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    For the majority of this nations history you did NOT have to pay an income tax. I suggest we return to such a time. Elliminating the federal income tax brings us back to 1980's level spending. That is a great start...

    Bush and Kerry BOTH support the IRS and income tax. Badnarik proposes we elliminate the IRS. Which would you rather have?
     
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    For the majority of this nations history you did NOT have to pay an income tax. I suggest we return to such a time. Elliminating the federal income tax brings us back to 1980's level spending. That is a great start... Bush and Kerry BOTH support the IRS and income tax. Badnarik proposes we elliminate the IRS. Which would you rather have?

    It seems that the United States was able to pay its debts and run a smaller government before the income tax was passed into law.

    Today, the government is much larger with so many pork-barrel projects to pay for as well as pay for golden parachutes for the Congressmen and Presidents.

    Most of the funds that the US government gets in its coffers are curiously not from the federal income tax or corporate taxes paid by every person and business that reports earning every year.

    Does anybody have any guess as to the percent of federal income derived directly from the massive import and tariffs placed on products bought and sold to the world each day.

    People tax is about 22% and the remainder is from those import and tariffs paid to the treasury every day. But with the federal income tax, our elected representatives can control the way we live, spend, live and most importantly vote. Who do we vote for, those who HAND OUT to those who vote for them.
     
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    Which is why the GW Bush and the Republicans do not want to end it like Badnarik does. Would you give up your favorite government hand out if it meant you never had to pay income tax again?

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    Which is why the GW Bush and the Republicans do not want to end it like Badnarik (????) does. Would you give up your favorite government hand out if it meant you never had to pay income tax again? Travis Pahl

    Who is Badnarik?

    The Russians had the KGB to control the people.

    The US government has the tax to control the people.

    George W. Bush is no different than his father, Bill Clinton and a myriad of previous presidents and Congresses that do not want to give up this POWER over the poeple of the United States.

    The people will eventually take back their power or Americans will lose the freedom bought with the blood and bone of so many Amaericans in so many wars.
     
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    Thanks for asking! ;)

    Badnarik is the Libertarian Party Candidate for President. He is on the ballot in over half the states already and will likely be on them all by the end of the summer.

    He is considered by many to play a bigger spoiler role than Nader did last time (or this time). Of course in order for Nader to play even the slightest role in the election he needs to start getting on the ballot. Last I heard he had finally got on the AZ ballot. only 49 more to go! But enough about Nader. You asked about Badnarik... A good site to learn more about Badnarik is http://www.votefreedom2004.org/

    Also feel free to donate to his campaign at the Amazon.com page [ame]http://www.amazon.com/gp/misc/flag.html/104-9850446-5216766?ref=gw%5Fbr%5Fxs%5Fcc[/ame]

    He is well on his way to catching up to GW Bush on this page.

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    The name is Badnarik (with a D) and he has already WON the presidential primary for his party in a very close race.

    He is on the ballot in ONE state last i heard (a few days ago). Badnarik is already on about 30.

    He is faltering all the time. Or rather he has been faltering since he took office. If you remember, he promised nto to use the military for nation building. oops. Oh he promised a smaller federal government. oops. He promised to protect the second amendment. oops.

    Then be surprised. He is polling way higher than sharpton has in his entire life. He has more money than sharpton got. And he he did it without lying about a rape trial to get famous.

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    The name is Badnarik (with a D) and he has already WON the presidential primary for his party in a very close race.

    Badnarik, 49, of Austin, Texas, won 423 votes -- or 54 percent -- from delegates at the Libertarian Party's national convention in Atlanta on Sunday. Coming in second was movie producer Aaron Russo, followed by longtime radio talk host Gary Nolan. Whew, that was close alright. Your candidate could not carry more of his own party delegates but won by a close 54% of a whopping 423 Libertarian delegates.

    He is on the ballot in ONE state last i heard (a few days ago). Badnarik is already on about 30.

    You say you hear that Badnank is already on the ballot in 30 states. Where did you hear this news. It is not reported on the internet wire services as yet.

    He is faltering all the time. Or rather he has been faltering since he took office. If you remember, he promised nto to use the military for nation building. oops. Oh he promised a smaller federal government. oops. He promised to protect the second amendment. oops.

    Oops is that your professional opinion. But George Bush has started the financial and job market back up higher than during the entire Clinton period. Even taking inflation rates into consideration.

    George Bush has kept further attacks from our shores and has eliminated more than 2/3rds of every Al-Quida leader in the world. Your Libertarian is an isolationist and is stating that he is willing for them to attack us again.

    Then be surprised. He is polling way higher than sharpton has in his entire life. He has more money than sharpton got. And he he did it without lying about a rape trial to get famous.

    Give site reference or link but omit your own personal wishes.
     
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    54% of the delegates. There was over 800 delgates. But how many delegates is not really important. Just like other representative bodies, these delegates REPRESENTATED far more people. The fact that it was a close race does not mean that Badnarik was a weak candidate, it means that all three were strong candidates.

    www.ballot-access.org I believe is the site that I got it from. The site appears to be down right now though.

    You mean the financial and job markets are on their way back up DESPITE giant spending increases by the Bush administration.

    No. He is for not doing things that will only make it easier for terrorists organizations to recruit. Bush has made terrorist recruiters jobs easy.

    Find me a poll that even includes Sharpton and I will give you proof.

    Travis
     
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    54% of the delegates. There was over 800 delgates. But how many delegates is not really important. Just like other representative bodies, these delegates REPRESENTATED far more people. The fact that it was a close race does not mean that Badnarik was a weak candidate, it means that all three were strong candidates.

    Just how many US citizens are registered Libertarians? You said Badnarik won a close race with 54% of the vote. How close to his 54% was the next Libertarian candidate?

    www.ballot-access.org I believe is the site that I got it from. The site appears to be down right now though.

    No but this one is working right now but gives no statistics concerning states now in the Libertarian camp as required by each state law.

    http://www.lp.org/issues/

    You mean the financial and job markets are on their way back up DESPITE giant spending increases by the Bush administration.

    Right on the mark. Government coffer spending is no longer simply creating non-productive government jobs but now contracts to private companies for war material and American companies who hire Americans to rebuild Iraq and create jobs that pay for an economy that is growing and a Wallstreet that goes up.

    No. He is for not doing things that will only make it easier for terrorists organizations to recruit. Bush has made terrorist recruiters jobs easy.

    Yes George Bush has been responsible for the eliminaton of 2/3rds of the worlds Al-Qeuida terrorists and their various multi-headed organizations. Why are there no attacks against America and all the terrorists are fighting and dying in Iraq and Afghanastan.

    Is this due to the Libertarian party or is it because Bush has the guts to take the fight to the those who attacked us? You get one guess.

    Find me a poll that even includes Sharpton and I will give you proof.

    Sharpton has already backed Kerry and his wife Teresa Heinz Kerry the terrorist funding multimillionaires. There is no statistic giving any state the right to vote for a Libertarian.

    Libertarian's have the same chance to get on the ballot as they have in the past.
     

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