Another Solar Power Plus

[longknife]

Well, not quite. After getting $1.6 BILLION to build this monstrosity in the desert, now they want $539 MILLION to pay off the loan. And, as the article points out, “taxpayers will receive NONE of the millions in revenues from the plant over the next 30 years.


What the hell did WE pay for?


Well, it didn't come close to producing what the builders promised and they blame it on the sun not shining enough! Besides killing thousands of birds, there's also another problem. The sunlight is supposed to generate heat to turn turbines to generate power. When there's no sunlight, guess what? They have to use natural gas!


Read more @ World s largest solar plant applying for federal grant to pay off federal loan Fox News the ONLY news outlet with guts enough to report this.

 

[Zander]

Crony capitalism is what happens when we allow government to pick winners and losers.

 

[Tom Sweetnam]

Well, not quite. After getting $1.6 BILLION to build this monstrosity in the desert, now they want $539 MILLION to pay off the loan. And, as the article points out, “taxpayers will receive NONE of the millions in revenues from the plant over the next 30 years.


What the hell did WE pay for?


Well, it didn't come close to producing what the builders promised and they blame it on the sun not shining enough! Besides killing thousands of birds, there's also another problem. The sunlight is supposed to generate heat to turn turbines to generate power. When there's no sunlight, guess what? They have to use natural gas!




Read more @ World s largest solar plant applying for federal grant to pay off federal loan Fox News the ONLY news outlet with guts enough to report this.

The left is scrambling diligently in figuring out how to turn the sun into a hate group. Then they'll be off to hook.

 

[mamooth]

It's just conservatism at work. "Socialize the risk and privatize the profits" has always been the mantra of the Republican party.

 

[Zander]

It's just conservatism at work. "Socialize the risk and privatize the profits" has always been the mantra of the Republican party.

Yeah, everyone knows Obama is a "conservative"......

 

[Billy_Bob]

created by 6 major obama donors... no repayment penalties... now they want to not pay the bill at all... and Obama will approve it.. count on it.

 

[Old Rocks]

created by 6 major obama donors... no repayment penalties... now they want to not pay the bill at all... and Obama will approve it.. count on it.

Link, Billy Boob, link.

 

[skookerasbil]

solar energy is a joke.......a finge/niche energy source responsible for making money for a few.

They hose the suckers!!

 

[Crick]

Well, not quite. After getting $1.6 BILLION to build this monstrosity in the desert, now they want $539 MILLION to pay off the loan. And, as the article points out, “taxpayers will receive NONE of the millions in revenues from the plant over the next 30 years.


What the hell did WE pay for?


Well, it didn't come close to producing what the builders promised and they blame it on the sun not shining enough! Besides killing thousands of birds, there's also another problem. The sunlight is supposed to generate heat to turn turbines to generate power. When there's no sunlight, guess what? They have to use natural gas!

Read more @ World s largest solar plant applying for federal grant to pay off federal loan Fox News the ONLY news outlet with guts enough to report this.

Fox is not the "ONLY news outlet with guts enough to report this". A more informative and more objective article (one of many any search will find you) may be seen at At Ivanpah Solar Power Plant Energy Production Falling Well Short of Expectations Breaking Energy - Energy industry news analysis and commentary

 

[waltky]

Solar cooker heats up super fast...

South African Company Designs Unique Solar Cooker
April 30, 2016 — Two-man team of solar power technologists introduces Sol4, hot plate that heats up so fast it’s like cooking with gas or electricity

Household pollution kills more than 4 million people each year. Most of these fatalities are in the developing world, mostly in Africa. Many people die from inhaling smoke from cooking over wood or coal stoves. Solar cookers could be the answer, and a pair of inventors in South Africa have made some improvements to the technology. Ground zero for the initiative is the SunFire company in Johannesburg.

Zander Van Manen with sausages he cooked using heat from the sun.​

Moving a big metal frame with a panel of 48 mirrors attached to it, Sunfire’s solar power technologist Crosby Menzies describes the contraption. “It is four square meters of mirrors, six to eight meters in length; it is quite a large cooker. We are very pleased to have built the first one in South Africa,” Menzies says. Menzies’ partner, Zander van Manen, tilts the mirrors with a lever, until they are bouncing sunlight off another slab of mirrors, up to a point under a frying pan. Within two minutes, the sunlight heats the pan to a point that its contents – sausages and onions – are sizzling away.

Generates heat

The South African designed Sol-4 solar thermal cooker consists of an array of 48 mirrors that reflect the sun and generate heat.​

Menzies says the Sol4 solar cooker is special because it generates extreme heat very fast. “In four minutes you will have boiling water. So it is actually comparable to cooking on gas or electricity,” he says. Menzies says the device is “much friendlier” than other solar cookers, which force people to stand in the hot sun. The Sol4 allows users to cook in the shade, on a table, with only the mirrors being exposed to the sun. Menzies says wherever he has demonstrated his solar cookers people have doubted they work until they see the sun cooking their food, and the word is spreading.

SunFire solar power technologist Zander van Manen cooks on the Sol-4, with sunlight reflected onto a pan.​

"We have got literally hundreds of them going out in South Africa. We have got a project coming up in Mali, a project in Ethiopia, and another project in Uganda. I have just come back from (demonstrating the Sol4 in) Zambia. The technology really is viable. A lot of people still do not know that it works and we are working as hard as we can to change that,” he says. Menzies says the major attraction for people is that preparing meals with the sun means they no longer have to collect firewood and buy expensive coal or paraffin to cook with. Therefore, they are much less likely to develop potentially fatal respiratory diseases.

Versatile

 

[Crick]

Easier on the forests as well. Much of the deforestation in southern Africa is the result of people scavenging for firewood.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Solar cooker heats up super fast...

South African Company Designs Unique Solar Cooker
April 30, 2016 — Two-man team of solar power technologists introduces Sol4, hot plate that heats up so fast it’s like cooking with gas or electricity

Household pollution kills more than 4 million people each year. Most of these fatalities are in the developing world, mostly in Africa. Many people die from inhaling smoke from cooking over wood or coal stoves. Solar cookers could be the answer, and a pair of inventors in South Africa have made some improvements to the technology. Ground zero for the initiative is the SunFire company in Johannesburg.

Zander Van Manen with sausages he cooked using heat from the sun.​

Moving a big metal frame with a panel of 48 mirrors attached to it, Sunfire’s solar power technologist Crosby Menzies describes the contraption. “It is four square meters of mirrors, six to eight meters in length; it is quite a large cooker. We are very pleased to have built the first one in South Africa,” Menzies says. Menzies’ partner, Zander van Manen, tilts the mirrors with a lever, until they are bouncing sunlight off another slab of mirrors, up to a point under a frying pan. Within two minutes, the sunlight heats the pan to a point that its contents – sausages and onions – are sizzling away.

Generates heat

The South African designed Sol-4 solar thermal cooker consists of an array of 48 mirrors that reflect the sun and generate heat.​

Menzies says the Sol4 solar cooker is special because it generates extreme heat very fast. “In four minutes you will have boiling water. So it is actually comparable to cooking on gas or electricity,” he says. Menzies says the device is “much friendlier” than other solar cookers, which force people to stand in the hot sun. The Sol4 allows users to cook in the shade, on a table, with only the mirrors being exposed to the sun. Menzies says wherever he has demonstrated his solar cookers people have doubted they work until they see the sun cooking their food, and the word is spreading.

SunFire solar power technologist Zander van Manen cooks on the Sol-4, with sunlight reflected onto a pan.​

"We have got literally hundreds of them going out in South Africa. We have got a project coming up in Mali, a project in Ethiopia, and another project in Uganda. I have just come back from (demonstrating the Sol4 in) Zambia. The technology really is viable. A lot of people still do not know that it works and we are working as hard as we can to change that,” he says. Menzies says the major attraction for people is that preparing meals with the sun means they no longer have to collect firewood and buy expensive coal or paraffin to cook with. Therefore, they are much less likely to develop potentially fatal respiratory diseases.

Versatile

Hope you plan on cooking between 11am and 1pm each day.. Not to mention the need for heat during colder times of year and when its raining....

 

[Crick]

Colder times of the year? Does cold air block sunlight? Obviously the thing doesn't work in the dark. Did you think you were telling anyone anything they didn't already know?