Another Repub leaving the party?

[Meister]

Your insult aside, the comments of both Cheney and Limbaugh clearly look like attemps to push Powell out of the party (which is what I said), or is this just the way that Repubs bond with fellow Repubs?

I guess it must be since Powell endorsed and voted for Obama. What's your point?

My point is that the Repubs are purging themselves of any moderate voices. They have become shrill, unhinged and completely predictable in their anger at the rejection by the American voters.
Repubs need to rid themselves of the rabid right or risk becomeing irrelevant for the forseeable future.
The demographic shifts which propelled Obama are undeniable, young people (the future) have embraced the Democratic party.
So long Repubs.

The problem with the republicans is not that they are too far right. The fact is that they are more just right of center. The problem with the republicans came with Bush...he wasn't a true conservative republican. He was liberal in on some issues, and conservative on others. If you think for one minute that mainstream America is in the tank for liberalism...your grossly mistaken.
If the media hadn't elected John McCain in the primary, and a true conservative had won the primary, it very well could have been a different scenario.
By the way, I wouldn't be too proud of the young people embracing the democratic party. From my readings it seems that our public educational system is indoctrinating a generation of youth. It wasn't that long ago when the republicans were saying that the democratic party was dead. The pendulum keeps swinging, doesn't it?

 

[Tech_Esq]

So Cheney is at it again. He was running his mouth over the weekend and now is trying to push Colin Powell out of the Repub party. He thinks Rush is the guy to follow and said "is he (Powell) still a Repub?". Limbaugh echoed him and said "He should become a Dem".

I couldn't agree more, come on over Colin Powell!

Maybe Dick and Rush could star in a new Disney movie called 'Honey I Shrank the Party'!

News flash: If you were in the government of one party, then you support different party's candidate for the highest office, you've left the party.

If Powell wants to prove how he should still be considered a Republican, then he's welcome to make that argument. From what I've heard from him for the last two years, it sounds more like he's on Harry Reid's staff than anything to do with Republicans.

Cheney is just calling a spade, a goddamned shovel. I don't have a problem with frankness, I guess you do though.

 

[WillowTree]

So Cheney is at it again. He was running his mouth over the weekend and now is trying to push Colin Powell out of the Repub party. He thinks Rush is the guy to follow and said "is he (Powell) still a Repub?". Limbaugh echoed him and said "He should become a Dem".

I couldn't agree more, come on over Colin Powell!

Maybe Dick and Rush could star in a new Disney movie called 'Honey I Shrank the Party'!

News flash: If you were in the government of one party, then you support different party's candidate for the highest office, you've left the party.

If Powell wants to prove how he should still be considered a Republican, then he's welcome to make that argument. From what I've heard from him for the last two years, it sounds more like he's on Harry Reid's staff than anything to do with Republicans.

Cheney is just calling a spade, a goddamned shovel. I don't have a problem with frankness, I guess you do though.

according to the talking heads on tv.. Cheney chose correctly... look to rush for republican values.. powell voted for a democrat and threw his life long friend mccain to the curb.. now you can't get much more rino than mccain so if mccain didn't please powell then powell is a true democrat and he does in fact need to leave the party.. and cross over.. I hate a fake.

 

[Tech_Esq]

Your insult aside, the comments of both Cheney and Limbaugh clearly look like attemps to push Powell out of the party (which is what I said), or is this just the way that Repubs bond with fellow Repubs?

I guess it must be since Powell endorsed and voted for Obama. What's your point?

My point is that the Repubs are purging themselves of any moderate voices. They have become shrill, unhinged and completely predictable in their anger at the rejection by the American voters.
Repubs need to rid themselves of the rabid right or risk becomeing irrelevant for the forseeable future.
The demographic shifts which propelled Obama are undeniable, young people (the future) have embraced the Democratic party.
So long Repubs.

Well OK big boy..... Whatever keeps you warm at night.

Meantime, how about you explain to me why the Repubs have won three elections in Democrat heaven, Northern Virginia since November?

Why don't you explain to me why the Republican Gubernatorial candidate in Virginia is up 10 points over the Democrat (a former DNC chairman)?

Why don't you tell me why the Republican candidate is up 15 points over the NJ incumbent governor?

Keep thinking the Repubs are dead. You are in for a VERY rude awakening.

 

[DiveCon]

I guess it must be since Powell endorsed and voted for Obama. What's your point?

My point is that the Repubs are purging themselves of any moderate voices. They have become shrill, unhinged and completely predictable in their anger at the rejection by the American voters.
Repubs need to rid themselves of the rabid right or risk becomeing irrelevant for the forseeable future.
The demographic shifts which propelled Obama are undeniable, young people (the future) have embraced the Democratic party.
So long Repubs.

Well OK big boy..... Whatever keeps you warm at night.

Meantime, how about you explain to me why the Repubs have won three elections in Democrat heaven, Northern Virginia since November?

Why don't you explain to me why the Republican Gubernatorial candidate in Virginia is up 10 points over the Democrat (a former DNC chairman)?

Why don't you tell me why the Republican candidate is up 15 points over the NJ incumbent governor?

Keep thinking the Repubs are dead. You are in for a VERY rude awakening.

just as the repubs saying this shit a few years ago were

 

[wihosa]

I guess it must be since Powell endorsed and voted for Obama. What's your point?

My point is that the Repubs are purging themselves of any moderate voices. They have become shrill, unhinged and completely predictable in their anger at the rejection by the American voters.
Repubs need to rid themselves of the rabid right or risk becomeing irrelevant for the forseeable future.
The demographic shifts which propelled Obama are undeniable, young people (the future) have embraced the Democratic party.
So long Repubs.

Well OK big boy..... Whatever keeps you warm at night.

Meantime, how about you explain to me why the Repubs have won three elections in Democrat heaven, Northern Virginia since November?

Why don't you explain to me why the Republican Gubernatorial candidate in Virginia is up 10 points over the Democrat (a former DNC chairman)?

Why don't you tell me why the Republican candidate is up 15 points over the NJ incumbent governor?

Keep thinking the Repubs are dead. You are in for a VERY rude awakening.

Well we'll just have to wait and see if all your 'victories' materialize, won't we. But my point that the Repubs are puposely pushing out 'moderates' is undeniable. Only 21% of voters self-identify are Repubs in recent polls. Over 200,000 voters in Penn. switched parties to vote for Obama. If you don't see these trends as important I can't help you.

 

[DiveCon]

My point is that the Repubs are purging themselves of any moderate voices. They have become shrill, unhinged and completely predictable in their anger at the rejection by the American voters.
Repubs need to rid themselves of the rabid right or risk becomeing irrelevant for the forseeable future.
The demographic shifts which propelled Obama are undeniable, young people (the future) have embraced the Democratic party.
So long Repubs.

Well OK big boy..... Whatever keeps you warm at night.

Meantime, how about you explain to me why the Repubs have won three elections in Democrat heaven, Northern Virginia since November?

Why don't you explain to me why the Republican Gubernatorial candidate in Virginia is up 10 points over the Democrat (a former DNC chairman)?

Why don't you tell me why the Republican candidate is up 15 points over the NJ incumbent governor?

Keep thinking the Repubs are dead. You are in for a VERY rude awakening.

Well we'll just have to wait and see if all your 'victories' materialize, won't we. But my point that the Repubs are puposely pushing out 'moderates' is undeniable. Only 21% of voters self-identify are Repubs in recent polls. Over 200,000 voters in Penn. switched parties to vote for Obama. If you don't see these trends as important I can't help you.

and the dems are declining also
wake the fuck up
both parties are seen as no real difference



had McCain won, he would likely be doing damn near the same stupid shit Obama is doing
except you'd be pissed as well as i am

 

[Tech_Esq]

My point is that the Repubs are purging themselves of any moderate voices. They have become shrill, unhinged and completely predictable in their anger at the rejection by the American voters.
Repubs need to rid themselves of the rabid right or risk becomeing irrelevant for the forseeable future.
The demographic shifts which propelled Obama are undeniable, young people (the future) have embraced the Democratic party.
So long Repubs.

Well OK big boy..... Whatever keeps you warm at night.

Meantime, how about you explain to me why the Repubs have won three elections in Democrat heaven, Northern Virginia since November?

Why don't you explain to me why the Republican Gubernatorial candidate in Virginia is up 10 points over the Democrat (a former DNC chairman)?

Why don't you tell me why the Republican candidate is up 15 points over the NJ incumbent governor?

Keep thinking the Repubs are dead. You are in for a VERY rude awakening.

Well we'll just have to wait and see if all your 'victories' materialize, won't we. But my point that the Repubs are puposely pushing out 'moderates' is undeniable. Only 21% of voters self-identify are Repubs in recent polls. Over 200,000 voters in Penn. switched parties to vote for Obama. If you don't see these trends as important I can't help you.

The "victories" I cited already happened. The leads that I mentioned are just that, leads. I find it interesting that in the midst of all this negativity about the Repubs and how much you are touting the Republican party is stinking corpse, they are leading in both major elections that will be held in less than 6 months.

I have, what the psychologists would call 'cognitive dissonance.' I know liberals can't get that because the definition of being a liberal is the ability to hold two diametrically opposing viewpoints in your head at one time with no dissonance.

But I digress. Either the Repubs are as down and out as you say..... a stinking corpse on the political landscape, shrinking its party and unelectable, or they are the party that is leading, by sizable margins, in two blue state elections for Governor.

So, I'm left with the old, "Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?" Well Wihoser, I'm going to have to believe my lying eyes.

 

[wihosa]

Well OK big boy..... Whatever keeps you warm at night.

Meantime, how about you explain to me why the Repubs have won three elections in Democrat heaven, Northern Virginia since November?

Why don't you explain to me why the Republican Gubernatorial candidate in Virginia is up 10 points over the Democrat (a former DNC chairman)?

Why don't you tell me why the Republican candidate is up 15 points over the NJ incumbent governor?

Keep thinking the Repubs are dead. You are in for a VERY rude awakening.

Well we'll just have to wait and see if all your 'victories' materialize, won't we. But my point that the Repubs are puposely pushing out 'moderates' is undeniable. Only 21% of voters self-identify are Repubs in recent polls. Over 200,000 voters in Penn. switched parties to vote for Obama. If you don't see these trends as important I can't help you.

The "victories" I cited already happened. The leads that I mentioned are just that, leads. I find it interesting that in the midst of all this negativity about the Repubs and how much you are touting the Republican party is stinking corpse, they are leading in both major elections that will be held in less than 6 months.

I have, what the psychologists would call 'cognitive dissonance.' I know liberals can't get that because the definition of being a liberal is the ability to hold two diametrically opposing viewpoints in your head at one time with no dissonance.

But I digress. Either the Repubs are as down and out as you say..... a stinking corpse on the political landscape, shrinking its party and unelectable, or they are the party that is leading, by sizable margins, in two blue state elections for Governor.

So, I'm left with the old, "Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?" Well Wihoser, I'm going to have to believe my lying eyes.

Need I remind you that 4 years ago Northern Virginia was solidly in the Repub column? Now you trumpeting a victory as a great win for Repubs? There are many safely Repubs
Congressional districts even in very blue states like Calif. Those wins prove nothing and it's still a long way til election day for the governors races you think may be won by Repubs.

Finally I didn't say the Repubs were dead, I said their tactic may lead to their demise, but there is no reason to let facts stand in the way of you're hurling insults.

 

[txlonghorn]

I think Forest Gump said it best...


"Powell is as Powell does. And that's all I've got to say about that."

 

[mash107]

He is dead wrong on what he said! Most American hate higher taxes and most are disgusted by the run away spending. Also it is a flawed philosophy that America can remain on the top, if she taxes our corporations, small business and individuals to death! That will bite us in the ass in the end!

Or borrow the capital that those businesses would have borrowed to go to foolish and stupid wars that don't serve in our interest,

First go back to every war after the Civil War from Spanish American War to Vietnam and you will see a Democrat on the helm! Second, the Iraq War was expensive, but it did not break our country. The mortgage meltdown broke our country. If there was no Iraq war, our economy still would have been hit hard.

s well as creating an Education bureaucracy

As the leaders of the free world our educational system is a complete joke! Something had to be done, they just did the wrong thing!

and enlarging the Medicare ponzi scheme.

Bad generalization of the program!

Oh wait, that's the Republicans who did that.

Typical leftist twisting facts, yet you complain about medicare, but you will full support UHC! You will complain about no child left behind, but you will cry about white racism for keeping the black children down in the ghetto!

If you read my other posts around here, you'd see I don't like socialism at all.. but let's give credit where credit is certainly due. Bush was as much of a socialist as Obama, if not more so. It is those failed policies that has bankrupted our country and dollar, and it's merely being continued by Obama.

 

[DiveCon]

He is dead wrong on what he said! Most American hate higher taxes and most are disgusted by the run away spending. Also it is a flawed philosophy that America can remain on the top, if she taxes our corporations, small business and individuals to death! That will bite us in the ass in the end!

First go back to every war after the Civil War from Spanish American War to Vietnam and you will see a Democrat on the helm! Second, the Iraq War was expensive, but it did not break our country. The mortgage meltdown broke our country. If there was no Iraq war, our economy still would have been hit hard.


As the leaders of the free world our educational system is a complete joke! Something had to be done, they just did the wrong thing!


Bad generalization of the program!

Oh wait, that's the Republicans who did that.

Typical leftist twisting facts, yet you complain about medicare, but you will full support UHC! You will complain about no child left behind, but you will cry about white racism for keeping the black children down in the ghetto!

If you read my other posts around here, you'd see I don't like socialism at all.. but let's give credit where credit is certainly due. Bush was as much of a socialist as Obama, if not more so. It is those failed policies that has bankrupted our country and dollar, and it's merely being continued by Obama.

YES, Bush was
and Obama is doing all the bad shit Bush was doing
only more of it


and the sad fact is, McCain would be doing the same damn thing

 

[American Horse]

So Cheney is at it again. He was running his mouth over the weekend and now is trying to push Colin Powell out of the Repub party. He thinks Rush is the guy to follow and said "is he (Powell) still a Repub?". Limbaugh echoed him and said "He should become a Dem".

I couldn't agree more, come on over Colin Powell!

Maybe Dick and Rush could star in a new Disney movie called 'Honey I Shrank the Party'!

Powell? Republican? Democrat?

Does anyone remember when Powell put his foot in the presidential sweepstakes a few years back. It seems that when he tested the waters he was unwilling to even say whether he was a Democrat or Republican. When some tried to get him to speak out on any of the issues of the day.....he wouldn't. It seems he was too moderate to take a stand. Finally he said his wife wouldn't let him run...The better part of valor one supposes.

Powell's career was forwarded by Republican Presidents beginning with Nixon who named him as a White House Fellow. He served with presidents of all stripes, Carter, Clinton, Bush I and II.

When Powell served in the Reagan Administration as a Deputy Security Advisor, he along with Chief of Staff Howard Baker argued against Reagan using the lines that made Reagan's speech at the Brandenburg Gate famous: "Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall." saying it sounded "extreme" and "unpresidential,"

On May 18, 1987, President Reagan met with his speechwriters and responded to the speech by saying, "I think we'll leave it in." that according to Kenneth T. Walsh, in "Seizing the Moment", U.S. News & World Report June 2007 pp 39-51, US News and World Report

Powell liked hanging around with Presidents. He might even have been one; the first black president instead of Obama, but he missed his chance. Then he made his famous "weapons of mass" destruction speach at the UN, something else he must regret.

Could he hope to make himself more acceptable at those Washington D.C. social evenings sipping wine with the Powers that be, now the Democrats, by joining them? Without that step wouldn't he be socially in the wilderness?

Consider another Pol who has made amends in the recent past, Alan Greenspan, who has come around with his own speech abjuring capitalism of late.

Mr Powell....please go where you are most comfortable!

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

So Cheney is at it again. He was running his mouth over the weekend and now is trying to push Colin Powell out of the Repub party. He thinks Rush is the guy to follow and said "is he (Powell) still a Repub?". Limbaugh echoed him and said "He should become a Dem".

I couldn't agree more, come on over Colin Powell!

Maybe Dick and Rush could star in a new Disney movie called 'Honey I Shrank the Party'!

GET THE FUCK OUT!

And don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way OUT... don't go away MAD... just go AWAY!

There is NO ROOM in the GOP for MODERATES... Get your LEFTIST ASS OUT!

 

[Toro]

FUCK OFF! DON'T BUY OUR COLA!

GET OUT OF HERE! WE DON'T WANT YOU OWNING OUR CARS!

WHAT ARE YOU STILL DOING HERE? WE DON'T WANT YOU AT DISNEYLAND! GET OFF OUR FUCKING RIDES!





I see that all the Harvard MBAs are left in the GOP. [/sarcasm]

 

[American Horse]

FUCK OFF! DON'T BUY OUR COLA!

GET OUT OF HERE! WE DON'T WANT YOU OWNING OUR CARS!

WHAT ARE YOU STILL DOING HERE? WE DON'T WANT YOU AT DISNEYLAND! GET OFF OUR FUCKING RIDES!

You're right about one thing; Powell, whether he knows it or nor, would destroy or drastically dilute the brand if he has his way. That is why some of us say PLEASE GO !

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

He is dead wrong on what he said! Most American hate higher taxes and most are disgusted by the run away spending. Also it is a flawed philosophy that America can remain on the top, if she taxes our corporations, small business and individuals to death! That will bite us in the ass in the end!

First go back to every war after the Civil War from Spanish American War to Vietnam and you will see a Democrat on the helm! Second, the Iraq War was expensive, but it did not break our country. The mortgage meltdown broke our country. If there was no Iraq war, our economy still would have been hit hard.


As the leaders of the free world our educational system is a complete joke! Something had to be done, they just did the wrong thing!


Bad generalization of the program!

Oh wait, that's the Republicans who did that.

Typical leftist twisting facts, yet you complain about medicare, but you will full support UHC! You will complain about no child left behind, but you will cry about white racism for keeping the black children down in the ghetto!

If you read my other posts around here, you'd see I don't like socialism at all.. but let's give credit where credit is certainly due. Bush was as much of a socialist as Obama, if not more so. It is those failed policies that has bankrupted our country and dollar, and it's merely being continued by Obama.

GW was a fascist... The Lord of the Idiots is a Marxist... While neither is accaptable... the preference must always go to the fascist where the alternative is a socialist.

Fascist AT LEAST have a love of nation... and are not as likely to be a secularist... and as such the damage wrought from them can be fixed...

What's happened here is we did 8 years with a fascists and ran a Marxist right in behind him... The results of why will be catastrophic...

I just heard a report that if we 'fixed' medicare right now, all we'd need is 38 TRILLION DOLLARS. And that the 'trust fund' for SS will be beyond the means of leftist to rationalize its existance, in just 8 years...

Partys over kids... the Left is about to hit the fan.

 

[Toro]

FUCK OFF! DON'T BUY OUR COLA!

GET OUT OF HERE! WE DON'T WANT YOU OWNING OUR CARS!

WHAT ARE YOU STILL DOING HERE? WE DON'T WANT YOU AT DISNEYLAND! GET OFF OUR FUCKING RIDES!

You're right about one thing; Powell, whether he knows it or nor, would destroy or drastically dilute the brand if he has his way. That is why some of us say PLEASE GO !

And your appeal gets less ... and less ... and less ...

 

[DiveCon]

FUCK OFF! DON'T BUY OUR COLA!

GET OUT OF HERE! WE DON'T WANT YOU OWNING OUR CARS!

WHAT ARE YOU STILL DOING HERE? WE DON'T WANT YOU AT DISNEYLAND! GET OFF OUR FUCKING RIDES!

You're right about one thing; Powell, whether he knows it or nor, would destroy or drastically dilute the brand if he has his way. That is why some of us say PLEASE GO !

And your appeal gets less ... and less ... and less ...

actually, i doubt it would hurt at all
since more than likely most of those that support Powell are of the more liberal to begin with

and it might pull more conservatives back into the party

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

FUCK OFF! DON'T BUY OUR COLA!

GET OUT OF HERE! WE DON'T WANT YOU OWNING OUR CARS!

WHAT ARE YOU STILL DOING HERE? WE DON'T WANT YOU AT DISNEYLAND! GET OFF OUR FUCKING RIDES!





I see that all the Harvard MBAs are left in the GOP. [/sarcasm]

ROFL... Precisely...

And it should be pointed out that GW Bush was a Harvard MBA... and while that doesn't say much for Harvard MBAs... he spent 8 years in office, fought a global war on multiple fronts and only managed to create a fraction of the debt that the NEXT Harvard grad has managed to roll up: A TWO TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT IN HIS FIRST 3 MONTHS...

So... by all means, all of you who Harvard MBAs who feel that what the country needs is a mixed economy... meaning a mix of bad and good economic policy...

GET THE FUCK OUT!