Another outrageous liberal Myth, top 5

[JRK]

What remarkable partisan idiocy this OP has..

Why is it accurate information would be classified this way?
I have never seen the amount of un true and out of bounds comments being mad to elect Obama to start with and then have him re elected

I have made it a priority to do my part in not allowing this to happen on my watch, when I can and without harming anyone

Part of those 6 million people ho lost there jobs sense 08 are one of the reasons the stock market is twice what it was in 09
Tarp, in 2008 kept the wheels from coming off. Yes BHO did vote for it
but GWB made it happen with Hank P
they got our money back and kept the stock market from crashing
companies tightened there belts
made profits
There stocks reacted accordingly

What did Obama have to do with any of that?
What is idiotic about this?
And who is it that is being partisan?
Who is it that is providing accurate information

 

[JRK]

It's hard to even try to converse with someone who has been lied to so completely.

I'm amazed that there is a segment of Fox watchers that still believe Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, that he was training al-Qaeda and was in some part responsible for 9/11.


Very scary stuff indeed.

lied to?
who lied to you?
where do you want to start?
DOD: Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria « Sister Toldjah
over 500 he was not suppose to have, period
part of the UN sanctions he ignored


What kind of support has Iraq given terrorists?
Safe haven, training, and financial support. In violation of international law, Iraq has also sheltered specific terrorists wanted by other countries, reportedly including:
Abu Nidal, who, until he was found dead in Baghdad in August 2002, led an organization responsible for attacks that killed some 300 people.
Palestine Liberation Front leader Abu Abbas, who was responsible for the 1985 hijacking of the Achille Laurocruise ship in the Mediterranean. Abbas was captured by U.S. forces April 15.
Two Saudis who hijacked a Saudi Arabian Airlines flight to Baghdad in 2000.
Abdul Rahman Yasin, who is on the FBI's "most wanted terrorists" list for his alleged role in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
Iraq has also provided financial support for Palestinian terror groups, including Hamas, Islamic Jihad, the Palestine Liberation Front, and the Arab Liberation Front, and it channeled money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. In April 2002, Iraq increased the amount of such payments from $10,000 to $25,000. Experts say that by promoting Israeli-Palestinian violence, Saddam may have hoped to make it harder for the United States to win Arab support for a campaign against Iraq.

IRAQ: Iraqi Ties to Terrorism - Council on Foreign Relations

It also seems easy for everyone to go back and point fingers now, but why stop here if you feel this way?
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." S
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" Rep.
- Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

SO NOW THE DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED, THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND HE TOOK US TO WAR FOR HIS OIL BUDDIES???

Wow, you just jumped right in with both feet didn't you?

People have re wrote history with this event
I am sick of it

every-one knows we invaded Iraq for many reasons
the biggest was to have a base right in the middle of the mess
Iran on one side
Syria
Just look at a map

And ask your self why did it take days to win the first time and 9 years the second time?
we were not fighting Iraqis the second time
We were fighting terrorist

 

[Nic_Driver]

lied to?
who lied to you?
where do you want to start?
DOD: Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria « Sister Toldjah
over 500 he was not suppose to have, period
part of the UN sanctions he ignored


What kind of support has Iraq given terrorists?
Safe haven, training, and financial support. In violation of international law, Iraq has also sheltered specific terrorists wanted by other countries, reportedly including:
Abu Nidal, who, until he was found dead in Baghdad in August 2002, led an organization responsible for attacks that killed some 300 people.
Palestine Liberation Front leader Abu Abbas, who was responsible for the 1985 hijacking of the Achille Laurocruise ship in the Mediterranean. Abbas was captured by U.S. forces April 15.
Two Saudis who hijacked a Saudi Arabian Airlines flight to Baghdad in 2000.
Abdul Rahman Yasin, who is on the FBI's "most wanted terrorists" list for his alleged role in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
Iraq has also provided financial support for Palestinian terror groups, including Hamas, Islamic Jihad, the Palestine Liberation Front, and the Arab Liberation Front, and it channeled money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. In April 2002, Iraq increased the amount of such payments from $10,000 to $25,000. Experts say that by promoting Israeli-Palestinian violence, Saddam may have hoped to make it harder for the United States to win Arab support for a campaign against Iraq.

IRAQ: Iraqi Ties to Terrorism - Council on Foreign Relations

It also seems easy for everyone to go back and point fingers now, but why stop here if you feel this way?
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." S
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" Rep.
- Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

SO NOW THE DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED, THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND HE TOOK US TO WAR FOR HIS OIL BUDDIES???

Wow, you just jumped right in with both feet didn't you?

People have re wrote history with this event
I am sick of it

every-one knows we invaded Iraq for many reasons
the biggest was to have a base right in the middle of the mess
Iran on one side
Syria
Just look at a map

And ask your self why did it take days to win the first time and 9 years the second time?
we were not fighting Iraqis the second time
We were fighting terrorist

Like I said, it's nearly impossible to converse with someone who has been so completely lied to.


Good luck with that JRK.

 

[JRK]

Wow, you just jumped right in with both feet didn't you?

People have re wrote history with this event
I am sick of it

every-one knows we invaded Iraq for many reasons
the biggest was to have a base right in the middle of the mess
Iran on one side
Syria
Just look at a map

And ask your self why did it take days to win the first time and 9 years the second time?
we were not fighting Iraqis the second time
We were fighting terrorist

Like I said, it's nearly impossible to converse with someone who has been so completely lied to.


Good luck with that JRK.

who has lied to you?

 

[8537]

this stupidity is the result of Fox news.

when you have a propaganda network that spews lies in place of news you get a segment of the population that can no longer tell truth from fiction.

This segment of the population is killing American democracy

You so silly

Who brought up TARP? Not me.

Ummm, the first post, the linked article and the point of the thread

So when I said:

It's amazing how pumping 600B of new currency iinto the market causes investors to book gains.

and

Between Dec 1, 2008 and March 30th, 2010.

Then again from Nov 1st, 2010 to June 30th, 2011.

To explain the rise in the stock market, you thought we were talking about TARP?

funneh.

 

[JRK]

this stupidity is the result of Fox news.

when you have a propaganda network that spews lies in place of news you get a segment of the population that can no longer tell truth from fiction.

This segment of the population is killing American democracy

You so silly

Ummm, the first post, the linked article and the point of the thread

So when I said:

It's amazing how pumping 600B of new currency iinto the market causes investors to book gains.

and

Between Dec 1, 2008 and March 30th, 2010.

Then again from Nov 1st, 2010 to June 30th, 2011.

To explain the rise in the stock market, you thought we were talking about TARP?

funneh.

No he is like me
what did those events do to help the stock market (company profits)?
600B was pumped all right

the list once more I guess
na
i am going fishing

 

[8537]

You so silly

Ummm, the first post, the linked article and the point of the thread

So when I said:


and

Between Dec 1, 2008 and March 30th, 2010.

Then again from Nov 1st, 2010 to June 30th, 2011.

To explain the rise in the stock market, you thought we were talking about TARP?

funneh.

No he is like me
what did those events do to help the stock market (company profits)?
600B was pumped all right

the list once more I guess
na
i am going fishing

When you add 600-1200B of freshly minted dollars into the market without changing the rate at which money changes hands, something must, necessarily, become more expensive.

In this case, the market for private equity got more expensive (along with a bunch of other things)

 

[R.D.]

So when I said:

It's amazing how pumping 600B of new currency iinto the market causes investors to book gains.

and

Between Dec 1, 2008 and March 30th, 2010.

Then again from Nov 1st, 2010 to June 30th, 2011.

To explain the rise in the stock market, you thought we were talking about TARP?

funneh.

No, I just thought you were not paying attention

 

[hellofromwarsaw]

Saddam didn't have to develop chemical and biological weapons- Reagan and Rumsfeld gave them to him in the eighties...The stupid adventurist covert-crazy chickenhawk Neocons fegged up Iraq and Afghan totally- Ignored warnings of 9/11. lied about mushroom clouds and yellow cake, and for good measure ruined the world economy, and Pub Dupes STILL listen to their irresponsible BS, now screwing and paralyzing the economy....
Dems passed TARP more than these A-holes, and stimulus by themselves, the reason the economy grew by 1.9% last year- pubs are now responsible for the 1.7% this year, and are STILL blowing 2012- thanks myth and lie believing Ugly 'Merican tools of the greedy rich. Fegging morons.

 

[NYcarbineer]

this stupidity is the result of Fox news.

when you have a propaganda network that spews lies in place of news you get a segment of the population that can no longer tell truth from fiction.

This segment of the population is killing American democracy

It's hard to even try to converse with someone who has been lied to so completely.

I'm amazed that there is a segment of Fox watchers that still believe Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, that he was training al-Qaeda and was in some part responsible for 9/11.


Very scary stuff indeed.

lied to?
who lied to you?
where do you want to start?
DOD: Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria « Sister Toldjah
over 500 he was not suppose to have, period
part of the UN sanctions he ignored


What kind of support has Iraq given terrorists?
Safe haven, training, and financial support. In violation of international law, Iraq has also sheltered specific terrorists wanted by other countries, reportedly including:
Abu Nidal, who, until he was found dead in Baghdad in August 2002, led an organization responsible for attacks that killed some 300 people.
Palestine Liberation Front leader Abu Abbas, who was responsible for the 1985 hijacking of the Achille Laurocruise ship in the Mediterranean. Abbas was captured by U.S. forces April 15.
Two Saudis who hijacked a Saudi Arabian Airlines flight to Baghdad in 2000.
Abdul Rahman Yasin, who is on the FBI's "most wanted terrorists" list for his alleged role in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
Iraq has also provided financial support for Palestinian terror groups, including Hamas, Islamic Jihad, the Palestine Liberation Front, and the Arab Liberation Front, and it channeled money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. In April 2002, Iraq increased the amount of such payments from $10,000 to $25,000. Experts say that by promoting Israeli-Palestinian violence, Saddam may have hoped to make it harder for the United States to win Arab support for a campaign against Iraq.

IRAQ: Iraqi Ties to Terrorism - Council on Foreign Relations

It also seems easy for everyone to go back and point fingers now, but why stop here if you feel this way?
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." S
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" Rep.
- Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

SO NOW THE DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED, THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND HE TOOK US TO WAR FOR HIS OIL BUDDIES???

Most Democrats voted against the war. Colin Powell sold the war to the world at the UN with fake pictures of non-existent WMD's.

Yes we were lied to.

 

[8537]

It's hard to even try to converse with someone who has been lied to so completely.

I'm amazed that there is a segment of Fox watchers that still believe Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, that he was training al-Qaeda and was in some part responsible for 9/11.


Very scary stuff indeed.

lied to?
who lied to you?
where do you want to start?
DOD: Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria « Sister Toldjah
over 500 he was not suppose to have, period
part of the UN sanctions he ignored


What kind of support has Iraq given terrorists?
Safe haven, training, and financial support. In violation of international law, Iraq has also sheltered specific terrorists wanted by other countries, reportedly including:
Abu Nidal, who, until he was found dead in Baghdad in August 2002, led an organization responsible for attacks that killed some 300 people.
Palestine Liberation Front leader Abu Abbas, who was responsible for the 1985 hijacking of the Achille Laurocruise ship in the Mediterranean. Abbas was captured by U.S. forces April 15.
Two Saudis who hijacked a Saudi Arabian Airlines flight to Baghdad in 2000.
Abdul Rahman Yasin, who is on the FBI's "most wanted terrorists" list for his alleged role in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
Iraq has also provided financial support for Palestinian terror groups, including Hamas, Islamic Jihad, the Palestine Liberation Front, and the Arab Liberation Front, and it channeled money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. In April 2002, Iraq increased the amount of such payments from $10,000 to $25,000. Experts say that by promoting Israeli-Palestinian violence, Saddam may have hoped to make it harder for the United States to win Arab support for a campaign against Iraq.

IRAQ: Iraqi Ties to Terrorism - Council on Foreign Relations

It also seems easy for everyone to go back and point fingers now, but why stop here if you feel this way?
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." S
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" Rep.
- Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

SO NOW THE DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED, THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND HE TOOK US TO WAR FOR HIS OIL BUDDIES???

Most Democrats voted against the war. Colin Powell sold the war to the world at the UN with fake pictures of non-existent WMD's.

Yes we were lied to.

But he quoted the reputable blogger, Sister Toldjah! Surely you're not doubting the integrity of a blogger on the interwebs?

Long before Powell went before the UN to claim that Iraq had aluminum tubes for enriching uranium, the Bush administration had been told in no uncertain terms that the tubes were not for enriching aluminum - but they let Powell say it anyway.

 

[rightwinger]

That BHO did something to turn the stock market around

Lets see, he did vote for tarp

GWB took 250 billion dollars of tax payers wealth and with Hank P save the stock market, created trillions in wealth, billions in tax revenue, and we got most of that money back
It occurred in March so for some reason BHO doing nothing in march to help the stock market, helped the stock market

BHO took over 800 billion dollars in wealth and around 300 billion in tax breaks to lose 6 million jobs sense 08

Now people thats as simple as it gets

The myth is Obama has something to do with tarp and wall street
(he did vote for it)

And as the TARP two-year anniversary hits, while the U.S. economy may be far from complete recovery, it's still standing, and over the last year, investors have been booking equities gains.
TARP a Surprising Success, Poll Says - TheStreet

More proof of the right wing unable to understand math

How does Obama lose eight million jobs since 2008 when he did not become president until 2009?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

That BHO did something to turn the stock market around

Lets see, he did vote for tarp

GWB took 250 billion dollars of tax payers wealth and with Hank P save the stock market, created trillions in wealth, billions in tax revenue, and we got most of that money back
It occurred in March so for some reason BHO doing nothing in march to help the stock market, helped the stock market

BHO took over 800 billion dollars in wealth and around 300 billion in tax breaks to lose 6 million jobs sense 08

Now people thats as simple as it gets

The myth is Obama has something to do with tarp and wall street
(he did vote for it)

And as the TARP two-year anniversary hits, while the U.S. economy may be far from complete recovery, it's still standing, and over the last year, investors have been booking equities gains.
TARP a Surprising Success, Poll Says - TheStreet

More proof of the right wing unable to understand math

How does Obama lose eight million jobs since 2008 when he did not become president until 2009?

Since when did confusing one year with another become a mathematics issue? So, I guess Obama has a math problem because he thinks there are 58 states?

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

That BHO did something to turn the stock market around

Sorry,. I've never made that claim. who are you talking to?

The myth is Obama has something to do with tarp....

That's a teabagger myth, sorry, not a liberal myth.

 

[hellofromwarsaw]

Dems passed TARP more than Pubs did.

 

[rightwinger]

That BHO did something to turn the stock market around

Lets see, he did vote for tarp

GWB took 250 billion dollars of tax payers wealth and with Hank P save the stock market, created trillions in wealth, billions in tax revenue, and we got most of that money back
It occurred in March so for some reason BHO doing nothing in march to help the stock market, helped the stock market

BHO took over 800 billion dollars in wealth and around 300 billion in tax breaks to lose 6 million jobs sense 08

Now people thats as simple as it gets

The myth is Obama has something to do with tarp and wall street
(he did vote for it)

And as the TARP two-year anniversary hits, while the U.S. economy may be far from complete recovery, it's still standing, and over the last year, investors have been booking equities gains.
TARP a Surprising Success, Poll Says - TheStreet

More proof of the right wing unable to understand math

How does Obama lose eight million jobs since 2008 when he did not become president until 2009?

Since when did confusing one year with another become a mathematics issue? So, I guess Obama has a math problem because he thinks there are 58 states?

He never said anything about there being 58 states

 

[hellofromwarsaw]

The stimulus also helped the stock market. CONFIDENCE and DEMAND- you know what fear mongering, trouble making Pubs keep screwing with...

 

[shintao]

When did this occur?

Between Dec 1, 2008 and March 30th, 2010.

Then again from Nov 1st, 2010 to June 30th, 2011.

Tarp. the original intent save wall street from collapsing
Without it, there is no recovery

Why do you say that? Wallstreet hasn't done crap but fill their own pockets. It is banks that lend to businesses and consumers.

 

[hellofromwarsaw]

"He never said anything about there being 58 states"

That's how dumb the Dupes are....ya got nothin'.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Dems passed TARP more than Pubs did.

If that's true, then the Dems were more responsible for keeping the economy from nose diving than the pubs.