Another Obama Claim Debunked

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    Remember Obama telling us that insurance premiums would go down in response to ObamaCare?
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    Health Insurers Raise Some Rates by Double Digits
    By REED ABELSON
    Published: January 5, 2013

    Health insurance companies across the country are seeking and winning double-digit increases in premiums for some customers, even though one of the biggest objectives of the Obama administration’s health care law was to stem the rapid rise in insurance costs for consumers.

    Particularly vulnerable to the high rates are small businesses and people who do not have employer-provided insurance and must buy it on their own.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/06/b...arp-rise-in-premiums.html?smid=pl-share&_r=2&
     
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    kwc57 BOHICA Obama

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    I'm just glad that we didn't have to pass it to find out what was in it. Imagine what a cluster that would have been! Oh wait......never mind.
     
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    From the article Vel cited in the original post:

     
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    So forcing insurance companies to take on risky people would drive up premiums.....nah.

    Liberals avoid the business and economics courses on their way to becoming lawyers....knowing loopholes in laws and how to sue people was more important than basic economic principles for future politcians.
     
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    Forgive me for doubting what "federal officials" say about the savings. They are the ones that said rates would go down in the first place. As someone who actually purchases insurance, I have personally seen the massive price increases. Go price an individual policy and get back to us on how much cheaper they've become.
     
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    Democraps are taking money from Medicare/Medicaid to pay for Obamacare then turning around and claiming obamacare is saving money in Medicare/Medicaid.....
     
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    Take the time like I did download from the Society of Actuaries

    SOA - Society of Actuaries - Design and Implementation Considerations of ACA Risk Mitigation Programs

    This report Design and Implementation Considerations of ACA Risk Mitigation Programs
    pages 6 and 7 and you'll see Average annual premium of $2,553 will increase (These EXPERTS calculate!!) to in 2017 $6,158 and 141% increase!!!
    A nationwide study conducted by Milliman Inc. for the Society of Actuaries found that nationwide the premiums in the individual market would increase from 8 to 37 percent in 2014
    with a cumulative increase of as much as 122 percent between 2013 and 2017!!!
     
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    Vel didn't read her own source,you basically took the title and ran with it as an attack on obamacare without reading.
    The times are mainly talking about one company that already raised premiums 39% in 2010 and is seeking more because california does not have a review process on letting companies raise rates. It would seem this one company has a poor structure system if they need to raise rates by 59% in two years.
    furthermore the article is advocating for a regulation in allowing a review process on rates.it also states rates have decreased as well and may only rise on some by 7.5, but has also dropped percentage points as well.

    If you are going to quote an article, make sure you understand what it says and not waste peoples time you fucking hack.
     
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    So the full story contradicts the premise that rates have gone up or are expected to go up?
     
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    Partisan hacks like you have little credibility.

    "Democraps." LOL

    Use of this word is not permited in this area of the board. - Newby
    LOL
     

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