Another low ice year for the Arctic

[flacaltenn]

Five years ago Joe Romm and others were putting out this type of nonsense and Old Rocks couldn't get enough of it.

August September and October should already be ice free. No ice at all in the Arctic by 2035.

Just how irresponsible is it to foist a graph like this on the uneducated public?

Joe Romm is a MIT educated PhD physicist. He knows it is a physical impossibility for there to be no ice present in the Arctic night.

So why did he release this alarmist propaganda? If he is willing to lie about this, what other things is he willing to lie about?

The prediction for Januaries is "pretty close" actually. But the 1981 to 2010 MEANS are way off high. How do the MEANS from real data get that far off?

IOW -- is the mean plotted on every Sea Ice Extent plot 1981 to 2010 for the ENTIRE YEAR? Or is the "same date" mean from history?

 

[IanC]

Five years ago Joe Romm and others were putting out this type of nonsense and Old Rocks couldn't get enough of it.

August September and October should already be ice free. No ice at all in the Arctic by 2035.

Just how irresponsible is it to foist a graph like this on the uneducated public?

Joe Romm is a MIT educated PhD physicist. He knows it is a physical impossibility for there to be no ice present in the Arctic night.

So why did he release this alarmist propaganda? If he is willing to lie about this, what other things is he willing to lie about?

The prediction for Januaries is "pretty close" actually. But the 1981 to 2010 MEANS are way off high. How do the MEANS from real data get that far off?

IOW -- is the mean plotted on every Sea Ice Extent plot 1981 to 2010 for the ENTIRE YEAR? Or is the "same date" mean from history?

Average sea ice volume by month, from PIOMAS. I think. Not sure if it was after the version change that dramatically lowered the volumes.

Didn't we just get a new algorithm for ice extent that lost another bunch of ice? Mostly from recent times?

 

[flacaltenn]

Five years ago Joe Romm and others were putting out this type of nonsense and Old Rocks couldn't get enough of it.

August September and October should already be ice free. No ice at all in the Arctic by 2035.

Just how irresponsible is it to foist a graph like this on the uneducated public?

Joe Romm is a MIT educated PhD physicist. He knows it is a physical impossibility for there to be no ice present in the Arctic night.

So why did he release this alarmist propaganda? If he is willing to lie about this, what other things is he willing to lie about?

The prediction for Januaries is "pretty close" actually. But the 1981 to 2010 MEANS are way off high. How do the MEANS from real data get that far off?

IOW -- is the mean plotted on every Sea Ice Extent plot 1981 to 2010 for the ENTIRE YEAR? Or is the "same date" mean from history?

Average sea ice volume by month, from PIOMAS. I think. Not sure if it was after the version change that dramatically lowered the volumes.

Didn't we just get a new algorithm for ice extent that lost another bunch of ice? Mostly from recent times?

The median for Jan in the day to day chart from NSIDC is about 15Km2.. No way that's the Jan median for the period 1981 to 2010 --- given the numbers on the chart you presented. Somethings not right here.

The Jan line in the Fromm chart you gave had YET TO HIT 15Km2 by 2009.. So -- what i SUSPECT IS -- that mean and variance data in the NSIDC chart is not SPECIFIC to the time of year. And instead is a simple YEARLY average.

By using a whole year mean/variance -- you GUARANTEE that any declining process will always be below the mean. Especially, if you arbitrarily limit the period to NOT include the last 10 years or so..