Another outrageous liberal Myth, top 5

[JRK]

That BHO did something to turn the stock market around

Lets see, he did vote for tarp

GWB took 250 billion dollars of tax payers wealth and with Hank P save the stock market, created trillions in wealth, billions in tax revenue, and we got most of that money back
It occurred in March so for some reason BHO doing nothing in march to help the stock market, helped the stock market

BHO took over 800 billion dollars in wealth and around 300 billion in tax breaks to lose 6 million jobs sense 08

Now people thats as simple as it gets

The myth is Obama has something to do with tarp and wall street
(he did vote for it)

And as the TARP two-year anniversary hits, while the U.S. economy may be far from complete recovery, it's still standing, and over the last year, investors have been booking equities gains.
TARP a Surprising Success, Poll Says - TheStreet

 

[8537]

It's amazing how pumping 600B of new currency iinto the market causes investors to book gains.

 

[JRK]

It's amazing how pumping 600B of new currency iinto the market causes investors to book gains.

When did this occur?
Food and farming
$26,466
$26,431
Commerce, justice and science
$15,920
$15,810
Defense
$4,555
$4,531
Energy and the environment
$50,825
$50,775
Government
$6,858
$6,707
Homeland security
$2,755
$2,744
Outdoors, Indian reservations and the arts
$10,950
$10,545
Labor and volunteering, healthcare and social services, education, social security
$72,564
$71,271
Oversight*
$25
$25
Military and veterans
$4,281
$4,246
Foreign relations
$602
$602
Transportation and housing
$61,795
$61,051
Aid to states
$53,600
$53,600
Tax cuts
$301,278
$288,482
Individual aid
$45,788
$58,143
Individual healthcare aid
$24,749
$24,677
Health IT
$17,559
$17,559
Aid to states for Medicaid
$90,044
$90,042
$790,614
$787,241
exactly what part in this bill aided the profits of Exxon?
Apple?
Google?

maybe this one?
Outdoors, Indian reservations and the arts
$10,950
$10,545
Aid to states for Medicaid
$90,044
$90,042
Aid to states
$53,600
$53,600

 

[8537]

It's amazing how pumping 600B of new currency iinto the market causes investors to book gains.

When did this occur?

Between Dec 1, 2008 and March 30th, 2010.

Then again from Nov 1st, 2010 to June 30th, 2011.

 

[Truthmatters]

this stupidity is the result of Fox news.

when you have a propaganda network that spews lies in place of news you get a segment of the population that can no longer tell truth from fiction.

This segment of the population is killing American democracy

 

[JRK]

It's amazing how pumping 600B of new currency iinto the market causes investors to book gains.

When did this occur?

Between Dec 1, 2008 and March 30th, 2010.

Then again from Nov 1st, 2010 to June 30th, 2011.

Tarp. the original intent save wall street from collapsing
Without it, there is no recovery

 

[JRK]

this stupidity is the result of Fox news.

when you have a propaganda network that spews lies in place of news you get a segment of the population that can no longer tell truth from fiction.

This segment of the population is killing American democracy

What exact event are you talking about?
do you have a link?

 

[8537]

When did this occur?

Between Dec 1, 2008 and March 30th, 2010.

Then again from Nov 1st, 2010 to June 30th, 2011.

Tarp. the original intent save wall street from collapsing
Without it, there is no recovery

Who brought up TARP? Not me.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The stock market was lower on January 20th 2009 than it was on January 20th 2001.

Which Democratic president does JRK want to blame that on?

lol

 

[editec]

Bush II AND Obama's Treasury definitely DID prevent a banksters' meltdown which definitely would have caused the stock market to CRASH into a nighmare scenario.

Of course that did almost nothing to help the rest of Americans, but at least it prevented an worldwide economic nightmare that would have been truly catastropic.

 

[Ame®icano]

Bush II AND Obama's Treasury definitely DID prevent a banksters' meltdown which definitely would have caused the stock market to CRASH into a nighmare scenario.

Of course that did almost nothing to help the rest of Americans, but at least it prevented an worldwide economic nightmare that would have been truly catastropic.

Prevent?

They just delayed it.

 

[JRK]

The stock market was lower on January 20th 2009 than it was on January 20th 2001.

Which Democratic president does JRK want to blame that on?

lol

blame
who said anything about blame?

Let me ask you
where is it I blame anyone?
It is rare

The claim that BHO made the stock market go from 6500 to 12,000 is a lie
he had very little to do with it
if not
name the event and provide a link please

 

[JRK]

Bush II AND Obama's Treasury definitely DID prevent a banksters' meltdown which definitely would have caused the stock market to CRASH into a nighmare scenario.

Of course that did almost nothing to help the rest of Americans, but at least it prevented an worldwide economic nightmare that would have been truly catastropic.

There is allot of wealth that first 250 billion that we got most of it back did for the working class (tax payers also)

think about the 401 ks and all of the capital gains that has raised the revenue in 2010 and 2011 ( it sure was not jobs)

 

[Nic_Driver]

this stupidity is the result of Fox news.

when you have a propaganda network that spews lies in place of news you get a segment of the population that can no longer tell truth from fiction.

This segment of the population is killing American democracy

It's hard to even try to converse with someone who has been lied to so completely.

I'm amazed that there is a segment of Fox watchers that still believe Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, that he was training al-Qaeda and was in some part responsible for 9/11.


Very scary stuff indeed.

 

[yidnar]

Bush II AND Obama's Treasury definitely DID prevent a banksters' meltdown which definitely would have caused the stock market to CRASH into a nighmare scenario.

Of course that did almost nothing to help the rest of Americans, but at least it prevented an worldwide economic nightmare that would have been truly catastropic.

Prevent?

They just delayed it.

the fact is we are broke!!!BHO broke us!!!!

 

[R.D.]

this stupidity is the result of Fox news.

when you have a propaganda network that spews lies in place of news you get a segment of the population that can no longer tell truth from fiction.

This segment of the population is killing American democracy

You so silly

Who brought up TARP? Not me.

Ummm, the first post, the linked article and the point of the thread

 

[JRK]

this stupidity is the result of Fox news.

when you have a propaganda network that spews lies in place of news you get a segment of the population that can no longer tell truth from fiction.

This segment of the population is killing American democracy

It's hard to even try to converse with someone who has been lied to so completely.

I'm amazed that there is a segment of Fox watchers that still believe Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, that he was training al-Qaeda and was in some part responsible for 9/11.


Very scary stuff indeed.

lied to?
who lied to you?
where do you want to start?
DOD: Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria « Sister Toldjah
over 500 he was not suppose to have, period
part of the UN sanctions he ignored


What kind of support has Iraq given terrorists?
Safe haven, training, and financial support. In violation of international law, Iraq has also sheltered specific terrorists wanted by other countries, reportedly including:
Abu Nidal, who, until he was found dead in Baghdad in August 2002, led an organization responsible for attacks that killed some 300 people.
Palestine Liberation Front leader Abu Abbas, who was responsible for the 1985 hijacking of the Achille Laurocruise ship in the Mediterranean. Abbas was captured by U.S. forces April 15.
Two Saudis who hijacked a Saudi Arabian Airlines flight to Baghdad in 2000.
Abdul Rahman Yasin, who is on the FBI's "most wanted terrorists" list for his alleged role in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
Iraq has also provided financial support for Palestinian terror groups, including Hamas, Islamic Jihad, the Palestine Liberation Front, and the Arab Liberation Front, and it channeled money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. In April 2002, Iraq increased the amount of such payments from $10,000 to $25,000. Experts say that by promoting Israeli-Palestinian violence, Saddam may have hoped to make it harder for the United States to win Arab support for a campaign against Iraq.

IRAQ: Iraqi Ties to Terrorism - Council on Foreign Relations

It also seems easy for everyone to go back and point fingers now, but why stop here if you feel this way?
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." S
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" Rep.
- Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

SO NOW THE DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED, THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND HE TOOK US TO WAR FOR HIS OIL BUDDIES???

 

[Sallow]

What remarkable partisan idiocy this OP has..

 

[JRK]

this stupidity is the result of Fox news.

when you have a propaganda network that spews lies in place of news you get a segment of the population that can no longer tell truth from fiction.

This segment of the population is killing American democracy

You so silly

Who brought up TARP? Not me.

Ummm, the first post, the linked article and the point of the thread

8537 has become allot more civil
but he is still in denial
I respect the lefts beliefs
I do not respect false claims and denial in that support
(not directed at anyone, just a general comment)

 

[Nic_Driver]

this stupidity is the result of Fox news.

when you have a propaganda network that spews lies in place of news you get a segment of the population that can no longer tell truth from fiction.

This segment of the population is killing American democracy

It's hard to even try to converse with someone who has been lied to so completely.

I'm amazed that there is a segment of Fox watchers that still believe Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, that he was training al-Qaeda and was in some part responsible for 9/11.


Very scary stuff indeed.

lied to?
who lied to you?
where do you want to start?
DOD: Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria « Sister Toldjah
over 500 he was not suppose to have, period
part of the UN sanctions he ignored


What kind of support has Iraq given terrorists?
Safe haven, training, and financial support. In violation of international law, Iraq has also sheltered specific terrorists wanted by other countries, reportedly including:
Abu Nidal, who, until he was found dead in Baghdad in August 2002, led an organization responsible for attacks that killed some 300 people.
Palestine Liberation Front leader Abu Abbas, who was responsible for the 1985 hijacking of the Achille Laurocruise ship in the Mediterranean. Abbas was captured by U.S. forces April 15.
Two Saudis who hijacked a Saudi Arabian Airlines flight to Baghdad in 2000.
Abdul Rahman Yasin, who is on the FBI's "most wanted terrorists" list for his alleged role in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
Iraq has also provided financial support for Palestinian terror groups, including Hamas, Islamic Jihad, the Palestine Liberation Front, and the Arab Liberation Front, and it channeled money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. In April 2002, Iraq increased the amount of such payments from $10,000 to $25,000. Experts say that by promoting Israeli-Palestinian violence, Saddam may have hoped to make it harder for the United States to win Arab support for a campaign against Iraq.

IRAQ: Iraqi Ties to Terrorism - Council on Foreign Relations

It also seems easy for everyone to go back and point fingers now, but why stop here if you feel this way?
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." S
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" Rep.
- Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

SO NOW THE DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED, THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND HE TOOK US TO WAR FOR HIS OIL BUDDIES???

Wow, you just jumped right in with both feet didn't you?