisconsin , to hunt with
firearms, and no one was killed.

That number pales in comparison to the 750,000 who hunted the woods of Pennsylvania and
Michigan's 700,000 hunters,
all of whom have now returned home safely.
Toss in a quarter million hunters
in West Virginia and it literally establishes the fact that the hunters of those four states alone
would comprise the largest army in the world.
And then add in the total number of hunters in the other 46 states.
It's millions more.

The point?

America will forever be safe
from foreign invasion with that
kind of home-grown firepower.


Hunting...
it's not just a way to fill the freezer. It's a matter of national security.

***************************************
That's why all enemies,
foreign and domestic,
want to see us
disarmed.

Food for thought,
when next we consider gun control.

Overall it's true,
so if we disregard some assumptions that hunters
don't possess the same skills as soldiers, the question would still remain...
What army of 2 million would want to face 30, 40, 50 million armed citizens???


For the sake of our freedom,
don't ever allow gun control
or confiscation of guns.

In your fantasy, which country exactly is supposedly militarily invading us? If it's not Canada, then I doubt that those drunk hunters are going to be much help repelling any invasion.
Your ignorance is overwhelming.

I know of very few hunters who drink while hunting. Afterward maybe, but not during.

I know this may be difficult for you to grasp, but any country looking to invade us (not countries saying they will) will be deterred by the size of the population willing to stand up and defend this country.

I know if scares the juices out of you, but gun ownership by private citizens is the most formidable force on this planet.
 
In your fantasy, which country exactly is supposedly militarily invading us? If it's not Canada, then I doubt that those drunk hunters are going to by much help repelling any invasion.

I think 20 or 30 million "drunk hunters" would manage a lot better than you think.

Many of them are ex-military, and ALL of them would be 'highly motivated'.

Large numbers of drunks with weapons are more likely to become undisciplined (and uncontrolled) roving gangs who will forcibly take whatever they want from frightened civilians as opposed to being any kind of serious threat to an invading army. At least that's what history tends to show.
You really should not post when you have been drinking.
 
"Get a life"? Dude this is your thread. Why post threads you can't explain?

Costas gave an opinion on "gun culture", not guns -- which also had nothing to do with hunting or the second Amendment. Costas' point and your point have no effect on each other. They're not related. Shall we assume then that your title was just a cheap trick to take the focus off the gun culture he was actually talking about?

By the way--
... how's that gun culture doing in the last week or two? Faded into obscurity yet?

It was explained in simple English. You seem to be the only one that doesn't understand it. The gun culture has to do with the entire culture and the way things have become. Go to you tube, and search Paul Harvey If I were the Devil .. and you might get a hint

OK now you're completely incoherent. Neither Bob Costas nor your OP has anything to do with Paul Harvey, and your OP has nothing to do with the Costas commentary. Is it simply that you're unable to admit you were wrong?

And no, I'm not going on a freaking YouTube search to connect obscure dots you should have connected before you started. Not my job.

It all has to do with the "culture" that you mentioned. Try to keep up..
 
It was explained in simple English. You seem to be the only one that doesn't understand it. The gun culture has to do with the entire culture and the way things have become. Go to you tube, and search Paul Harvey If I were the Devil .. and you might get a hint

OK now you're completely incoherent. Neither Bob Costas nor your OP has anything to do with Paul Harvey, and your OP has nothing to do with the Costas commentary. Is it simply that you're unable to admit you were wrong?

And no, I'm not going on a freaking YouTube search to connect obscure dots you should have connected before you started. Not my job.

It all has to do with the "culture" that you mentioned. Try to keep up..


I'm left to assume either you have no clue what the term "gun culture" means, or else you're saying that the only function of hunters and ragtag revolutionary armies like the one that established this country is to inflict indiscriminate bloody carnage just like Newtown and Clackamas and Aurora and Columbine and Virginia Tech and on and on... which would mean your point is either "ban all guns everywhere" or "inflict indiscriminate carnage everywhere". That's the only two things your false equivalence can mean.

Not easy to "keep up" with logic like that.
 
OK now you're completely incoherent. Neither Bob Costas nor your OP has anything to do with Paul Harvey, and your OP has nothing to do with the Costas commentary. Is it simply that you're unable to admit you were wrong?

And no, I'm not going on a freaking YouTube search to connect obscure dots you should have connected before you started. Not my job.

It all has to do with the "culture" that you mentioned. Try to keep up..


I'm left to assume either you have no clue what the term "gun culture" means, or else you're saying that the only function of hunters and ragtag revolutionary armies like the one that established this country is to inflict indiscriminate bloody carnage just like Newtown and Clackamas and Aurora and Columbine and Virginia Tech and on and on... which would mean your point is either "ban all guns everywhere" or "inflict indiscriminate carnage everywhere". That's the only two things your false equivalence can mean.

Not easy to "keep up" with logic like that.

Very easy... Costas talked about the shooting by the NFL player, and his opinion on the topics concerning guns (and the culture, if you will). This is just another opinion about guns. Try to take it as that, and stop you silly diversions.
 

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