Another Executive Order and the WAR ON COAL CONTINUES!

[skookerasbil]

Im laughing...........much disinformation going on in this thread about coal. Don't take my word for it......go do your own research on where we will be with coal for at least the next 40-50 years!!! Oh....and take a look at what the Obama administration's ENERGY INFORMATION AGENCY outlook is on coal out to 2050!!! Too......look at where solar and coal will be in 2040......but make sure not to have just taken a sip of coffee because you will spit it all over your monitor laughing!! While you are at it, check the future of coal in China..........production will be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay higher past current levels 30 years from now!!! duh.....these people aren't stoopid!!


Lastly..........don't forget that progressives only MO is to deceive and put out a lot of gross disinformation...........double check on their phony statistics and you'll get the real poop on this!!

 

[Billy_Bob]

And you are lying. There are more jobs being created in the alternative energy sector than are being lost from coal. Not only that, they are jobs that don't kill you or give you black lung.

Fucktard LIAR!

Alt Energy is crashing like a collapsing building.. As the subsidies are withdrawn it will crumble just like it is in Europe.. Germany is now tearing down windmills and solar panels becuse they are worthless on a large scale.

 

[eagle1462010]

Ontario Wind Turbines | Ontario has the most expensive electricity in North America

The Ontario wind Power FAILURE.

 

[Crick]

Fucktard LIAR!

Alt Energy is crashing like a collapsing building.. As the subsidies are withdrawn it will crumble just like it is in Europe.. Germany is now tearing down windmills and solar panels becuse they are worthless on a large scale.

Renewable energy in Germany

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Germany's renewable energy sector is among the most innovative and successful worldwide. Net-generation fromrenewable energy sources in the German electricity sector has increased from 6.3% in 2000 to about 30% in 2014.[1][2] For the first time ever, wind, biogas, and solar combined accounted for a larger portion of net electricity production than brown coal.[3] While peak-generation from combined wind and solar reached a new all-time high of 74% in April 2014,[4] wind power saw its best day ever on December 12, 2014, generating 562 GWh.[5] Germanyhas been called "the world's first major renewable energy economy".[6][7]
More than 23,000 wind turbines and 1.4 million solar PV systems are distributed all over the country's area of 357,000 square kilometers.[8][9] As of 2011, Germany's federal government is working on a new plan for increasingrenewable energy commercialization,[10] with a particular focus on offshore wind farms.[11] A major challenge is the development of sufficient network capacities for transmitting the power generated in the North Sea to the large industrial consumers in southern parts of the country.[12]
According to official figures, some 370,000 people were employed in the renewable energy sector in 2010, especially in small and medium-sized companies. This is an increase of around 8% compared to 2009 (around 339,500 jobs), and well over twice the number of jobs in 2004 (160,500). About two-thirds of these jobs are attributed to the Renewable Energy Sources Act[13][14]
Germany's energy transition, the Energiewende, designates a significant change in energy policy from 2011. The term encompasses a reorientation of policy from demand to supply and a shift from centralized to distributed generation (for example, producing heat and power in very small cogeneration units), which should replace overproduction and avoidable energy consumption with energy-saving measures and increased efficiency.

 

[Old Rocks]

And you are lying. There are more jobs being created in the alternative energy sector than are being lost from coal. Not only that, they are jobs that don't kill you or give you black lung.

Fucktard LIAR!

Alt Energy is crashing like a collapsing building.. As the subsidies are withdrawn it will crumble just like it is in Europe.. Germany is now tearing down windmills and solar panels becuse they are worthless on a large scale.

Look, you lying little retard, just because failed your GED doesn't mean you have a license to lie. Go ahead and post a link showing where Germany is tearing down any windmills or solar.

 

[skookerasbil]

PS.....between now and 2020, Germany will be adding 20.........count 'em...........20 new coal plants!!!

Germany and coal - SourceWatch


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But the AGW liars keep telling us "coal is dead"!!!


Coal baby.........because the German people gave renewables a try and found out they got kicked in the nut sacks when they opened up their electricity bills.


OK s0ns!!!!

 

[skookerasbil]

Photo of a recently opened mine in Germany. Shit.......these people have been making the most beastly machines for over 100 years now!!! SICK!!! Hey.....the folks in Germany found out the hard way about the ginormous costs it takes to expand the windpower system.......and of course, the German pols obliged and re-upped on coal big for the rest of the decade. Because people LIKE less expensive electricity bills, which is something that the AGW k00ks think is an afterthought!!! The costs!!


f'ing duh


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By the way.......notice the handful of whimpy windmills in the background of the photo!!

 

[skookerasbil]

duh

 

[skookerasbil]

More on Germany energy........and this made me laugh..........something ONLY an AGW k00k could advocate for............

PAY BIG...........FOR NOTHING!!!


Germany's Energy Poverty: How Electricity Became a Luxury Good - SPIEGEL ONLINE

 

[Andylusion]

Fucktard LIAR!

Alt Energy is crashing like a collapsing building.. As the subsidies are withdrawn it will crumble just like it is in Europe.. Germany is now tearing down windmills and solar panels becuse they are worthless on a large scale.

Renewable energy in Germany

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Germany's renewable energy sector is among the most innovative and successful worldwide. Net-generation fromrenewable energy sources in the German electricity sector has increased from 6.3% in 2000 to about 30% in 2014.[1][2] For the first time ever, wind, biogas, and solar combined accounted for a larger portion of net electricity production than brown coal.[3] While peak-generation from combined wind and solar reached a new all-time high of 74% in April 2014,[4] wind power saw its best day ever on December 12, 2014, generating 562 GWh.[5] Germanyhas been called "the world's first major renewable energy economy".[6][7]
More than 23,000 wind turbines and 1.4 million solar PV systems are distributed all over the country's area of 357,000 square kilometers.[8][9] As of 2011, Germany's federal government is working on a new plan for increasingrenewable energy commercialization,[10] with a particular focus on offshore wind farms.[11] A major challenge is the development of sufficient network capacities for transmitting the power generated in the North Sea to the large industrial consumers in southern parts of the country.[12]
According to official figures, some 370,000 people were employed in the renewable energy sector in 2010, especially in small and medium-sized companies. This is an increase of around 8% compared to 2009 (around 339,500 jobs), and well over twice the number of jobs in 2004 (160,500). About two-thirds of these jobs are attributed to the Renewable Energy Sources Act[13][14]
Germany's energy transition, the Energiewende, designates a significant change in energy policy from 2011. The term encompasses a reorientation of policy from demand to supply and a shift from centralized to distributed generation (for example, producing heat and power in very small cogeneration units), which should replace overproduction and avoidable energy consumption with energy-saving measures and increased efficiency.

Now... what's the other side?

Anyone can quote Wikipedia. Intelligent people, consider BOTH sides of the argument, to determine the truth.

The price, according to the EU, and Germany itself, has more than almost tripled since just 2000. While US prices have remained fairly stable, Germans have some of the most expensive electrical power in the world today.

Merkel's Switch to Renewables: Rising Energy Prices Endanger German Industry - SPIEGEL ONLINE

Last spring, Chancellor Angela Merkel set Germany on course to eliminate nuclear power in favor of renewable energy sources. Now, though, several industries are suffering as electricity prices rapidly rise. Many companies are having to close factories or move abroad.​

Shocking. Now companies that are electricity intensive, are closing up shop, and leaving the country, specifically because of the massive price hikes caused by wind mills and solar panels.

According to a recent survey by the DIHK, almost one in five industrial companies plans to shift capacities abroad -- or has already done so. The study also finds that almost 60 percent fear power outages or voltage fluctuations in the power grid, because wind and solar power are still too unreliable.
"The promotion of renewable energy has led to substantial displacement effects on employment in the conventional energy production sectors, as well as in downstream industries that are particularly energy-intensive,"​

DIHK is a German government body for industry.

So apparently this had been a massive negative. For the left which claims to be for American jobs, solar and wind energy is a great way to kill jobs, and move them over seas.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Fucktard LIAR!

Alt Energy is crashing like a collapsing building.. As the subsidies are withdrawn it will crumble just like it is in Europe.. Germany is now tearing down windmills and solar panels becuse they are worthless on a large scale.

Renewable energy in Germany

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Germany's renewable energy sector is among the most innovative and successful worldwide. Net-generation fromrenewable energy sources in the German electricity sector has increased from 6.3% in 2000 to about 30% in 2014.[1][2] For the first time ever, wind, biogas, and solar combined accounted for a larger portion of net electricity production than brown coal.[3] While peak-generation from combined wind and solar reached a new all-time high of 74% in April 2014,[4] wind power saw its best day ever on December 12, 2014, generating 562 GWh.[5] Germanyhas been called "the world's first major renewable energy economy".[6][7]
More than 23,000 wind turbines and 1.4 million solar PV systems are distributed all over the country's area of 357,000 square kilometers.[8][9] As of 2011, Germany's federal government is working on a new plan for increasingrenewable energy commercialization,[10] with a particular focus on offshore wind farms.[11] A major challenge is the development of sufficient network capacities for transmitting the power generated in the North Sea to the large industrial consumers in southern parts of the country.[12]
According to official figures, some 370,000 people were employed in the renewable energy sector in 2010, especially in small and medium-sized companies. This is an increase of around 8% compared to 2009 (around 339,500 jobs), and well over twice the number of jobs in 2004 (160,500). About two-thirds of these jobs are attributed to the Renewable Energy Sources Act[13][14]
Germany's energy transition, the Energiewende, designates a significant change in energy policy from 2011. The term encompasses a reorientation of policy from demand to supply and a shift from centralized to distributed generation (for example, producing heat and power in very small cogeneration units), which should replace overproduction and avoidable energy consumption with energy-saving measures and increased efficiency.

Now... what's the other side?

Anyone can quote Wikipedia. Intelligent people, consider BOTH sides of the argument, to determine the truth.

View attachment 60956

The price, according to the EU, and Germany itself, has more than almost tripled since just 2000. While US prices have remained fairly stable, Germans have some of the most expensive electrical power in the world today.

Merkel's Switch to Renewables: Rising Energy Prices Endanger German Industry - SPIEGEL ONLINE

Last spring, Chancellor Angela Merkel set Germany on course to eliminate nuclear power in favor of renewable energy sources. Now, though, several industries are suffering as electricity prices rapidly rise. Many companies are having to close factories or move abroad.​

Shocking. Now companies that are electricity intensive, are closing up shop, and leaving the country, specifically because of the massive price hikes caused by wind mills and solar panels.

According to a recent survey by the DIHK, almost one in five industrial companies plans to shift capacities abroad -- or has already done so. The study also finds that almost 60 percent fear power outages or voltage fluctuations in the power grid, because wind and solar power are still too unreliable.
"The promotion of renewable energy has led to substantial displacement effects on employment in the conventional energy production sectors, as well as in downstream industries that are particularly energy-intensive,"​

DIHK is a German government body for industry.

So apparently this had been a massive negative. For the left which claims to be for American jobs, solar and wind energy is a great way to kill jobs, and move them over seas.

Thank You.

I haven't had time to do that research. I do know that Merkel and her socialist party is in deep do do with the people. This is why they are now building 32 new coal fired plants and mothballing over 20% of the windmills that are now going bankrupt.

And to think morons like Crick and Old Crock want to do this to America..

 

[Old Rocks]

Link, Silly Billy?

 

[Old Rocks]

[FONT=Lucida Grande, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Wind roars on in Germany[/FONT]

German wind power production hit a new record level in 2014, though it only rose slightly – by around one percent to 52.4 TWh (press release in German). The bigger story is the new level of installations. The previous record of 3.2 GW was set way back in 2002, and the market has come in closer to 2.0 GW annually since then. But last year, closer to 3.4 GW was newly built – and repowering might bring the total up to 3.7 GW.
“Repowering” essentially means that new turbines replace old ones, which are dismantled. With roughly 25,000 wind turbines already built, Germany is looking to use the land taken up by old wind farms more efficiently. Wind turbines are designed to last for 20 years (though new ones may be able to run for 30), so the first ones from the early 90s are now coming up for replacement. The average turbine size is now several times larger than those built 20 years ago, so more generation capacity is added even as the total number of turbines is reduced on old wind farms.
Right, Silly Billy

 

[Andylusion]

[FONT=Lucida Grande, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Wind roars on in Germany[/FONT]

German wind power production hit a new record level in 2014, though it only rose slightly – by around one percent to 52.4 TWh (press release in German). The bigger story is the new level of installations. The previous record of 3.2 GW was set way back in 2002, and the market has come in closer to 2.0 GW annually since then. But last year, closer to 3.4 GW was newly built – and repowering might bring the total up to 3.7 GW.
“Repowering” essentially means that new turbines replace old ones, which are dismantled. With roughly 25,000 wind turbines already built, Germany is looking to use the land taken up by old wind farms more efficiently. Wind turbines are designed to last for 20 years (though new ones may be able to run for 30), so the first ones from the early 90s are now coming up for replacement. The average turbine size is now several times larger than those built 20 years ago, so more generation capacity is added even as the total number of turbines is reduced on old wind farms.
Right, Silly Billy

Now... what's the other side?

Anyone can quote Wikipedia. Intelligent people, consider BOTH sides of the argument, to determine the truth.

View attachment 60956

The price, according to the EU, and Germany itself, has more than almost tripled since just 2000. While US prices have remained fairly stable, Germans have some of the most expensive electrical power in the world today.

Merkel's Switch to Renewables: Rising Energy Prices Endanger German Industry - SPIEGEL ONLINE

Last spring, Chancellor Angela Merkel set Germany on course to eliminate nuclear power in favor of renewable energy sources. Now, though, several industries are suffering as electricity prices rapidly rise. Many companies are having to close factories or move abroad.​

Shocking. Now companies that are electricity intensive, are closing up shop, and leaving the country, specifically because of the massive price hikes caused by wind mills and solar panels.

According to a recent survey by the DIHK, almost one in five industrial companies plans to shift capacities abroad -- or has already done so. The study also finds that almost 60 percent fear power outages or voltage fluctuations in the power grid, because wind and solar power are still too unreliable.
"The promotion of renewable energy has led to substantial displacement effects on employment in the conventional energy production sectors, as well as in downstream industries that are particularly energy-intensive,"​

DIHK is a German government body for industry.

So apparently this had been a massive negative. For the left which claims to be for American jobs, solar and wind energy is a great way to kill jobs, and move them over seas.