Another Fine Mess Obama's Gotten Us Into

Hmm. So the DOW Jones doubling is bad, right? And corporate tax rates being the lowest they've been since 1972 is bad for business too, right? Imagine how much worse for business it would have been if Congress had passed is jobs act and corporate tax rates would be even LOWER than they are now, huh? 25 straight months of jobs growth clearly means business is suffering really badly right now, right?

It would seem like Obama's done a lot of good for business. But then again, I'm not a clever girl.

It is quite literally one of the most anemic job growths in our nations history- AND that is thanks in large part to conservatives not budging on Obama's wanting to increase taxes on those earning 250k. We can thank Obama for a downgraded credit rating; business's afraid to hire; and a pessimism not seen in over70 years.

The DOW's ability to maneuver during a recession is an art form. THAT has nothing to do with the state of our economy.

S&P's statement was blunt in its assessment.

"We lowered our long-term rating on the U.S. because we believe that the prolonged controversy over raising the statutory debt ceiling and the related fiscal policy debate indicate that further near-term progress containing the growth in public spending, especially on entitlements, or on reaching an agreement on raising revenues is less likely than we previously assumed and will remain a contentious and fitful process," the ratings firm said.

S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating from AAA - USATODAY.com

And who was it that refused to raise the debt ceiling? It was not the President was it?

Shh. Don't try to argue with her. She's a Conservative. Remember, she's always right. Even when the facts, truth and historical record show otherwise.

But thanks for posting the proof that she's absolutely full of shit. And something still doesn't jive about her graph too. But whatever. At least I'm Uncensored. That guy's just an ignorant piece of shit.
 
It is quite literally one of the most anemic job growths in our nations history- AND that is thanks in large part to conservatives not budging on Obama's wanting to increase taxes on those earning 250k. We can thank Obama for a downgraded credit rating; business's afraid to hire; and a pessimism not seen in over70 years.

The DOW's ability to maneuver during a recession is an art form. THAT has nothing to do with the state of our economy.

S&P's statement was blunt in its assessment.

"We lowered our long-term rating on the U.S. because we believe that the prolonged controversy over raising the statutory debt ceiling and the related fiscal policy debate indicate that further near-term progress containing the growth in public spending, especially on entitlements, or on reaching an agreement on raising revenues is less likely than we previously assumed and will remain a contentious and fitful process," the ratings firm said.

S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating from AAA - USATODAY.com

And who was it that refused to raise the debt ceiling? It was not the President was it?

Shh. Don't try to argue with her. She's a Conservative. Remember, she's always right. Even when the facts, truth and historical record show otherwise.

But thanks for posting the proof that she's absolutely full of shit. And something still doesn't jive about her graph too. But whatever. At least I'm Uncensored. That guy's just an ignorant piece of shit.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY]Trololo Sing Along! - YouTube[/ame]
 
It is quite literally one of the most anemic job growths in our nations history- AND that is thanks in large part to conservatives not budging on Obama's wanting to increase taxes on those earning 250k. We can thank Obama for a downgraded credit rating; business's afraid to hire; and a pessimism not seen in over70 years.

The DOW's ability to maneuver during a recession is an art form. THAT has nothing to do with the state of our economy.

S&P's statement was blunt in its assessment.

"We lowered our long-term rating on the U.S. because we believe that the prolonged controversy over raising the statutory debt ceiling and the related fiscal policy debate indicate that further near-term progress containing the growth in public spending, especially on entitlements, or on reaching an agreement on raising revenues is less likely than we previously assumed and will remain a contentious and fitful process," the ratings firm said.

S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating from AAA - USATODAY.com

And who was it that refused to raise the debt ceiling? It was not the President was it?

Shh. Don't try to argue with her. She's a Conservative. Remember, she's always right. Even when the facts, truth and historical record show otherwise.

But thanks for posting the proof that she's absolutely full of shit. And something still doesn't jive about her graph too. But whatever. At least I'm Uncensored. That guy's just an ignorant piece of shit.

Like the boy who cried "Wolfe", they've been crying "Obama, the Socialist, destroyed the economy" since before he was elected. It's True, old Rashiebutt said in 2008 before the election that Obama now owned the economy, it was his.

Sad part is I believe with the help of the MSM, Mr. 1% might win.
 
Like the boy who cried "Wolfe", they've been crying "Obama, the Socialist, destroyed the economy" since before he was elected. It's True, old Rashiebutt said in 2008 before the election that Obama now owned the economy, it was his.

Sad part is I believe with the help of the MSM, Mr. 1% might win.

It's not all calm and supportive, the way you were with Bush. I mean, it's not like you'll claim electricity or patriot missiles don't work, so that you can attack the hated opposition.

You had mild criticism, but were always the model of restraint and decorum.

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You always focused on policy...

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And unlike the right, you never threatened violence...

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You leftists were supportive for the good of the nation.

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Making sure the world knew that you were united, regardless of partisan differences..
 
Like the boy who cried "Wolfe", they've been crying "Obama, the Socialist, destroyed the economy" since before he was elected. It's True, old Rashiebutt said in 2008 before the election that Obama now owned the economy, it was his.

Sad part is I believe with the help of the MSM, Mr. 1% might win.

It's not all calm and supportive, the way you were with Bush. I mean, it's not like you'll claim electricity or patriot missiles don't work, so that you can attack the hated opposition.

You had mild criticism, but were always the model of restraint and decorum.

You always focused on policy...

And unlike the right, you never threatened violence...

You leftists were supportive for the good of the nation.

Making sure the world knew that you were united, regardless of partisan differences..

I'll pass on posting silly and vile pictures of President Obama by wackos of the opposition groups, but I will remind you that Bush did have the support of the entire country and nearly the entire world.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izb459vJ-8Q]Congress sings "God Bless America" - 2001.09.11 - YouTube[/ame]

With a success rate during the first Gulf War of less than 10% no amount of Raython propaganda is going to change my mind about the effectiveness of the Patriot Missile program in destroying incoming balistic missiles. The PAC3, which tries to make a direct impact instead of exploding at the point of closest approach to the target like the PAC2 (used in the first Gulf War), has achieved success in testing but has yet to be tested in battle(thank god).

Even if you can destroy an incoming missile, it would be easy to defeat by sending decoys until your batteries are spent.

Improved Patriot Missile System Ready - ABC News

The military and Raytheon, the missile's Massachusetts-based manufacturer, officially set the Patriot's success rate at 70 percent for Scuds launched at Saudi Arabia and 40 percent for those launched at Israel.

However, the Israelis say that no more than 2 percent of the Scuds launched at their country were intercepted, and the General Accounting Office, which conducted its own study, estimates overall effectiveness at 9 percent.
 
I'll pass on posting silly and vile pictures of President Obama by wackos of the opposition groups,

Because there aren't any, as we both know. About the worst that ever occurred said he was lying (lion,) or was "Halfrican."

Zero death threats, zero calls to violence.

Violence is exclusively from you of the left.

but I will remind you that Bush did have the support of the entire country and nearly the entire world.

On 9/11/2001 - by the 13th, you were back to your shit, just as you had been on 9/10/2001.

Hail to the thief..

With a success rate during the first Gulf War of less than 10% no amount of Raython propaganda is going to change my mind about the effectiveness of the Patriot Missile program in destroying incoming balistic missiles.

It was actually about 40%, but you don't mind lying. The original Patriot used misdirection, which leads liars to claim they failed, since Scuds were not destroyed - the fact that they weren't intended to destroy the target is irrelevant to you, being that you are a demagogue seeking to slander, not a historian seeking fact.

The PAC3, which tries to make a direct impact instead of exploding at the point of closest approach to the target like the PAC2 (used in the first Gulf War), has achieved success in testing but has yet to be tested in battle(thank god).

One of the most effective uses of defensive systems is to deter aggression.

Even if you can destroy an incoming missile, it would be easy to defeat by sending decoys until your batteries are spent.

How many decoys do you believe Iran has?

The military and Raytheon, the missile's Massachusetts-based manufacturer, officially set the Patriot's success rate at 70 percent for Scuds launched at Saudi Arabia and 40 percent for those launched at Israel.

Which is 100% accurate. The system was designed to alter the course of incoming munitions, not destroy them. They did precisely what they were designed to do, saving thousands of lives.

However, the Israelis say that no more than 2 percent of the Scuds launched at their country were intercepted, and the General Accounting Office, which conducted its own study, estimates overall effectiveness at 9 percent.

They were not meant to destroy the Scuds. They kept the Scuds out of population centers, exactly as designed, saving thousands of lives.

I sleep soundly at night knowing that what I do saves lives. Does lying for your shameful party give you the same sense of comfort?
 
HA HA HA. I don't know what's more awesomely stupid. The fact that Uncensored posts the Right-Wing Dick-Suckery that he does; or that he thinks he's unbiased.

What a dumb, dumb fuck he is. A truly dumb fuck.
 
I'll pass on posting silly and vile pictures of President Obama by wackos of the opposition groups,

Because there aren't any, as we both know. About the worst that ever occurred said he was lying (lion,) or was "Halfrican."

Zero death threats, zero calls to violence.

Violence is exclusively from you of the left.

but I will remind you that Bush did have the support of the entire country and nearly the entire world.

On 9/11/2001 - by the 13th, you were back to your shit, just as you had been on 9/10/2001.

Hail to the thief..

It was actually about 40%, but you don't mind lying. The original Patriot used misdirection, which leads liars to claim they failed, since Scuds were not destroyed - the fact that they weren't intended to destroy the target is irrelevant to you, being that you are a demagogue seeking to slander, not a historian seeking fact.


One of the most effective uses of defensive systems is to deter aggression.


How many decoys do you believe Iran has?

The military and Raytheon, the missile's Massachusetts-based manufacturer, officially set the Patriot's success rate at 70 percent for Scuds launched at Saudi Arabia and 40 percent for those launched at Israel.

Which is 100% accurate. The system was designed to alter the course of incoming munitions, not destroy them. They did precisely what they were designed to do, saving thousands of lives.

However, the Israelis say that no more than 2 percent of the Scuds launched at their country were intercepted, and the General Accounting Office, which conducted its own study, estimates overall effectiveness at 9 percent.

They were not meant to destroy the Scuds. They kept the Scuds out of population centers, exactly as designed, saving thousands of lives.


I sleep soundly at night knowing that what I do saves lives. Does lying for your shameful party give you the same sense of comfort?

Again you're incorrect. It wasn't until the push was made to morph support for killing those responsible for the horrific attacks into support for the invasion and occupation of Iraq that Citizens began to turn against the President. Furthermore it wasn't until the lies about WMD and the threat posed by Iraq were discovered that a majority of American began to turn against the war.

They used a proximity fuse and most (90%) didn't explode close enough to the target to effectively deter them. Lucky for the Israelis SCUD's are not that acurate. To bad for our soldiers in Rihad because some of them were.

Iran is not our only emeny whom we want to deploy the anti missile defense

The SCUDs were not very accurate and the deploying of Patriot batteries kept the Israelis feeling safe enough to not retalitate against Iran. Iran was trying to draw in other Arab nations.
 
Hmm. So the DOW Jones doubling is bad, right? And corporate tax rates being the lowest they've been since 1972 is bad for business too, right? Imagine how much worse for business it would have been if Congress had passed is jobs act and corporate tax rates would be even LOWER than they are now, huh? 25 straight months of jobs growth clearly means business is suffering really badly right now, right?

It would seem like Obama's done a lot of good for business. But then again, I'm not a clever girl.

It is quite literally one of the most anemic job growths in our nations history- AND that is thanks in large part to conservatives not budging on Obama's wanting to increase taxes on those earning 250k. We can thank Obama for a downgraded credit rating; business's afraid to hire; and a pessimism not seen in over70 years.

The DOW's ability to maneuver during a recession is an art form. THAT has nothing to do with the state of our economy.

S&P's statement was blunt in its assessment.

"We lowered our long-term rating on the U.S. because we believe that the prolonged controversy over raising the statutory debt ceiling and the related fiscal policy debate indicate that further near-term progress containing the growth in public spending, especially on entitlements, or on reaching an agreement on raising revenues is less likely than we previously assumed and will remain a contentious and fitful process," the ratings firm said.

S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating from AAA - USATODAY.com

And who was it that refused to raise the debt ceiling? It was not the President was it?

I realize that your hackery blinds you to the obvious facts but your attempt on pining the downgrade on the right is laughable. The left is no more able to doge the blame than the right is as the entire system is broken. Had the right simply capitulated to the lefts demands we would still have been downgraded. If the left did the same we would also have been downgraded. The right will not address new income and the left will not (realistically) address spending. The super committee was an stark realization on this. The handpicked problem solvers could not reduce spending by 2 percent. JUST 2 percent!!


By the way, I notice that ConservaDerrps seems to have dropped the lie of his charts or is there an answer forthcoming to the point I brought up????
 
It is quite literally one of the most anemic job growths in our nations history- AND that is thanks in large part to conservatives not budging on Obama's wanting to increase taxes on those earning 250k. We can thank Obama for a downgraded credit rating; business's afraid to hire; and a pessimism not seen in over70 years.

The DOW's ability to maneuver during a recession is an art form. THAT has nothing to do with the state of our economy.

S&P's statement was blunt in its assessment.

"We lowered our long-term rating on the U.S. because we believe that the prolonged controversy over raising the statutory debt ceiling and the related fiscal policy debate indicate that further near-term progress containing the growth in public spending, especially on entitlements, or on reaching an agreement on raising revenues is less likely than we previously assumed and will remain a contentious and fitful process," the ratings firm said.

S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating from AAA - USATODAY.com

And who was it that refused to raise the debt ceiling? It was not the President was it?

I realize that your hackery blinds you to the obvious facts but your attempt on pining the downgrade on the right is laughable. The left is no more able to doge the blame than the right is as the entire system is broken. Had the right simply capitulated to the lefts demands we would still have been downgraded. If the left did the same we would also have been downgraded. The right will not address new income and the left will not (realistically) address spending. The super committee was an stark realization on this. The handpicked problem solvers could not reduce spending by 2 percent. JUST 2 percent!!


By the way, I notice that ConservaDerrps seems to have dropped the lie of his charts or is there an answer forthcoming to the point I brought up????

The S&P's statement was ambigous and does not place the blame for the "prolonged controversy" on either party does it? If I'm not mistaken the President did not want the debt ceiling issue tied to to the debate between increasing tax v reduction in social spending. IMHO had that not happend and the ceiling was raised (like it has been every time since deficit spending started) our rating would not have been downgraded.

I don't speak for ConservaDerrps. I do agree that the current system is broken.
 
S&P's statement was blunt in its assessment.

"We lowered our long-term rating on the U.S. because we believe that the prolonged controversy over raising the statutory debt ceiling and the related fiscal policy debate indicate that further near-term progress containing the growth in public spending, especially on entitlements, or on reaching an agreement on raising revenues is less likely than we previously assumed and will remain a contentious and fitful process," the ratings firm said.

S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating from AAA - USATODAY.com

And who was it that refused to raise the debt ceiling? It was not the President was it?

I realize that your hackery blinds you to the obvious facts but your attempt on pining the downgrade on the right is laughable. The left is no more able to doge the blame than the right is as the entire system is broken. Had the right simply capitulated to the lefts demands we would still have been downgraded. If the left did the same we would also have been downgraded. The right will not address new income and the left will not (realistically) address spending. The super committee was an stark realization on this. The handpicked problem solvers could not reduce spending by 2 percent. JUST 2 percent!!


By the way, I notice that ConservaDerrps seems to have dropped the lie of his charts or is there an answer forthcoming to the point I brought up????

The S&P's statement was ambigous and does not place the blame for the "prolonged controversy" on either party does it? If I'm not mistaken the President did not want the debt ceiling issue tied to to the debate between increasing tax v reduction in social spending. IMHO had that not happend and the ceiling was raised (like it has been every time since deficit spending started) our rating would not have been downgraded.

I don't speak for ConservaDerrps. I do agree that the current system is broken.

Then where we differ is on the belief that the debt ceiling was not the sole reason for the downgrade. I personally believe that much of it has to do with our projected deficits. The ceiling was, in fact, raised and you would be very hard pressed to claim that if it was simply raised earlier that the downgrade would not have happened. The fact is, our future ability to pay our way out of debt and the strength of the currency is called into question when there are deficits of over one trillion dollars for DECADES to come. That kind of debt is not sustainable and is a MAJOR reason (even more so than the ceiling) reason that we were downgrade as evidenced by the quote that YOU pulled.

Notice that the statement said the debt ceiling INDICATED that near term progress was unlikely in two areas:

growth in public spending especially on entitlements
raising revenues

The statement was not ambiguous at all. It was the exact opposite, to the point. Essentially they said that the fiasco over the ceiling shows that neither of these issues are going to be addressed and they were right. It is the failure to fix THESE problems that lead to the downgrade and (most likely by design) it includes one issue the left refuses to deal with and one that the right refuses to deal with.
 
I realize that your hackery blinds you to the obvious facts but your attempt on pining the downgrade on the right is laughable. The left is no more able to doge the blame than the right is as the entire system is broken. Had the right simply capitulated to the lefts demands we would still have been downgraded. If the left did the same we would also have been downgraded. The right will not address new income and the left will not (realistically) address spending. The super committee was an stark realization on this. The handpicked problem solvers could not reduce spending by 2 percent. JUST 2 percent!!


By the way, I notice that ConservaDerrps seems to have dropped the lie of his charts or is there an answer forthcoming to the point I brought up????

The S&P's statement was ambigous and does not place the blame for the "prolonged controversy" on either party does it? If I'm not mistaken the President did not want the debt ceiling issue tied to to the debate between increasing tax v reduction in social spending. IMHO had that not happend and the ceiling was raised (like it has been every time since deficit spending started) our rating would not have been downgraded.

I don't speak for ConservaDerrps. I do agree that the current system is broken.

Then where we differ is on the belief that the debt ceiling was not the sole reason for the downgrade. I personally believe that much of it has to do with our projected deficits. The ceiling was, in fact, raised and you would be very hard pressed to claim that if it was simply raised earlier that the downgrade would not have happened. The fact is, our future ability to pay our way out of debt and the strength of the currency is called into question when there are deficits of over one trillion dollars for DECADES to come. That kind of debt is not sustainable and is a MAJOR reason (even more so than the ceiling) reason that we were downgrade as evidenced by the quote that YOU pulled.

Notice that the statement said the debt ceiling INDICATED that near term progress was unlikely in two areas:

growth in public spending especially on entitlements
raising revenues

The statement was not ambiguous at all. It was the exact opposite, to the point. Essentially they said that the fiasco over the ceiling shows that neither of these issues are going to be addressed and they were right. It is the failure to fix THESE problems that lead to the downgrade and (most likely by design) it includes one issue the left refuses to deal with and one that the right refuses to deal with.

The statement was ambigous as it does not place the blame on either side... is what I should have said.

They certainly don't blame the President.

I believe that S&P would not have downgraded the US rating at that time if the debt ceiling had simple been raise like it had in all previous years without being held hostage to the ongoing contentious debate. That's not to say that it would not have been lowered if the fiscal debate yeilded nothing, but they would have had more time.

Yes both side refused to deal. Now both sides are scheduled for a big fuck'in. Who's going to renig first?
 
California is glaring evidence of the catastrophic failure of liberal policy. The most liberal state in the union, lead by idiot liberal politicians for the overwhelming majority of the past 50+ years, the state is failing miserably with a $16 billion deficit. I hope they do raise taxes - because it will cause them to have more businesses leave, higher unemployment, and an even larger deficit. Of course, the idiot liberal will still ignore reality and pretend it's not their policy that is the cause. *But at least the rest of America will see the truth.

"Firms, people, investments, and tax revenues are fleeing California, repelled by the most onerous antigrowth business environment in the United States,” Arthur Laffer writes in City Journal.

“California’s after-tax rate of return for doing business lags so far behind other states… that the exodus shouldn’t surprise anyone. Yet the state’s Democratic leadership is pushing a November ballot measure aimed at raising income and sales taxes in order to make up*for lost revenue,” he adds.

Although Laffer — himself a member of the California exodus — has lobbied for a flat tax in the broken state for years, his efforts have been met with little success. However, now that California’s financial crisis has taken on comical proportions, an embarrassing $16 billion shortfall, maybe — just maybe — state lawmakers will listen to what he has to say.

“California needs is a radical tax overhaul — to be precise, a single, low-rate flat tax. Such a reform would spur a renewal of economic activity and investment while continuing to raise the revenues that the state needs,” Laffer writes, arguing that the idea of taxing oneself into prosperity is absurd.
 

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