Animal Rights, Yes or No

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    How would you vote on this measure?


    In a world in which animal rights are gaining ground, barbecue season should make me feel guilty. My hunch is that in a century or two, our descendants will look back on our factory farms with uncomprehending revulsion. But in the meantime, I love a good burger.

    This comes up because the most important election this November that you’ve never heard of is a referendum on animal rights in California, the vanguard state for social movements. Proposition 2 would ban factory farms from raising chickens, calves or hogs in small pens or cages.

    Livestock rights are already enshrined in the law in Florida, Arizona, Colorado and here in Oregon, but California’s referendum would go further and would be a major gain for the animal rights movement. And it’s part of a broader trend. Burger King announced last year that it would give preference to suppliers that treat animals better, and when a hamburger empire expostulates tenderly about the living conditions of cattle, you know public attitudes are changing.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/31/opinion/31kristof.html?th&emc=th
     
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    Put it to a vote from the animals... oh wait... THEY HAVE NO CONSCIOUS THOUGHT..

    Animals have no inherent 'rights'

    As a matter of fact... I would probably like to see the animal rights nazis raised in pens or cages and turned into soylent green or livestock feed
     
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    Fair enough
     
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    Animal rights, just like human rights, are whatever WE say they are. The only difference being that a herd of animals denied rights is far less likely to misbehave than a herd of people.
     
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    From the same op-ed:


     
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    It is our responsibility to treat animals as kindly as is possible, within the confines of what their purpose is. They have NO rights, hell people barely have rights.
     
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    Yes!
     
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    Yep. I look forward to the day when they grow meat in the lab. It shouldn't be too much longer.
     
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    Nah... I want the real thing
     
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    Supposedly it will be the real thing. Cloned steaks, kind of...
     

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